psychedelics vs OOBE/AP

[Comokisadore]

I want to try DMT to see what effects I get from it, so I can compare the its effects with the feelings of OBE's

-Como

[goingslow]

You really cant compare the two.  I think people try comparing them because they are both the most radical departure from every day perspective.  In an OBE, however, you are in complete control of your mind, you have to be or else weird stuff will happen.  It takes a lot of work too (to have them on a regular basis).  

Drugs are in control of your mind when you're on them which is the difference.  Im not knocking the experience, but its just not the same.

[smooth]

what is dmt. is it like a drug like weed. or like a pill.

[Logic]

Its a crystal, like speed. Except, without the adverse affects.

[ralphm]

I have had similar experiences with both- going to a realm of swirling geometric rainbow lights/beings. Maybe it is just a question of what is best for your own evolution.

[anarchyhollow]

I guess i really didn't see it that way goingslow. When experiencing an OBE on drugs, you aren't even in control of yourself (which can be dangerous if you think about it). DMT is a drug that is extracted from lot's of different species of plants. It's the strongest hallucinogen known to man, and it also is present in the human body. Research has showed that possibly DMT is released by the brain during NDE's, and at other times. It's kind of odd how Seratonin (sp?) is the chemical in the body that helps with main functions, such as breathing, moving, and other such things, and is a very close cousin of Dimethyltryptamine (DMT). Peace

[yellowsubmarine]

Not only is it released during NDEs but it has been shown to be in minute quanties in the bloodstream of schizophrenics. It is also produced while you dream, lucid dream and have OBES. When you meditate you are essentially changing chemical balances in the brain, and when you deeply meditate you open up the pineal to endrogonous dmt production. DMT has been argued to be one of the safest hallucinagens for 2 reasons. 1) The pineal produces it. 2) The duration of the trip (5 - 8 minutes) points to the fact that DMT is a baseline drug that the brain knows exactly how to handle and work with. The experience is very familiar.

Peace.

[anarchyhollow]

Just wondering which people think is more vast and interesting. I have lot's of experience with psychedelics and think that we have barely touched the surface of what it has to give. DMT is a very spiritual drug that i've used that shows me just how vast psychedelics are. I don't have any experience with OOBE, or AP (yet), but realize how vast these things are. Peace