My log of the different ways to exit the physical body.

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todd421757

My log of the different ways I have exited the physical body. I am presenting this information to the forum in hopes it could benefit others.

1) Through the head
2) Through the feet
3) Forwards
4) Side shift to the right or left side of the body.
5) In a spiral, whirl, or zigzag
6) Backwards
7) Lengthwise
8 ) Upwards or vertical
9) Rolling to the right or left side
10) With one, two, or three somersaults over itself
11) Diving down or through the bed below
12) Sitting up

Szaxx

Hi,
Nice list. I've done a few of them. The one method thats not there is scene creation. I'd guess this method only works with phasing to the astral. Your listed methods are all applicable to etheric projections.
Have you ever used a phasing technique to project etherially?
Can it be done?
You can get into the RTZ through phasing. Does this count?
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Xanth

That's a good list, indeed.
Do they all lead you to the same starting point?

Quote from: Szaxx on September 16, 2012, 06:31:09
You can get into the RTZ through phasing. Does this count?
You can get anywhere with phasing.

Szaxx

Hi,
I know that its all access through phasing, its being in the etheral body as a result. I have thought about this since and remember going to places when I was around 5 years old and everything looked as in the physical. No reality fluctuations that I can recall. Everyone seems to see some (rf) most times when in the RTZ. Having said that, most get the vibrations and thats a real challenge for me and I think yourself too (Xanth).
Its the memory of wanting to see something and actually being there with no loss of conciousness. Even in the dark there's always enough light to see. I cant recall the vibrations even back then as a child. I do remember flying was no problem and seeing things through time lapse from before they happened upto  the then present time (mid 1960's). I only travelled within a mile from my body at that time, I may recall more later though. Its the distance issue, reading various works, most reports are close to the body.
Is this true of the etheral projection experience?
Todd may have had a similar experience based on the first post, although The more you learn the less you know comes to mind.
Thanks.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

todd421757

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Quote from: Szaxx on September 16, 2012, 06:31:09
1) Have you ever used a phasing technique to project etherially?
2) Can it be done?
3) You can get into the RTZ through phasing. Does this count?

1) I have used phasing with sound awareness to project etherially. But, I have not been able to phase with visual images to project etherially. I believe the sound awareness acts as a physical and RTZ anchor, while the visual images act as a dream anchor. This would explain the differences between the two projections.

2) I am very interested to see if it is possible to phase with visual images to project etherially. I am interested if anyone can do it on a somewhat consistent basis.

3) Yes, I would count phasing into the RTZ as valid. It probably would be even more valid than an etheric projection since there would be less loss of energy during the separation process.

I believe the below link describes the most complete projection with no loss of energy upon separation and no reality fluctuations.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obes_while_wide_awake_with_mind_split-t38124.0.html


Quote from: Xanth on September 16, 2012, 10:33:05
Do they all lead you to the same starting point?

Yes, they all lead me to the same starting point which is the room I am sleeping in.


Quote from: Szaxx on September 16, 2012, 11:32:44
I have thought about this since and remember going to places when I was around 5 years old and everything looked as in the physical. No reality fluctuations that I can recall. Everyone seems to see some (rf) most times when in the RTZ. I only travelled within a mile from my body at that time, I may recall more later though. Its the distance issue, reading various works, most reports are close to the body.
Is this true of the etheral projection experience?
Todd may have had a similar experience based on the first post, although The more you learn the less you know comes to mind.
Thanks.

When there is no loss of energy while separating into the RTZ, there will be no reality fluctuations during the projection as long as you stay within a close distance to the physical body and remain as motionless as possible while out of body. Below is a link that mentions this. Look for my reply #2.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/robert_crookall_quottechniques_of_astral_projectionquot-t38041.0.html

The more energy you lose during the separation process, the more reality fluctuations there are. I have found that the more energy you lose, the better chance you have of dreaming. The less energy you lose the greater chance you have of remaining in the physical or in the RTZ.  

This is the reason I start the separation process immediately at the beginning of the vibrations where I find the soft tug, so there is a minimal loss of energy. If you wait to separate during the middle or end of the vibrations, you may lose energy and have more reality fluctuations while in the RTZ.

Szaxx

Hi,
After a read and more thought, I still can't remember any reality fluctuations bar one where a mirror I dont have appeared infront of me on an upstairs passageway I dont have and I knew instinctively to enter it as a portal to recover something.. I took it with a pinch of salt as its so different from usual, the fact it was a recovery took my mind off how it started out. Thing that was on my mind at that time is walking through a closed door in my house. Id not done this for decades and wanted to do it. Upon success of it is when the mirror etc occured. It did feel like my early adventures at the start but changed completely after entering the mirror.
This was about 2.5 years ago, 1 year before joining the Pulse.
I can assume that it started as etheral and then changed astral.
Still no sign of vibrations or any transition between the 2 states.
The most distant recently I posted on just a dream thread, somewhere near Gatwick airport, again no fluctuations from the previous astral visit apart from it was time correct and therefore at night.
I find in most accounts I've read your emotional state of mind has a great effect on fluctuations. I seem to have very good control of this even in the physical. It may be something to experiment with.
When the moments right Ill try your previous suggestion again on another thread. That worked but I wasn't in the house as I was very high up for some reason. I never want to see myself sleeping...strange as it sounds.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Xanth

Is there any fundamental difference to the experience based upon 'where' you 'exit' from your body?

todd421757

#7
Quote from: Xanth on September 16, 2012, 21:28:52
Is there any fundamental difference to the experience based upon 'where' you 'exit' from your body?

