Feeling as if Constrained... Wrapped in Something

[jc84corvette]

You can not get your AP body out.

[Nagual]

Once I did have the membrane thing; but I was already out and in the process of entering a new scenary/place (travelling) out of the void...  As usual with me, I just ripped through it and broke free...

[sweet_celestial_sounds]

Very interesting Nagual. [] Thank you for sharing...

So it seemed to be something actually wrapped around you, an actual membrane or something?

[Mustardseed]

Sounds like a partial sleep paralysis. Could it be neg inspired. ? RB talks about this in his book. Sounds akin to the "pinned down" feeling some get. I had it once with a Guardian of the threshold.
Regards MS

[Nagual]

If I remember correctly, I was in the void and I decided to try to go to some nice desert island...  So, I focused on this and I began to kind of emerge to the scene but I bumped into this sort of membrane thing.  Just imagine a thick plastic wrap (like in cooking) floating on the surface of water, and you emerge and bump into it.  The membrane had an "organic" feeling/aspect to it...  Maybe I watched alien too much! []  When I broke throught it, I just found myself landing on a @#$%ing crowded beach in a huge city... [xx(][|)]  Then, I just started to tell everybody that it was a dream... and woke up 20 seconds after.

BTW, it's not the first time I got the water feeling.  In fact my second LD was watery...  I was having fun with a girl in the back of the classroom when I realized that, when I was touching her with my hands, I was feeling my real hands on my real leg at the same time.  Immediatly I became lucid and started to float automaticaly.  Then, I found myself falling in the sky with some awsome sunset colors and with a very nice music like in "Out of Africa"...  Then, it became black and denser and denser.  I began to feel a little scared but I told myself that I don't need to breath anyway.  Then, I began to see a point of light.  It got bigger and bigger.  Then, it was like I was seeing a room through a window.  Then, I emerged from this "window" but it was the ceiling of the room. so I had to rotate 180 degrees to land softly on the floor.  It was a living room.  There was a nice fire and some guitar song playing in the background. I walked to the kitchen/dinner room and saw 2 twin cats.  I love cats.  I did pet/pat? them for a while and went to the door.  I wanted to find some human beings...  But I woke up 2 seconds after opening the door.

[sweet_celestial_sounds]

Hey Mustardseed...

Partial sleep paralysis sounds like a good deduction. It seems you can get more and more free by relaxing more and more. I doubt that it's neg inspired. I haven't had any problems with negs since I was like 7 years old and whipped this being that used to chase me around the astral at night. The big deal with negs is self-perpetuated, as per my experience. They're no big deal.

Hello again Nagual...

You seem to be talking about something different- a structure of the nonphysical environment itself rather than a sheath or cloack around the nonphysical self. Interesting just the same. []

William Buhlman talks about membranes in his first book.

I'll look into the 'break it open' approach should I experience this 'cocoon' phenomenon more.

Take care.

[sweet_celestial_sounds]

This is an experience of mine from earlier this year, taken directly from my journals...

Cezyl's Experience from Journal
Saturday-Sunday, March 29-30, 2003
"...I lay back down and continued the relaxation, relaxing even deeper than deep. I had some vague imagery I think, and then the separation started. I was in DEEP relaxation- the kind that feels like you are about to let your body fall out of the chair as you do it. ("you" here referring to my good friend Zarklon). I became paralyzed. I tried to move but was restrained by what seemed like some force surrounding me like a tightly wrapped cocoon. I could wiggle and move around just a little, but this 'cocoon' as it seemed was in perfect conformity to my body, and I could only move as much as it gave... which was only a little."

Here is an experience of my friend Zarklon, directly from his account:

Zarklon's Experience
12 October 2003
"After I feel the paralysis surge mentioned above , I try to move slowly and it feels like I'm wrapped up in plastic wrap and I'm trying to stretch it more and more in slow motion....."

This to me is deep. That is the first time I have come upon such an experience- when I first started having experiences directly from paralysis and felt this cocoon like field around me. Then I read my friend's experience and he experiences the same thing- only the second person I have learned to have experienced this....

Anyone else heard of or experience this? Seems like a very prominent facet of projection. It tickles me pink, this little correlation. []