So....Frank fell off the face of the earth?
mmmhmmmm.... sure wish I knew where that guy went to..... :|
I thought Mars was the one with the face...
It's sad to see someone with some good philosophies dissapear. The newsletter that he put out was very interesting. Very enjoyable reading.
I miss Frank too, he's one of the main reasons I've been visiting the AP forum for the last 4-5 years, and I was interested in his work.
www.astralprojectiontruth.com
For those who are wondering about Frank:
He was very seriously ill the last time we communicated with him and we have come to the conclusion that he has since died or is at the very least completely incapacitated.
We are not aware of any other information at this point and all attempts to contact him have failed.
:-(
lol tellit like it is gandalf
Sorry, that sounded a bit official!
hehe.....
Frank believed a lot of things....... but the 'problem' was that he believed what he experienced was the TRUTH. Harath... Freda... bla bla... alll existing in his mind.
Many here follow him... but Frank was kidding himself!
He talked about the belief system terrorties.... and he says he knows where he will end up after 'death'
hehe
but Frank fell into a trap. It was all in his mind - he believes there is such a thing as an 'ultimate reality'
Funny thing is.... the future only exists as a concept. Frank is kidding himself.
^^
You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Anyway, I had a dream like 2 months ago that Frank helped me Phase. I said that I was having trouble & he said "Here let me help you." I felt a pulling motion and than ended up in Focus 2 than I had the thought of going outside of my house than BAM. I was instantly outside of my house than I had the thought of flying than BAM I was in the air. I think that I had contact with Frank in that dream.
Quote from: Quo Animo on September 17, 2006, 00:13:38
^^
You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Anyway, I had a dream like 2 months ago that Frank helped me Phase. I said that I was having trouble & he said "Here let me help you." I felt a pulling motion and than ended up in Focus 2 than I had the thought of going outside of my house than BAM. I was instantly outside of my house than I had the thought of flying than BAM I was in the air. I think that I had contact with Frank in that dream.
:-D
rock on....
I cant say I entirely disagree with you Patterns.. (or atleast not as bluntly as the last poster) but Frank, during his time here, aided me greatly. I'm not saying every word the guy ever spoke was truth but he not only exposed me to what Phasing was and what it was all about but he explained it in such a way that anyone could understand it as well as helping anyone that asked. The guy was the most giving teacher I have ever known and I didnt have to buy his book first for him to give me advice.... ultimately it was him who inspired me to begin my journey to projection and it was him who nurtured me into my first phasing experience. Say what you want, I know this is a double sided topic and I cant argue with the other side, they have their point, believe me, but I truely miss Frank and only wish to know whats up with him.
I respect what you think Patterns, but I don't believe that he was kidding himself. Everyone here believes in someting unique, Frank is just the same, he was just more widely open with what he believed. He was very giving and helped many people here; that's including me. Whether what he believed was all in his own mind, only Frank will know that in the end..if it hasn't already come.
All beliefs are ultimity "false"
the one whom HOLDS the beliefs is equally "false."
Beliefs are based upon the assumption there is a 'person' present to believe anything.
This is not a matter of a believer / nonbeliever.
:-D
Quote from: Gandalf on September 16, 2006, 10:47:52
For those who are wondering about Frank:
He was very seriously ill the last time we communicated with him and we have come to the conclusion that he has since died or is at the very least completely incapacitated.
We are not aware of any other information at this point and all attempts to contact him have failed.
Well, this is a suprise... A man did so much for this community. I don't know him but I see that he helped and inspired lot of you. Gandalf, you are not sure if he's dead and you speak just now about his terrible illness? This is kind of touching, Frank not asking for our help. Perhaps I missed important topic about this, I visit occasionally. I really want to help him get better any way I can, to the best of my abilities. Can you please make important topic, some info on a main page, so we can all contribute. Was he very old, did he want to go for any reason? Can we know something more, at least if he's alive? I am very angry with all of you, but it's not appropriate to discuss it right now.
Quote from: PatternsComingToLife on September 17, 2006, 05:33:21
All beliefs are ultimity "false"
the one whom HOLDS the beliefs is equally "false."
Beliefs are based upon the assumption there is a 'person' present to believe anything.
This is not a matter of a believer / nonbeliever.
