Exit from waking method?

[Plasma]

What is this method? the idea of someone waking up from sleep to project? what are you supposed to do to make this work? please tell me why this could work also thx.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
This method is the most promising for any beginner by far. You need to read up on this as your question is well known generally.
Look at the FAQ section on this site for starters.
Happy learning.

[Plasma]

Hi,
This method is the most promising for any beginner by far. You need to read up on this as your question is well known generally.
Look at the FAQ section on this site for starters.
Happy learning.

Well thanks but that method is not discussed in the FAQ part.

[Lionheart]

 Hello, this entire section of the forum here is based on all different techniques to help you achieve your goal. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness-b30.0/. This video will help you as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK3Og_nqgNg
Good Luck and Safe Travels! 

[Szaxx]

Hi,
There's an e-book covering this called the school of out of body travel, (SOBT.PDF) its free and on the OBE4U.COM website. The outer cover on my copy has A Practical Guidebook on
Its a good read.

[Plasma]

Well thankyou for all the links but they still are not pointing me to anything specifically about this technique. Is there anyone out there who is currently attempting to OBE with this who can discuss it with me? this was what I was hoping for originally.

[catmeow]

The technique is called "wake back to bed" . It really is very effective. Just google that expression or "WBTB". Here is the first link my google search returned:

http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/wake-back-to-bed.html

The language is that of lucid dreaming, but astral projection and lucid dreaming are closely related. Hope this helps!

[CFTraveler]

What is this method? the idea of someone waking up from sleep to project? what are you supposed to do to make this work? please tell me why this could work also thx.

Basically, most methods teach you to stay awake, induce trance and then project when you're in a deep state of trance.  This method does away with the trance training, because you were asleep, and thus are easier to trance.
So you wake up, get up, go back to bed, and then induce trance, and do the same thing you would do with another method to induce an exit.

[djed]

Hi Plasma. When I have had a good night's sleep and wake, I just lie there and drift off to 'semi-sleep' and wait for vibrations, that is the time when I find it easier to go oob. For me it is usually into the etheric, then from there I can go astral.
Cheers, djed 

[Volgerle]

As many mention it here, I feel the need to state that I don't think that "inducing trance by WTBT" is the answer to what Plasma asks for. Honestly, sorry, but I think this answer is almost plain wrong. It thoroughly misses the point. There is still a difference between 'projecting from sleep' to what you describe as WBTB.

Yes, of course, you can use WBTB to be in a 'drowsy' state for inducing trance from this state, but this already does not coincide with what Plama refers to, because then inducing trance is still making use of the 'direct method' where still you 'come from above' (the waking state) and just induce trance from there. It's not the 'core' indirect method. The indirect method would then be to 'fall asleep like normal' again.

This "indirect" method is explained, for example, extensively by W. Buhlmann in his first book. Robert Bruce, for example, does not teach it as he only explains direct methods, iirc. Another very recent post of an 'indirect strategy' is to be found on this forum here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/lding_for_idiots_sensations_initiated_lucid_dream_sild-t36757.0.html

This SSILD method also makes use of WBTB in a way, as you do it after a period of sleep - and still it is different. The author even says that it is not the same, but can be combined with WBTB. Still, it is neither a WILD (which is a direct method) nor a WBTB (which is a strategy only to be used in a direct or indirect method).

So what is the "indirect" method? The indirect method is indeed preparing yourself before sleep, e.g. by energy techniques, visualisations, affirmations, tactile practice, even by help of substances, or crystals - or combinations of all of this and more.

Then what you essentially do is that you 'come from below', which means from deep-sleep or dream/rem sleep, rather than from above ('direct trance induction'). When you are about to emerge on the surface of waking/physical reality you suddenly become 'aware' and 'make a halt' before the final exit to wakefulness.

This 'awareness' of 'being in a state of waking up' can be trained to some degree. Hence you learn to 'project out of sleep' on waking up, so to speak. Please bear in mind that this is still different from turning a dream into a lucid dream / projection.

Obviously, the great disadvantage of it is of course the lack of control, as success is often almost by chance only. On the other hand, it is a valuable and highly recommendable tool for beginners and as said above, it can be trained to a certain degree. Many beginners waste ages trying to master direct induction techniques. Many give up without any success ever, although they might have had success with the indirect method. This is unfortunate. Maybe some of them also think it is somehthing not worth striving at for it being such a 'passive, uncontrolled' method (... the usual machismo element probably?  )

However, it might be and remain the only method available to people who are unable to induce direct trance (with or without WBTB) for various reasons. One reason, e.g., might be that some have physical relaxation problems due to illnesses or any strange ailments keeping you from meditation and relaxaint. They are only relaxed 'enough' when in deep sleep. That is why this method is so highly precious, it opens up the possibilty for these people.

(And yes, you might have guessed it. I am one of these people. I just cannot relax enough due to severe bodily problems. I am only 'tranced' when I have finally fallen aslepp. That's why I MUSt come from the other side - from below - in order to reach the vibrational / exit / lucid state. I wish it were different, but I need to accept that it still seems impossible for me otherwise, so I am happy to have the indirect method available!!).

[catmeow]

Yes, of course, you can use WBTB to be in a 'drowsy' state for inducing trance from this state, but this already does not coincide with what Plama refers to,

To be absolutely honest, it is unclear what technique Plasma is asking about. You could be correct, or he could be talking about WBTB, or any other technique. The title of his post is "Exit from waking method" which implies a normal simple wake induced projection. So we could both be wrong!

[Volgerle]

What is this method? the idea of someone waking up from sleep to project? what are you supposed to do to make this work? please tell me why this could work also thx.

You're right catmeow, I see from the thread title it is indeed unclear, I just got so hooked on the 'waking up from sleep to project' bit in the text. 
Yeah, so maybe Plasma could clarify this as to what kind of method he meant at all.

[catmeow]

Hey Volgerle, I got hooked too! I just assumed he was talking about WBTB. Seems our preconceptions got the better of us! Maybe Plasma could clarify as you said.

[Xanth]

There's another method which fits the bill here too...

I call it the "Eyes Closed/Body Still" technique.  There are other names for it as well... I believe it's a DEILD (Dream Exit Initated Lucid Dream).
I discovered this on my own before I read about the DEILD and named it accordingly to what is required for the technique to be successful.

Basically, what you do is program yourself so you notice that you're waking up AS you're waking up.  While in this waking up process, you keep your eyes closed and your body perfectly still (hence the name I gave the technique).  Once you've successfully woken up and kept your eyes closed and body still... this is the easy part now... you just lie there and WAIT!  You don't need to focus or anything... at this point your mind is already in the PERFECT state to project.

After 5 - 15 seconds of waiting, you should feel a shift in your awareness and you'll find yourself back "there".  You're now projecting!  Enjoy.

You can use this technique to extend your experiences as well... you'll gain enough experience eventually to realize when you're about to wake up.  What you do then is just engage this technique as you're waking up, and you can then immediately jump back into the experience you previously left!  I've used this technique to jump back in upwards of 6 times in a row.