Ever met someone in the astral who committed suicide?

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Xanth

Quote from: Fresco on April 13, 2010, 10:16:13
@ Xanth

I have yet to project myself, but what you wrote sounds about right.
The only exception I have for suicide is if someone is terminally ill or very old and they're about to die anyways.
I fully agree.
The good difference here is that the individual is "ready" to die and has made the appropriate choice.
In this case, as long as they have some kind of belief in what happens afterwards they won't be "shocked" by what they find... be it "heaven" or "hell" or any other number of belief systems.

QuoteThats doing it for the right reasons IMO.  But not if you're young and because of depression or other mental issues
In the wider reality, you'll most likely (obviously, in my opinion) be coming back again to get it right and learn what you wanted to learn.  So you might as well do it now otherwise you'll have to go through 'growing up' all over again.  :)

I think that probably answers Mon's question to an extent too.

Fresco

Quote from: Xanth on April 13, 2010, 10:37:01
In the wider reality, you'll most likely (obviously, in my opinion) be coming back again to get it right and learn what you wanted to learn.  So you might as well do it now otherwise you'll have to go through 'growing up' all over again.  :)
You're talking about re-incarnation, right??

zareste

Quote from: mon9999 on April 13, 2010, 10:17:33Is the old tale about suicide victims having to come back with the same learning lessons true? No ... and I don't know who made that up. It must go with the theory that we all have contracts to come into the lives we wind up
Not everyone, no. Some people have contracts, some were fooled into incarnating, some are outright slaves, and some (albeit a small number) incarnated out of their own free will. I've studied this a while and realized there are no universal rules of incarnation.

Funny side note: There are tribes in the Mid-East and Africa that have closed incarnation cycles. In other words they die and come right back into the tribe, keeping outsiders away - so on occasion a person becomes their own grand-child

Xanth


Tiny

QuoteNot everyone, no. Some people have contracts, some were fooled into incarnating, some are outright slaves, and some (albeit a small number) incarnated out of their own free will. I've studied this a while and realized there are no universal rules of incarnation.

And this is also the reason some people have a natural death wish and some like to be close to death such as climbing the mountains unprotected and then jumping into the waters hundred feet below.

But most people won't accept it for they cling to their hopes that somehow, some way...life MUST have a positive purpose and spiritual gain for the individual in the end. It's so sad, these people might just end up shattered eventually when they are forced to see how things really are.

Nice to see someone, who is tired of the lala-land lies aswell, speaking the facts afterall.


kind regards,

Paul
"He never speaks but he understands thinks higher than a manHes living in The northern lights In winter everlasting He travels around Big drum in his hand And he knows what you have in your mind Theres always wolf within That leads him down And back home"

mon9999

Quote from: Eyyoshi on April 10, 2010, 18:51:06
I know that projecting won't fix my problems, but it will make me happier. I would then have a place to go and relax/have fun for a change. Considering how boring and dull it is around here. It won't fix issues like finding a job, but it's beneficial. 


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