:-D
Not to throw a wrench into your logic but would that include the belief that all beliefs are false?
This isn't a place of negativity Pattern. I also didn't start this thread to debate about anyone's beliefs; due to everyone accepting others beliefs around here; not naysaying.
I just wanted to bring up Frank and have some good discussion. There are soo soo many different ideas roiling around this forum you only need an open mind.
Sorry, I was just pointing out a logic error.
I do miss having Frank around though. He had some really interesting theories and a different view of the world that I miss seeing around here.
Hi:
"Not to throw a wrench into your logic but would that include the belief that all beliefs are false?"
There is no logic, no beliefs.
"This isn't a place of negativity Pattern. I also didn't start this thread to debate about anyone's beliefs; due to everyone accepting others beliefs around here; not naysaying.I just wanted to bring up Frank and have some good discussion. There are soo soo many different ideas roiling around this forum you only need an open mind."
negativity? It's all a play.... there is no 'other' -- it only exists in your mind. You are talking to yourself, lol.
the only thing that makes sense is that you think you are funny when you really aren't
I agree, I thought it was great that Frank was really trying to help us out, and he opened many of our eyes to different perspective points of view.
However, after a long while of hearing about his way or the highway... things just didn't add up. He frowned upon energy work and meditation even...I am glad to see the forum has strayed away from its flooded amount of phasing topics. I do, however, pray for Frank and that he doing alright.
I'm going to try Phasing to Focus 3 so I can see if I can contact him.
I also enjoyed Frank's views and valuable information. For a while I kept doing a search on his posts hoping he was coming back, but I gave up after a while. I was looking forward to his book "Astral Projection Truth". Thankfully there are several other valuable sources of information on AP. Anyway, good luck Frank wherever you are.
Oh and Patterns, thanks for posting. :wink: I'm always looking for a good test anywhere I can find it. :-) Especially since I just recently started about a month ago reconstructing, re-evaluating, and expanding my belief system as a new daily exercise.
PatternsComingToLife_
You do appear to talk a complete load of nonsense although you may think that what you are saying is incredibly witty, but anyway, on to more important matters...
I'm sorry that we can not be any more specific about Frank. This is not due to some grand conspiracy. Quite honestly, we do not know any more about his condition than you. In fact, we are not even aware what his condition was apart from the fact that it was very serious and life threatening. He stated at one point that he believed he only had a 15% chance of making it through to October... last year!
This guys sonds interesting is there a way to go back and look at his threads :?
Of course, look for threads about phasing by Frank he has massive amounts of info written on it.
here is one http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=17413.0
Quote from: PatternsComingToLife on September 17, 2006, 17:32:20
Hi:
"Not to throw a wrench into your logic but would that include the belief that all beliefs are false?"
There is no logic, no beliefs.
"This isn't a place of negativity Pattern. I also didn't start this thread to debate about anyone's beliefs; due to everyone accepting others beliefs around here; not naysaying.I just wanted to bring up Frank and have some good discussion. There are soo soo many different ideas roiling around this forum you only need an open mind."
negativity? It's all a play.... there is no 'other' -- it only exists in your mind. You are talking to yourself, lol.
Boy, what the frak are you talkin' about? You got something to say? Spit it out, man! Quit beating around the frakking bush. Hell, whenever Frank had something to say, he'd come out and say it. His posts may have had lots of paragraphs in them, but I made it through enough of them to know he didn't talk in stupid riddles. I don't think he was walking around with a black long- sleeved t-shirt with a big ol question mark across the front of it.
Hello PatternsComingToLife,
Quote from: PatternsComingToLife on September 16, 2006, 21:23:51
hehe.....
Frank believed a lot of things....... but the 'problem' was that he believed what he experienced was the TRUTH. Harath... Freda... bla bla... alll existing in his mind.
Many here follow him... but Frank was kidding himself!
He talked about the belief system terrorties.... and he says he knows where he will end up after 'death'
hehe
but Frank fell into a trap. It was all in his mind - he believes there is such a thing as an 'ultimate reality'
Funny thing is.... the future only exists as a concept. Frank is kidding himself.
That is a very profound statement coming from someone who did not know Frank and clearly does not know the inner realities either.
