Please Reply: Re: OBEs into Future Probabilities, Earth Changes

[omcasey]

Is anyone here having OBEs into future probabilities pertaining to earth changes?, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc..  Currently I am being taken in to experience many, all water/tsunami related off the west coast of California.  Maybe because I live here? (I dunno).  Do any of you live in coastal cities?  The first tsunami I experienced was taking place in San Francisco, the next, which I experienced just days ago was right here off the Santa Monica coastline.  This morning, in a half symbolic, half practical kind of way I was shown how close I am to this event.  I was given an arial view showing the waterline literally in my backyard.  I don't know what to make of these yet.  They are persistent, they keep happening.

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I am posting this query everywhere I can think, the frequency of these events is growing so it is feeling increasingly more pertinent.

Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights.

[Volgerle]

I never saw anything in a projection. I also never belonged to the panic fraction and still don't. But I admit I was a bit frightened when I listend a few days ago to this one where one of the channellers or experiencers mentioned the years 2012 for these kind of cataclysms, and also 2014, - the latter of which was given (and I'm certain Mr Icke and other NWO fighters won't like to hear this) as the year where a kind of world government would be formed due to the drastic developments. It should be noted that these recordings partially were done in the 70ies or 80ies, where people certainly did not have any 2012 hype at all! However, other channelers / experiencers mentioned different time frames iirc.

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/downloads/explorer-series-9/

Still, I try to keep an open mind. I think it is all about possibilities, nothing is certain. And since more and more people are afraid of nature cataclysms like this, especially with regard to next year, I believe what some experience in visions or prophetic OBEs might also be caused by a kind of collective fear scenario as a kind of "fantasy" played out. It might manifest being created by our collective (sub)consciousness, but not necessarily on the physical level.
A second possibility is that future probablilities which emit a strong energy (and cataclysms do) are more likely to be "seen" by clairvoyants. This is also what Tom Campbell wrote in his book.

[Volgerle]

I remember Robert Bruce talking about his OBE views of the future. He said there will be changes but not related to floodings.

http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?12658-quot-dramatic-events-quot

However, he still remains a bit 'cryptic' about what he claims to know. As of yet.

[kurtykurt42]

I never saw anything in a projection. I also never belonged to the panic fraction and still don't. But I admit I was a bit frightened when I listend a few days ago to this one where one of the channellers or experiencers mentioned the years 2012 for these kind of cataclysms, and also 2014, - the latter of which was given (and I'm certain Mr Icke and other NWO fighters won't like to hear this) as the year where a kind of world government would be formed due to the drastic developments. It should be noted that these recordings partially were done in the 70ies or 80ies, where people certainly did not have any 2012 hype at all! However, other channelers / experiencers mentioned different time frames iirc.

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/downloads/explorer-series-9/

Still, I try to keep an open mind. I think it is all about possibilities, nothing is certain. And since more and more people are afraid of nature cataclysms like this, especially with regard to next year, I believe what some experience in visions or prophetic OBEs might also be caused by a kind of collective fear scenario as a kind of "fantasy" played out. It might manifest being created by our collective (sub)consciousness, but not necessarily on the physical level.
A second possibility is that future probablilities which emit a strong energy (and cataclysms do) are more likely to be "seen" by clairvoyants. This is also what Tom Campbell wrote in his book.

You should take a look at Howard Menger. While working for the US government, he and his family were contacted in the 1950s by human aliens that said they would return in 2012.



http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Howard_Menger_001.html

[Lionheart]

  Hello Casey, I am not seeing Tsunami's right now, but I don't live near the coast. What I am seeing is fires and lots of them.  Last week I was doing a Phase session and I saw a police car in the distance, all of a sudden it pulled up right in front of me and shocked me. But in back of it everything was on fire. Mountains, land, buildings, it was quite intense. I have seen this fire scene a a couple of times now. In January of this year I was seeing a lot of water scenes with giant waves. I posted that way earlier in my beginning posts here. I have not viewed giant waves for a long time now. I hope this helps you.
Stay safe!  

[Pritchmr]

Casey, I had a dream the other night where I was trying to leave a busy city and It appeared to be flooding... Dunno if it was passed life memory or what but I remember running through the streets and I was aware of water rushing after me... Not sure if it was a tsunami or what... The city reminded me of a bigger city, but one I had never been to...

[omcasey]

Thanks! everyone, for your replies..

