Experienced projectors, please step inside!

[jub jub]

For all you experienced projectors out there, I would like to see what methods you use to induce an OBE. I'm particularly interested in the folks that can induce at will. What exactly do you do...step-by-step.

Please and thank you in advance. 

[Nay]

LOL!  Someone needs to use the search feature.  Isn't this what the whole forum is about and what we've been talking about for years?     This question comes up at least three times a month or more and I believe has been answered by many. 

[Zante]

I believe you have the wrong idea about this anyway. To be able to do it at will is an incredible thing. For many of us they happen spontaneously and, using the information acquired here, we try to make the most of them. Conscious exits are uncommon but we don't try to get hung up over it as to do so would create a lot of resentment. At least that's how it is with me.

Though I would be interested in what it is some other people have to say. : )#

Edit: Intent seems to play a big part for me, followed simply by allowing the process to unfold itself.

[jub jub]

LOL!  Someone needs to use the search feature.  Isn't this what the whole forum is about and what we've been talking about for years?     This question comes up at least three times a month or more and I believe has been answered by many. 

You're right. I get lazy sometimes. Sorry.

[jub jub]

Edit: Intent seems to play a big part for me, followed simply by allowing the process to unfold itself.

I've been trying the intent thing but I'm not having much success. Actually, I've been trying just about every technique that I've read about without much success.

With me, it's spontaneous or nothing it seems. I'm not complaining mind you, just vocalizing! 

[kiwibonga]

jub jub, I was wondering: what kind of exercises do you do? What's your usual "OBE practice plan?"

I personally can't project at will yet, but I have a fail-safe plan that usually pans out over 2-3 days and invariably causes partial spontaneous exits during the night. I do a mix of trance meditation and the alarm clock method from the permanent astral topics.

I think the one thing that is helping me the most is to wake up every hour and force myself to write down my dreams... The more I do it, the clearer everything is, and it's increasing the amount of sleep paralysis (partial projection) episodes I get dramatically (I haven't managed to separate fully in 2 months, though... Stress = physical superglue! I also think I may have an energy issue, need to get serious with energy work.).

[Job]

There are a lot of reasons why people don't have continuous 'conscious' astral projection experiences. One such reason is that subconscious activity interferes with the natural sense-awareness.

There are practicioners in the world who meditate for pretty good periods of time to momentarily 'transcend' the subconscious. This is what people call a state of absolute awareness (without mental influence)--I don't say Zen because that term is now used more loosely...

Of course, what is percieved as mental influence is simply the resistance to free-flowing thought. In such a state thinking becomes automatic (it's not neccessary to concentrate to think).

Subconscious interference is the first part to get past. After that, when and if the body falls asleep what people call "astral projection" naturally occurs--the astral double's nightly routine of separating from the physical body.

Another reason why people 'seemingingly' don't have conscious astral experiences is the level of sense-awareness on return. Subconscious activity also comes in to play in the situation of return. With enough awareness it's possible to remember just like remembering anything else in daily life. With a lot of subconscious interference there is less awareness. Also, the subconscious interferes with the memory.

The living being, beyond the subconscious is conscious and is like a genie with extraordinary powers. The subconscious is the lamp. When the lamp is broken the genie can perform wonders. When the lamp is still there (in a schizophrenic sort of way) the lamp toys around with the genies desire. It pretends to offer the genie power--to make him a God (as did the serpent in the bible if you know that story). On the other hand, all those powers the lamp-serpent displays are really the genie's, but the genie doesn't know that...So the genie eats tuna sandwiches, when really there is the latent possibility of dining fine.

That has more to do with en-lightenment though (the accumulation of the light of the spirit--essence particles from which consciousness emanates).

Astral projecting is a different thing (that simply requires momentarily getting free of the subconscious, not lastingly 'extracting' essences).

There are methods that I've seen taught by at least 4 to 7 different awakened masters of this current age (in the past 50 years) that teach the freeing up of essences from the subconscious. With that--enlightenment--astral projection should apparently come naturally.

[Job]

A simple thing to do, to momentarily get past the subconscious interference, is by saying a mantra (it's not bound to work all the time--with routine and enough practice it will though).

On the other hand, the experiences will still likely be short. That's where working to be more aware through the senses in the day kicks in (that helps to get past the interferences).

There is no quick way, though, if that's what's being sought after...