Astral projection is very real, Out of Body Experiences are very real and the Astral realms are very real. Regarding the Astral, you can either discover it now or wait until you pass on; but you will discover the truth sooner or later.
The future does not exist as a concept, it is a quantum probability, but I do not see what that has to do with Frank.
I knew Frank better than most, and I know beyond doubt he was/is genuine. I have no idea what became of him though.
Best regards,
Adrian.
Gandalf, do you know any details about his disease/problem? Poor Frank... :(
Adrian, I don't think patterns was declaring astral projection false, rather that Frank was basically open to his own interpretation and that's it. I can't quite recall precisely, but Frank also discarded what we call astral and that there is only different focuses... so thats a contradictory statement.
I have to admit that was one of my complaints, directly to him no less. I felt he got too harsh with people that didn't quite agree with his interpretations. I still don't know what is going on with that... but I always felt his leaving was...timely.
Quote from: Vvid1012 on September 21, 2006, 14:48:06
Adrian, I don't think patterns was declaring astral projection false, rather that Frank was basically open to his own interpretation and that's it. I can't quite recall precisely, but Frank also discarded what we call astral and that there is only different focuses... so thats a contradictory statement.
bingo!!!!! hehe
Well at least this guy is free from this frequency of life and has moved on to a higher level of conciseness and existence
His body is dead it doesnt matter what or how we enterprte life, it wont change what ever this guy is doing R.I.P i dont realy like that term becouse resting sounds so boring
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Quote from: Vvid1012 on September 21, 2006, 14:48:06
Adrian, I don't think patterns was declaring astral projection false, rather that Frank was basically open to his own interpretation and that's it. I can't quite recall precisely, but Frank also discarded what we call astral and that there is only different focuses... so thats a contradictory statement.
Hello,
I understand what you are saying, but I really do not believe Frank's absolute position on the Astral is different to anyone elses; he just expressed it in a different way.
Most people believe that Astral Projection is a projection away from the physical body to the Astral body. It isn't. We never project away from anything.
We are multi-dimensional, or more correctly multi-density/multi-vibrational Beings. We concurrently exist everywhere in the Universe at all levels at all times. What changes is our focus. When we project we are projecting consciousness to another level of vibration, corresponding to one of an infinite number of bodies. While "out of body" we travel by re-focussing on another locale or vibration. So if we meet someone else we are not travelling to see them, we are focussing on their vibration, and we thus arrive. Everything is Mind, Energy and Vibration; there is nothing else.
So what Frank taught was when we project it is a projection along a continuum of consiousness within the Mind; which is absolutely true.
I realise he was very "definite" about his ideas; but that was Frank :-) At least he was not afraid to tell it like it is rather than surrounding it in a whole load of mystical mumbo jumbo which is nothing to do with true inner travels.
Frank always taught the best time to project is at night, utilising natural processes; and I agree with that completely.
Kind regards,
Adrian.
Thanks for clearing it up Adrian the discusson was going a couple different ways. Frank was his own person too just as everyone else here. I just wanted to recognize that again.
Patterns, So are you suggesting that we don't exist? I have my doubts too! :-)
Frank was definitely dedicated. He went toe-to-toe with anyone who was confused, disagreed, or just wanted to know more. I really thought he was mistaken when he emphasized "acceptance," and would have much preferred to have heard his empirical success stories, but c'est la vie.
Quote from: catmeow on September 22, 2006, 23:07:01
Patterns, So are you suggesting that we don't exist? I have my doubts too! :-)
lol who asks the question?
:o)
Quote from: Telos on September 23, 2006, 00:04:22
Frank was definitely dedicated. He went toe-to-toe with anyone who was confused, disagreed, or just wanted to know more. I really thought he was mistaken when he emphasized "acceptance," and would have much preferred to have heard his empirical success stories, but c'est la vie.
Yep.
I think poor Frank stressed himself out too much. Maybe he tried too hard to convince certain people of certain things.
Maybe, but I don't think that it merits leaving forever or just not posting..aside from him being seriously ill or possibly laid to rest. I still miss him.
Quote from: mrloki on September 21, 2006, 00:49:19
Of course, look for threads about phasing by Frank he has massive amounts of info written on it.
here is one http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=17413.0
thanks for the link :)
though i dont know who Frank was but i would like to wish him well.