Finally had a lucid dream!

[Gbob]

So I followed the alarm clock method: woke up at 7am, stayed up around half an hour, fell back asleep and became lucid. It all happened quite accidentally but here is my brief account...

So I was in my room, meditating, with a few other people on my bed (strange I know) when this woman/teacher came out of nowhere accusing me of stealing something of hers. I said that I didn't steal anything of hers but she didn't believe me and she went to check my pulse to see if I was lying. It was at this instance that I suddenly thought that this wasn't reality and I even said out loud 'I'm dreaming!'. I then turned away from the dream characters whilst they quickly disappeared in the background and I immediately tried to induce an OBE. I sat there, closed my eyes and focused my mind: suddenly this brilliant white light surrounded my vision followed by a really loud hurricane noise. I felt as if I was sinking slightly but then 'woke up' back in my bed. My vision was slightly lopsided now and whilst getting up I found it quite difficult to move. I could see that there were a few anomalies in my room and at one point I noticed that I'd even lost an arm! I then tried to walk through the walls to test if I was dreaming but I couldn't so  I resorted to opening the door with my hands. I staggered uptairs and realized that I wasn't wearing any clothes. At this point I wasn't sure if I was still dreaming so I pinched myself but nothing happened. Thus I concluded that it was reality. Shortly afterwards I actually woke up.   

Was I near havin an OBE? What was this white light and hurricane noise? Does anyone have any ideas why my vision was a bit skewed? Oh and for future reference how do I astral project from a lucid dream?

Thanks a lot!

[jub jub]

Was I near havin an OBE? What was this white light and hurricane noise? Does anyone have any ideas why my vision was a bit skewed? Oh and for future reference how do I astral project from a lucid dream?

Thanks a lot!

Sounds to me like you had an OBE! Congratulations! You're vision being skewed and things being out of place is quite common. I don't know why it occurs. Maybe due to low energy. I often hear a roaring sound if I project while coming out of sleep. I'm not sure what causes it but I would guess it's part of the transition process.

Now that you know what it feels like it will be easier next time when you start to feel the symptoms.

[Zino]

To OBE while in a dream, you just have to imagine yourself being yanked really hard and imagine yourself in your bed falling out of it again or...If your up against a wall or something solid, feel the feeling of being pulled through it and you'll just pop out, your eyes will open and you'll think to yourself "Am I sleepwalking?"

[Gbob]

Sounds to me like you had an OBE! Congratulations! You're vision being skewed and things being out of place is quite common. I don't know why it occurs. Maybe due to low energy. I often hear a roaring sound if I project while coming out of sleep. I'm not sure what causes it but I would guess it's part of the transition process.

Now that you know what it feels like it will be easier next time when you start to feel the symptoms.

Hmm so do OBE's feel like lucid dreams then? I couldn't even pass through the door, I had to open it...I thought in AP's you can walk through things...

Also I felt like I wasn't wearing any clothes when I was upstairs...do we wear clothes in the astral? Though at one point a big part of my arm was missing and from the corner of my eye it did not like a normal arm...kind of blue/white I think (really not sure). Plus I didn't see my body laying anywhere, but then again I didn't turn round to try and find it :S

[jub jub]

I've only experienced two types of OBE, the ethereal or Real Time Zone and the Lucid Dream. What differentiates the two is the perception of your surroundings. The RTZ seems to be more closely linked to the physical hear and now where the LD seems to be of a higher plane. Colors in an LD are usually very bright and everything seems to emit it's own light instead of being cast from an external source such as the sun. A RTZ OBE however, takes on different appearance, almost as though we were in the physical but actually outside the body. It's usually dark or dimly lit and things can be misplaced but are usually recognizable. Floating and going through walls is possible but not always. Depends on your energy level. If it's low you will tend to get stuck or feel like you hit a brick wall.

I hope my explanation helps but, to tell the truth, you really need to experience first hand both types of OBE to know what I'm talking about. Perhaps someone can explain it better.

[EscapeVelocity]

Gbob,
What a success! You did it! You did the WakeBackToBed method(WBTB), found the right timing and launched into a Lucid Dream, which you recognised and then converted into an 'etheric' or RTZ OBE, complete with all the attendant 'reality fluctuations'; that is, in my opinion. Way to go!

The dream characters disappearing was a good indication that they indeed, were dream characters; the bright light and hurricane noise, IMO were indicative of a transition from LD to a more conscious, 'etheric' OBE. Once there, you recognised certain incongruities consistant with etheric or RTZ OBEs: the room wasn't exact, your vision somehow different, your arm strangely missing (I have no idea why), you bumped into things...and you're running around naked ( I do that all the time  ).

Your failure to immediately walk through walls likely has more to do with limiting beliefs and maybe, by that time, you were starting to run out of focus/energy...like jub jub suggested. Even once you finally do it, it still isn't easy, or automatic or without its limitations.

Great first OBE! Work on energy raising and maintaining focus. Reflect on recognising the difference between the LD and the RTZ. Spectacular! EV

[Gbob]

Gbob,
What a success! You did it! You did the WakeBackToBed method(WBTB), found the right timing and launched into a Lucid Dream, which you recognised and then converted into an 'etheric' or RTZ OBE, complete with all the attendant 'reality fluctuations'; that is, in my opinion. Way to go!

The dream characters disappearing was a good indication that they indeed, were dream characters; the bright light and hurricane noise, IMO were indicative of a transition from LD to a more conscious, 'etheric' OBE. Once there, you recognised certain incongruities consistant with etheric or RTZ OBEs: the room wasn't exact, your vision somehow different, your arm strangely missing (I have no idea why), you bumped into things...and you're running around naked ( I do that all the time  ).