Volgerie,

I don't belong to the panic fraction either.  And this line of thought -earth changes- is not one I naturally follow.  It is not something I have even considered, or been interested in in any way.  I've no real idea yet of the purpose behind my being taken through these kinds of OBEs.  Although I may be beginning to see the tip of the thing.  I enjoy the Monroe Explorer Series recordings, I am familiar with the one you linked to.  It is my least favorite, I listened to all the recordings many times each before clicking into this one.  I got bored after only a few minutes and clicked out of it.  It's not the kind of stuff I am generally interested in hearing.  I should maybe go back and listen though, yeah?

you said:
"And since more and more people are afraid of nature cataclysms like this, especially with regard to next year, I believe what some experience in visions or prophetic OBEs might also be caused by a kind of collective fear scenario as a kind of "fantasy" played out. It might manifest being created by our collective (sub)consciousness, but not necessarily on the physical level.  A second possibility is that future probablilities which emit a strong energy (and cataclysms do) are more likely to be "seen" by clairvoyants."

I think a part of what I am experiencing in these OBEs is my consciousness merging with other lifetimes, in realities where these tsunamis actually are happening.  I don't know if I will experience one as Casey, in whatever timeline I happen to be in.  My last experience suggests a certain probability, I just can't tell yet if I am shifting out of the timeline where it is happening or into it.  I understand your #1 belief,  but it is not likely in my own instance.  Although I have indeed entered ideas within the collective psyche.  As recently as this past week.  The thing I would mention about this, is it is ideas entering the collective psyche, weighing heavily one way or the other that can make them manifest in our physical reality.  This too can be seen in advance.  Alot of my role is transmuting layers of fear in and around actualities such as these, perhaps this is some of what I am doing in these OBEs.  And others, like Lionheart and Pritchmr.  It sounds right, now that I am saying it.


Lionheart, Pritchmr,

Thank you for sharing your related experiences, I appreciate it, it does indeed help me.

Somehow the picture begins clarifying when we come together.



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Here's the video relay of my tsumami OBEs--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpi-1VRxYbc&list=UUjtfNXVyzT6CnCXRvTQbPQg&feature=plcp

 

[Greytraveller]

Hallo omcasey
While I have never had a precognitive OBE I have had a few precog dreams. Those dreams covered everything from as mundane as a routine city bus ride to as widespread as major flooding in Texas. I was not shown these events through guides I simply experienced them as part of a dream.
My BIG problem is that it is never obvious when a dream is showing a future event as opposed to random dream imagery (whether self created or as part of a more encompassing dream plane). There are simply no tell tale indicators. I strongly suspect that this is also the case during OBEs and APs. So while I will readily admit that the ability to foresee the future Does exist it seems to be a random talent that comes and goes seemingly on a whim of chance.
Then again maybe a few select people HAVE learned how to predict the future with a high degree of accuracy (like Nostradamus with scrying, or with remote viewing or OBE or whatever) and these people are keeping the secret to themselves. 

Regards 
Grey

[Lionheart]

 If the Gov't and their scientists knew of some in coming object that would impact our planet, there is no way they would ever say it. Think of the ramifications of exposing this, there would be panic like we have never experienced before. It would be a judgment call, tell people ahead of time and have the world in an uproar or allow the event to take place with no public knowledge and then handle the disaster when it occurs. You know that the "powers that be" would not be in that zone at the time though. They would be hunkered down waiting for it all to end, then they would come out of their safe zone and govern as good as they could. This is not Conspiracy, this is fact. Why do you thing the Gov't hires "threat assessors" like Tom Campbell who have the ability to Phase?

[omcasey]

Hallo omcasey
While I have never had a precognitive OBE I have had a few precog dreams. Those dreams covered everything from as mundane as a routine city bus ride to as widespread as major flooding in Texas. I was not shown these events through guides I simply experienced them as part of a dream.
My BIG problem is that it is never obvious when a dream is showing a future event as opposed to random dream imagery (whether self created or as part of a more encompassing dream plane). There are simply no tell tale indicators. I strongly suspect that this is also the case during OBEs and APs. So while I will readily admit that the ability to foresee the future Does exist it seems to be a random talent that comes and goes seemingly on a whim of chance.
Then again maybe a few select people HAVE learned how to predict the future with a high degree of accuracy (like Nostradamus with scrying, or with remote viewing or OBE or whatever) and these people are keeping the secret to themselves. 

Regards 
Grey

Hi Grey,

I understand your current position.

In my OBEs, there is data I receive, feel and experience as meaning 'future probability'.  The more it happens the more easily recognizable the data is.

