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Flipper

Hello, I've been interested in OBE's since I had a terrifying experience a few years ago.

When I read the techniques used on these forums to achieve an OBE I got confused...
I've read many posts on meditating and focusing on the blackness behind your eyelids, among other things...

In my personal experience when I was near dying ( years ago), I was in a normal mind state lying on a couch looking around the living room when I suddenly felt like someone was sucking my soul upwards out of my forehead, I couldn't move but my view of the living room was raising up to the ceiling...

I tried to recreate this feeling recently because I became curious about it when I found out a lot of people do this, and to my surprise I was successful.  Here's the thing, my technique is way different from everything I have currently read, since my eyes are wide open and it works whenever I've tried it ( I read people usually wake themselves up early), I tried it successfully before I go to sleep at night and during about 3 pm.

Another thing is it has only taken me about 10 - 15 minutes to achieve, all I do is lay down and try to create that feeling in my stomache that people get when your about to kiss a girl you really like, it's that tingly feeling, then it shoots waves of that feeling to my head ( even past it) and up I go...

Also I've read people have seen other worlds... and I only see what a person in a normal state of mind would see, which is this world we all live in (reality) ...

So if anyone knows more about this type of OBE can you link me to some articles? Thanks




Jarrod

I've never heard of anything like that but it sounds awesome.  I tried it and it doesn't work for me but I think you're really lucky that it's so easy for you.  :-)

Astral316

I don't think you were dying per se. You just seem to have an unusually advanced and natural ability to project. I'm the same way to a lesser degree. My childhood "night life" was haunted with pre-projection sensations that would never quit once triggered. I learned that if I did accidentally trigger this phenomenon I'd have to keep myself up for the duration of the night. Now I wish I took advantage of them because meditation only gives me a fraction of what I got back then, but that's beside the point.

Your method could be "energy raising" but I try not to get caught up in semantics... you used your mind to create a projection-triggering sensation which is the fundamental idea behind exit techniques.

Your projections seem to be to the "etheral plane" or "real time zone." Most of my projections are here as well. You can usually enter the more alien astral environments by a) projecting there by chance, b) continuing your exit technique in the etheral environment, or c) entering a door, window, portal, etc. in the etheral environment.

Xanth

Hi Flipper,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse!

It sounds like you've hit on a technique that works perfectly for you!
I'm not gonna go and try to classify what you're doing, cause honestly, I don't know.  Some form of Visualization of remembered feelings... the end result is that you should stick with it and not worry about it being something that other people are doing or not.

What's important is that it works for you... and it works WELL for you!

Once you get comfortable moving around your current vicinity, try moving elsewhere.  You can even step into pictures and mirrors... they tend to lead directly to an astral location.

Alternatively, first clear your mind... then visualize where ever it is you want to go.   :)

Anyway, you're doing absolutely phenomenal!  Keep it up!

Psan

Hello Flipper,

It seems you are naturally gifted. You can easily learn to travel to "more" non-physical areas. One way is simply by wishing to see something while you are out.

But more importantly, as you can project at will in RTZ (this world), it will be easy for you to set up some verification experiments. Double blinded and irrefutable.