Your failure to immediately walk through walls likely has more to do with limiting beliefs and maybe, by that time, you were starting to run out of focus/energy...like jub jub suggested. Even once you finally do it, it still isn't easy, or automatic or without its limitations.

Great first OBE! Work on energy raising and maintaining focus. Reflect on recognising the difference between the LD and the RTZ. Spectacular! EV

Thank you Jub Jub, Zino and EV for your input!

Even though I did the WBTB method successfully I still feel that there was a lot of luck involved lol. So I'm going to keep practicing and hopefully make this more of a regular occurence.

I do too think that why I couldn't walk through walls was because by that time I was losing focus: it was becoming less clear whether I was 'dreaming' or not.

My questions is, how do we make lucid dreams more frequent? Do meditation and energy work increase the chances of an LD? It just seems to me that it's sort of luck whether you're able to recognize if you're dreaming or not...

But yeah woo lucid dream! One step closer to an AP! I couldn't be bothered to practice AP consciously so I resorted to practicing AP from an LD

[CFTraveler]

My questions is, how do we make lucid dreams more frequent? Do meditation and energy work increase the chances of an LD? It just seems to me that it's sort of luck whether you're able to recognize if you're dreaming or not...

It has a lot to do with the intent to make the unconscious conscious.  That's why I like to add affirmations "I remember my projections" and "I realize I'm unconscious" or "I am conscious" to all other LD techniques- it 'reminds' your subconscious that it's what you want to do even when you 'let go'.
That and reality checks, but enough has been written about those, IMO.

[T.L.]

"Was I near havin an OBE? What was this white light and hurricane noise? Does anyone have any ideas why my vision was a bit skewed? Oh and for future reference how do I astral project from a lucid dream?"

   Some people hear a rush and there are a lot of things it could be, even just your blood pumping. When in the state necessary for projection you do hear internal noises loudly and clearly. Id prefer to hear a rush rather than the high pitched whines I hear upon exit.  Lucid dreams and projections share a lot of commonalities that can really confuse people to whether they are having one or the other, and for the most part lucid dreams are projections but in my experience what  you see is your own creations rather than what is really there, where ever there is. I have noticed a lot of differences. In lucid dreams I have absolute pristine control over absolutely everything I can create dream characters, I can do away with them.

  I can make objects...etc. I can also do away with them. I can even replace the entire dreamscape with another just by intending on it. In lucid dreams I have absolute control over flight...etc. In projections there are some things I can not manipulate so well, such as flight, I can't just do away with people. Sometimes my vision is lacking and things can seem dim in some projections, and lucid dreams are so perfectly clear and crisp all the time. You'd have to spend a great deal of time in both kinds of altered states to notice. But never the less lucid dreams are projections just of a different variety, and in mine I am in a location completely fabricated by my subconscious. As far as projecting from a lucid dream all that you really have to do is intend on dismantling the dream scape. Tell yourself you want your dream environment to fade, with luck you'll perceive what is really there. If not what you will notice is 3d blackness and in this case you are in your body and all the work is already done, all you will need to do is just intend to get out of your body, will yourself up and out.

  There is one more possibility and it is that as you fade the lucid dream environment out, your consciousness will fade with it. So be sure as you are fading the environment away that you work your conscious mind to avoid losing consciousness as your dream fades. As far as why you may be in your body when your lucid dream fades instead of always already being out, there is a chance that not all lucid dreams are projections. Perhaps when you are acting out your lucid dream that your non-physical self stays stationary, or when your dream fades you are just recalled to the body at different attempts. Both are really great and rewarding altered states either way. Obes are great for certain things and so are lucid dreams. They are both fun for sure.

[astralmugee]

Hmm so do OBE's feel like lucid dreams then? I couldn't even pass through the door, I had to open it...I thought in AP's you can walk through things...

Also I felt like I wasn't wearing any clothes when I was upstairs...do we wear clothes in the astral? Though at one point a big part of my arm was missing and from the corner of my eye it did not like a normal arm...kind of blue/white I think (really not sure). Plus I didn't see my body laying anywhere, but then again I didn't turn round to try and find it :S

I had a accidental obe once, the only one ive ever had so far. but I was realy tired that day and layed down on my side in my bed. well first the door bell rang and jerked me out of dosing off. then my phone rang, again right when i was dozing off. the third time I fell asleep, I remember the first images and thoughts where of me standing inbetween two pine trees. the trees only had pine needles on the top half of them.I never get hurt in a dream, but this time I could feel the pine needles poking my feet, so i kept my balance lightly by holding on to the two trees.
  well after that thought, I think I was asking my self if this is astral projection. and I sat up in  my bed. it was strange, everything was like in real life. it was clear as day, everything was the same etc. well i then layed back down,I remember thinking is this a dream?am i waking up in a dream? but I sat back up.I then layed back down and for some reason kept sitting back up. the last time of sitting up I realized I couldnt get back in my body. I could see  my self lying there but at the same time new I was sitting up. I tryed getting up but it wasnt possible for some reason .I then remembered people saying to grasp the wall etc. so i leaned back and touched the wall with my head. for some reason my body felt limpish so i fell back and kinda scrape my head all along the wall. I then wok up. I remember feeling as if  I had a body high or something during this instence.
  anyways my point would be, for that moment everything was clear,  clear enough to where I did not know for a while if i was dreaming or awake.