I put this through on the EIC board and I'm going to put it through here too to see what comes up--


I have a question for everyone who has experienced earth change scenarios in OBEs, particularly scenarios with a repeating theme, such as tsunamis, which are coming through regularly--  in your experiences, are you point consciousness, or embodied, and if the latter, did you look down at yourself to see if you were your current self?  I always feel as though I am me, Casey, but in events when I have looked I almost never am.  I am just curious, have you looked?..  Do you remember?

The precognitive aspect to my experiences is just beginning to come fuller into my awareness.  Prior, I really wasn't seeing it.  Until the number of events (OBEs) which actually did come to pass, in both my non-physical and physical reality began growing.  At first it was little things, like I would see a friend in bed with a different girl friend, then days later hear a break-up had happened, and that the friend had moved and was now with someone else.  Then it got bigger.  I was shown my current care client going into cardiac arrest in the night in the bathroom.  I took steps to evade this, yet a similar thing did indeed happen, only we made it to the hospital and she is still with us today.  More things along this line, then the tsunamis.  Three OBEs now I have moved through along this line.

The presence of ET craft during the tsunamis is interesting.  I haven't translated that part of the data fully yet.  But it is beginning to seep through slowly.  It feels like it has something to do with integrating those particular layers of our being.  As someone who is acutely aware of energy sensations through the physical construct as this happens, this could be the basis of/for tsunamis (fires, earthquakes, etc..) in our PMR, they could be the interpretation of the experience of integration with these layers.  Which is often not smooth and easy.  Most physical minds are frightened beyond saying of the ET layers.  They feel invaded by them.  Yet they ARE moving in to our awareness and consensus reality.  Even people such as me, who are aware of more than most have many challenges in this area.  But I am just sort of talking out loud here.  Big question marks still remaining.

[Lionheart]

 When I saw my scene with the police car and the fires it was like I was there. I was seeing it with my own eyes, not a secondary view. I didn't look down to see if it was me, it just felt like I was seeing it just a vivid as I see whith my physical eyes. I have watched your videos and I don't quite understand what your "layers" are. When I see in the Astral I am there, it is vivid in full color and everything. Once in awhile I visit an area (I don't know exactly where), but there is other unearthly entities there. I call them my friends, my brothers, my aides. I never use the term Alien to them. They only speak to me through thought/telepathy. I have never had one of them speak with their mouths.
I feel that your Tsunami visions are a sign to you alone. There are a number of things I learn in the Astral that I am not allowed to speak in public or to anyone for that matter. Warning others of this will do know good. Just today on Yahoo they had a story that the Doomsday Clock just started ticking, today being Dec. 21 2011, but the general populace's comments were basically that anyone that believes this should have their head examined and were nutcases. These people can't even phathom the possibility that this could be true. I am hoping they keep these closed minds here, I feel that man may be the one that unleashes destruction simply do to the Collective Conscious and expectation.

[KilltheInfected]

I had a dream not to long ago that was semi lucid, I was completely aware though.   I was in a city in a durango driving down a hill to an intersection which had a bridge above it.  Well in this dream it was flooded like 4 feet with rapids and the entire bridge had been taken down I tried to stop, looked to the left decided to try to whip it through got halfway in looked up and a huge wave bigger than the highway was crashing in, it when for as far as the eye could see left and right.  I turned around and tried to make it up the steep hill that was wet and difficult to hold track on.   
      I've also recently had a dream of a chaotic apocalypse I was in a warehouse and escaped to find mark twain in a truck that I jumped in. I can't recall ever seeing his image but maybe I have when I was young.  I mean he didn't tell me he was mark twain I just intuitively knew it was mark twain.  He told me some good advice about some random villager or whatever.  he said, "Its like that guy(generic name here) he wasn't anything special or had anything out of the ordinary but when faced with overwhelming odds he looked down and found what it took to go 110% until he some how pulled through it.  You see it was his will and direct attempt to give it all to a situation in order to succeed. "  Or something to that nature, it came in bits and chunks as a fluid idea it seems.  I told my brother, he said what did he look like.  My only reference I could think of and I responded, "Albert Einstein"  cause he looks like him, the man I saw in my dream.  He googled mark twain in images and he looked identical as in my dream.  And alot like albert einstein haha.

After that i had a dream about chinese or russian soldiers in our homeland, a local police officer showed up and was like "now boys i need you to listen up like it was the last day of your life, do not say a word just do as he says"  Then I hear a shot from the distance,"Get on the ground, lay down, lay down."  What shocked me was that the police officer of our turf layed down too.  The other officer that said get down, was in some kind of strange military outfit and had an assult gun.