Its been too long..help please

[Zarklon]

Hey fellas, its been a while since I've been to the site.  I have been dealing with a very rough life and let me tell you , being so spiritual definately has its benefits.. its probably the only thing keeping me sane.... yet again , being a little too enlightened might not be a good thing since I simply can't stand just about every little thing I see in society.. bah thats another story.. anyway , on to my question  

I've not tried to hard lately to astral projection because its been soo long since having one and lately I hardly get the chance to actually sleep in a bed much less a quiet place!  I do reach a point where my body starts jerking a bit as I fall asleep and I even feel my mind start to experience imagery.. usually once the imagery starts flowing pretty good I'll notice my limbs jerk randomly whether its a leg or an arm or whatever I notice it and before long I fall asleep... I know this is a trigger for me letting me know I'm close to the awake/asleep border but this has always been my problem.. what should I start doing at this point.. I kinda gave up on ideas lately.. Why does it seem like i can project more often in an uncomfortable sitting up position in a school classroom than in a quiet place in a comfortable bed??  Believe me its true.. 80% of my OBEs happened in school.. in class with a teacher lecturing and students making noise..  it was even much easier and almost effortless.  Its just hard for me to go OBE I guess when theres no distractions.. I think I may take my own self out of trance pretty regularly during the attempt by focusing on my breathing or other things that just tend to "end the trance feeling" if you know what i'm talking about... That feeling usually makes me feel like I really need to reposition myself in the bed and of course once I do that , I simply end the trance state and fall asleep  

So basically , does anyone have any ideas for me to try once I notice the imagery and jerking limbs?   Much thanks everyone!  

Hit me up on yahoo with  Spiritual_guy_19  as the username if you want.  Peace Fellas!

[kiwibonga]

Those are called "hypnogogic jerks" -- a lot of people experience them when falling asleep.

When you go to sleep, the etheric body detaches slightly from the physical and hovers a few inches above it, mimicking the sleep position. This starts at the feet and ends at the head, according to what I've read...

Hypnogogic jerks do not have a scientific explanation for them -- I personally believe that they are due to your etheric body violently reconnecting with the physical, for whatever reason (a disruption of some sort).

The imagery is called hypnogogic imagery. It is the sign that your brain has been "rewired" for sleep purposes and that instead of seeing the darkness behind your eyelids, you can see the images in your mind's eye directly. This is once again most likely related to the separation from the physical.

What you should do to progress is remain calm throughout the images and sounds you may hear, but remain conscious. Let the hypnogogics have their fun for a couple of minutes and relax until you are in such a deep state that you do not see them anymore. When they stop, you are supposedly in the perfect state to attempt a conscious exit projection (search for DO_OBE.pdf on google), at that point you can try to look around, you will most likely be in control of the etheric body while your physical body is sound asleep. You'll be able to "see through your eyelids" and do a lot of cool stuff!

[Zarklon]

Thanks very much Kiwibonga for replying

My problem is .. once the imagery stops I know I should be so close to paralysis or probably even in it already but lately its like my body just wont allow me to conciously advance to an OBE state because it seems like once I make some kind of effort to do so the trance state stops and I feel just like I would feel as if I got up , paced around , and lay right back down.  Basically it just feels like I'm wide awake again and no matter how much I try I cannot even get to the imagery or hypnagogic jerks anymore .. this feeling forces me to toss and turn over and thus ends up in me sleeping shortly after.

You see... when Im not trying to project I'll notice the jerks and imagery as well and fall asleep almost immediately after noticing them for a few minutes which is normal..

But when trying to project , I'll notice them as well but any kind of concious effort to go OBE whether its a visualization , or me trying to move my subtle energy body around to induce vibrations , seem to end the trance state and make me simply feel like I'll be laying there forever and ever and although I dont get physically uncomfortable .. its just a feeling of "OH MY GOD TURN OVER AND GO TO SLEEP ALREADY"  .. which is NOT what I want to do ... I few people have noticed this sudden urge to just reposition themselves for no reason and when ignoring this urge it drives them to utter madness and definately far from the asleep/awake border.. do you know what I'm trying to explain?  it might sound odd but its been my problem for the past year or so and I know this is my final if not one of my final obstacles to overcome before finally exploring the OBE state on a more daily or at least weekly basis instead of randomly every few months    

Thank for your help , if I'm unclear let me know and I'll try to clarify anything and answer some more questions for you if you wanna pry further into my situation.  I've been reading posts here for the past few hours today and I must say I took notice so your posts enought to do a search for the topics you post on and you definately know what you are talking about so I was very pleased to see you were  first to reply.. I've seen people like you show up here and unfortunately disappear abrubtly so try to stick around bud! You are a great help.

I'll be happy to elaborate on anything further if you are interested.  Peace!