Practice, practice, practice is all that can be said 

A mantra might help to get past the subconscious creations. What are seen in the transition phase of astral projection as images and sounds are the actual dream occurrences that take place in the astral plane--the reason why most people have vague or semi-real astral experiences. The astral can appear far more substantial with the removal of dreams.

With a mantra it is possible to fall asleep consciously. An estimate of how long it might take to do a mantra is around an hour. Also, mantras can have the effect of causing lucid dreams.

Mantra FARAON

Pronunciation:

FA (as in Far)

RA (as in Far); the R is trilled like a motor.

ON (as in Stone)

Each phrase of the mantra is said prolonged:

1. First, lay in a comfortable position, or sit in a comfortable posture or chair.

2. Inhale slowly and deeply. Then, slowly exhale saying FAAAAAAA

3. Inhale again, and again slowly exhale saying RRRAAAAAAA

4. Once more inhale, saying OOOOONNN upon exhalation.

5. The mantra is said on and on repeatedly.

Inhale...
FAAAAAAAAA(exhale)
Inhale...
RRRAAAAAAAA(exhale)
Inhale...
OOOOOOONNN(exhale)
Inhale...
FAAAAAAAAA(exhale)
Inhale...
RRRAAAAAAAA(exhale)
Inhale...
OOOOOOONNN(exhale)
Inhale...
FAAAAAAAAA(exhale)
Inhale...
RRRAAAAAAAA(exhale)
Inhale...
OOOOOOONNN(exhale)

I used to say a mantra for as long as I could just before going to bed. It had great results as far as maintaining my attention as I fell asleep.

(PM this username to get a sound file of the mantra)

[Stookie]

For me it's not just AP, but all the learning, concentration, diligence, determination, & energy that comes from a "spiritual" practice. I may not AP on a daily basis, but daily practice and meditation becomes an inner experience that effects the rest of my life, perception, & reality. It's not just AP, but a way to live.

I think that what I'm getting at is, there is growth even without a projection that will prepare a person for later (& better) experiences. Don't give up, & keep trying because it still changes you.

[jub jub]

jub jub, I was wondering: what kind of exercises do you do? What's your usual "OBE practice plan?"

On average I meditate about three days a week before going to bed. My OBE practice plan is to wake several times during the night and try to use the phasing method, which I might add, I had success with last night!

Sometimes, just talking about it on the forums seems to stimulate activity. I know for me it does anyway.

Job, thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm working on keeping the mental monkey chatter down to a minimum. It is proving to be very difficult though, the brain seems to have a mind of it's own.  I'll give the mantra thing a try tonight and we'll see what happens.

For me it's not just AP, but all the learning, concentration, diligence, determination, & energy that comes from a "spiritual" practice. I may not AP on a daily basis, but daily practice and meditation becomes an inner experience that effects the rest of my life, perception, & reality. It's not just AP, but a way to live.

I think that what I'm getting at is, there is growth even without a projection that will prepare a person for later (& better) experiences. Don't give up, & keep trying because it still changes you

Good point Stookie. I'm with you on this BTW. Since I've started my spiritual journey, I've learned a lot and I'm always looking to learn more. I want to find true spiritual enlightenment, as much as possible and still be able to function in the real world.

[Synergy]

For me, I use sleep paralysis as the most common method.  I have been blessed (or cursed depending on how you look at it) with periodic bouts of spontaneous sleep paralysis (not related to narcolepsy btw) and I have learned how to use it to my advantage. 

I have also used the method where you get completely relaxed to the point of losing feeling of the bed etc... and then maintain consciousness up to the exact point where sleep takes over and then plant a suggestion like 'I will have an OBE now'  - I call it sleep onset suggestion method. Though it takes a bit of pracice to recognize when sleep takes over (without actually falling asleep in the process)

Most of my OBEs have been spontaneous though.

[jub jub]

Most of my OBEs have been spontaneous though.

Same here, although since started this post, I have actually induced an OBE early in the AM by using the phasing method.

The false awakenings are very strange. Whenever I experience one, I hear voices and the setting seems to be rather spooky. I also feel very drained that day.

[Job]

Have you tried a conjuration of Solomon the sage? Some esoteric schools teach them for protection against negative entities in the astral. They work very well.

One of them is called the conjuration of Jupiter.
Another is the conjuration of the Tetragrammaton.

I've never tried the second one myself, but I trust that it probably works for two reasons:

1. Both have been used by a now (it would seem enlightened, not just awakened) master named Samael Aun Weor.
2. Solomon had some pretty powerful protection.