Yes there is a difference with the experience depending on where you exit from.

Exiting through the feet brings the most realistic projection possible with full consciousness intact from exit to re-entry. It feels the same as maneuvering with the physical body. There is no doubt in your mind this is an OBE after you exit this way. The exit feels like if you hook a very strong vacuum cleaner to the soles of your feet and you suck your etheric body straight out.

Exiting through the head tends is desirable also, but it is easy to blackout and lose conscious control. Then you feel yourself jolt back into the physical body. Some of my best validations have came with exiting through the head. With this exit method, you can either have an OBE or a lucid dream depending on your level of thought control and your control of visualizations. With this exit method, if you feel the physical body jolt or you hear a loud snapping sound in the center of the head, then you are making progress.

The easiest exit method is by rolling out to the right or left. But, the problem with this exit method is the greater chance of reality fluctuations. Many people who use the roll out method usually ask "Did I have an OBE or was I dreaming?". I have never had a projection with this exit method that had no reality fluctuations.

Sinking down into the bed is a good experience as you can feel the bed as you exit down. But, this exit method is easy to get loss where you are and blackness is common. Reality fluctuations are also common with this exit method.

Sitting up and floating upwards are two other easy exit methods, but they are both prone to reality fluctuations like the rolling out method and the sinking down method.

Exiting by traveling forward is the most intense exit method. Before landing in the RTZ, you feel yourself rushing at a great speed forward into blackness and hearing a loud wind sound. It is easy to lose focus in the blackness and not find yourself in the RTZ. With this exit method, it feels like you are rushing straight towards death. You lose total recollection that you are living a physical life during the rushing forward. It is quite an experience.

The spiral, whirl, or zigzag is similar to the feeling of getting shot out of your head like a cannonball. This exit method is great, but if the speed of exit is too much, you may miss the RTZ entirely if your etheric body exits through the house roof. This exit method feels like a pressure building up in the head, and then you feel an explosion. After getting shot upwards, you sometimes then descend downwards through the floor.

Greytraveller

Hello todd421757
Yes that is a pretty extensive list. On several occasions I have managed to get out of body using methods
3) Forwards
8 ) Upwards or vertical
9) Rolling to the right or left side and
12) Sitting up.
#9 the "roll out" method may be the most popular way to get OOB.

Regards  8-)
Grey

Xanth

Quote from: todd421757 on September 16, 2012, 23:18:02
Yes there is a difference with the experience depending on where you exit from.

Exiting through the feet brings the most realistic projection possible with full consciousness intact from exit to re-entry. It feels the same as maneuvering with the physical body. There is no doubt in your mind this is an OBE after you exit this way. The exit feels like if you hook a very strong vacuum cleaner to the soles of your feet and you suck your etheric body straight out.

Exiting through the head tends is desirable also, but it is easy to blackout and lose conscious control. Then you feel yourself jolt back into the physical body. Some of my best validations have came with exiting through the head. With this exit method, you can either have an OBE or a lucid dream depending on your level of thought control and your control of visualizations. With this exit method, if you feel the physical body jolt or you hear a loud snapping sound in the center of the head, then you are making progress.

The easiest exit method is by rolling out to the right or left. But, the problem with this exit method is the greater chance of reality fluctuations. Many people who use the roll out method usually ask "Did I have an OBE or was I dreaming?". I have never had a projection with this exit method that had no reality fluctuations.

Sinking down into the bed is a good experience as you can feel the bed as you exit down. But, this exit method is easy to get loss where you are and blackness is common. Reality fluctuations are also common with this exit method.

Sitting up and floating upwards are two other easy exit methods, but they are both prone to reality fluctuations like the rolling out method and the sinking down method.

Exiting by traveling forward is the most intense exit method. Before landing in the RTZ, you feel yourself rushing at a great speed forward into blackness and hearing a loud wind sound. It is easy to lose focus in the blackness and not find yourself in the RTZ. With this exit method, it feels like you are rushing straight towards death. You lose total recollection that you are living a physical life during the rushing forward. It is quite an experience.

The spiral, whirl, or zigzag is similar to the feeling of getting shot out of your head like a cannonball. This exit method is great, but if the speed of exit is too much, you may miss the RTZ entirely if your etheric body exits through the house roof. This exit method feels like a pressure building up in the head, and then you feel an explosion. After getting shot upwards, you sometimes then descend downwards through the floor.
Oh man... I understand you now!!  I understand your metaphors of places to exit and what they mean to you in relation to my own metaphors!!

How you exit triggers a certain level of awareness.  Awesome.  :)

I just never asked the right question.  LoL
Thank you for that detailed post, Todd.  :)