Experienced AP'ers wanted for help

[The AlphaOmega]

First thing is first:  THIS IS A LONG POST, SORRY...
I have heard that it is possible to lend a hand to someone attempting a projection, while you are doing it yourself.  I however am certainly not at that stage yet.  You say you have been trying for 3-4 months and now you sound frustrated.  When I first learned how to project I was 17 years old.  I am 21 now, and it wasn't until this year that I actually discovered how it was done.  Once it happened I discovered what the last lesson I had to learn before my accomplishment was... patience.  When you want something to happen so bad, you ruin it by trying too hard.  If you want to project you have to LET yourself project.  You may think you are ready, but maybe you have more to consider.  For instance, how will you react when you finally FEEL the vibrations.  You've read about them I'm sure, so you know what to expect.  But when they come, will you get so excited you finally felt them, that you will lose your focus?  Probably, so that's another step you must get past.  Then finally you will learn how to focus on projecting once the vibrations come.  Once that happens you will be out, but then what will you do?  Float around for a few seconds before you end up back in your body?  There are many steps that must be done to be enlightenend.  It doesn't end once you finally succeed in leaving your body.  On the contrary, it is just the beginning.  Therefor perhaps for your first OBE to be beneficial, you must first learn how to have the patience to control it.  Untill then, try and try and try and try.  After enough trying, you will succeed.  But you don't know how much trying it takes, UNTILL you succeed.

[Opiate]

Ok i know ive heard this many times over.. "Once you achieve the OBE, go back into your body straight away" i know i cant quote anyone saying that exactly, but thats the general gist.

But seriously, who here has the self discipline to simply go back into their body after achieving an OBE, after working on it for so long? Get real, id rather just float off and enjoy it.

[Huwie]

No way, dude.  When I finally achieve it, I'm gonna take one quick look around the room then dive right back in.  For the time being, that will be plenty. []

[Michael_E]

quote:Originally posted by nthjbam

I've been really practicing at trying to project for about 3 or 4 months now.  And I've gotten very close on a nnumber of occasions, I've projected after falling asleep and woken up in the astral briefly, but I always seem to pop back into my body very quickly.  What I am asking is, if there is anyone here who is adept at projecting who could possibly help me get out.  Literally coming to me while I'm trying to project and lending me a hand to pull me out.  I don't know if this is possible.  I've been halfway out many times, a little encouragement would work wonders.  I can surely set up some sort of a white light beacon high in the sky over my house.  Is anyone up to the challenge?  Thanks.

Be well,
J

hey nthjbam,

your guide can help you with sort of thing, instead of waitin around for someone to come around and pull you out your guide can help pull you out. Say something like, "guide, i would like very much for you to help me project by pulling me out. can you do this please."  he/she/it may or may not depending on how much good he/she/it may think it would do you. dont get dissapointed if it doesnt automattically happen in the same night you ask, the guide may be waiting for the conditions to be right to do such a thing. so, keep up efforts on your part and asking, the universe has ears!![]

[holy reality]

i don't think we all have guides... i think sometimes you might have to find or create one

i mean, i have asked for help from guides, and higher beings, so many times.. and weird stuff happens, and they are never very helpful and sometimes well, i think negative beings, though i'm guessing probably just creations of my mind.

i created my own guide the other day, more as to just help me fend off all the negatives that keep hassling me, be they real or not, but today i kept calling him and he wouldn't come

i tried to rebuild him and i couldn't for the life of me do it, yet it was so easy the first time.

i don't think guides/guardians exist as of now :/ I'd like them to prove me wrong though... especially MY danged guardian, where is he off at ? Did he deconstruct? Maybe I didn't give him enough energy....

all I know is the night I created him he was with me almost constantly and we did a lot of cool things and he would pull me out of my body and back into whatever dreams it was i wanted to re enter when I asked him to.

i suppose it's possible i deconstructed him and don't remember it though.. since i was thinking about how you're supposed to give them self destruct dates so they dont' go wandering around causing trouble, but i specifically directed him to only follow my commands and not hurt people unless i said otherwise...

one thing that does work though is if you had just had a dream about someone you know and you ended up halfway awake into a trance, you can ask them to pull you out and they almost always do... at least for me they have, but you'll go back into the dream, not OBE.

[beavis]

nthjbam What I am asking is, if there is anyone here who is adept at projecting who could possibly help me get out. Literally coming to me while I'm trying to project and lending me a hand to pull me out. I don't know if this is possible.

It is possible. Tayesin did it for me a few times.

[nthjbam]

ok cool,

thanks for the input.  As far as being pateint, learning skillz etc.  Yes all of this I understand.  I've gotten serious vibrations, like being jostled, or on top of an old dryer.  Like bumping around sensations, not energy vibes, like a chill or a shiver, which I have gotten also, but this is far more physical.  I usually get to a point and either I can't take my mind down to a sedate enough level to allow myself to project, or I pass out and then wake up an hour later with my body still passed out or midly buzzing, but my mind is sharp. crisp and no where near trance.  I have asked my guide and gotten limited success with that.  I've heard all kinds of very strange thins when I am meditating, maybe all from myself but relating to projection.  The truth is I am impatient and I want to project, NOW.  But try try again and again and again so on and on.  Hey Beavis, do you have Tayesins contact info?  Or maybe you could help me?  Thanks.

Be well,
J

[kutabare]

hey nthjbam, if you would like to I'd pull you out if possible...just email me or IM me or something while im here or to get get me here.

[nthjbam]

I've been really practicing at trying to project for about 3 or 4 months now.  And I've gotten very close on a nnumber of occasions, I've projected after falling asleep and woken up in the astral briefly, but I always seem to pop back into my body very quickly.  What I am asking is, if there is anyone here who is adept at projecting who could possibly help me get out.  Literally coming to me while I'm trying to project and lending me a hand to pull me out.  I don't know if this is possible.  I've been halfway out many times, a little encouragement would work wonders.  I can surely set up some sort of a white light beacon high in the sky over my house.  Is anyone up to the challenge?  Thanks.

Be well,
J