Geographic Location - Out of Body Experience

[David Warner]

Ap Friends,

I started to think about this the other day was wondering where everyone begins their obe experiences. Do you find that your OBE's repetitively occur in the same geographic location upon entering the astral?

About 95% of all my experiences start at my mom/dads home in Garden City, MI. Even if I live 200 miles from my parents, its my starting location, my temple of comfort.

So if we could have a discussion and survey this could help show consistency or possibly validity. I am thinking in scientific terms - to be able to reproduce the same obe conditions it might provoke thought.

When you project, where do you begin your experience?

Mom/Dads Home
Current Residency
Other

Please advise!

Tvos

[Leo Volont]

About 95% of all my experiences start at my mom/dads home in Garden City, MI. Even if I live 200 miles from my parents, its my starting location, my temple of comfort.

Yeap.

Probably you need to spread out a bit.  Start there but make it your point of departure.

Now, you can think Horizontal or you can think Vertical.  You can make lateral moves in the same Astral Plane, or you can climb to higher levels.

Whatever you choose, first try getting away from 'haunting' your hometown.   

[David Warner]

I have no problem haunting the home town, what I want to know is that the occurrence with other people's experiences. Are the geographic to their rtz environment they occupy at mom/dads home, or other?

this is my goal of this study.

tvos

[Leo Volont]

I have no problem haunting the home town, what I want to know is that the occurrence with other people's experiences. Are the geographic to their rtz environment they occupy at mom/dads home, or other?

this is my goal of this study.

tvos

What?  You think you are unique.

Yeah, you're unique... just like everybody else.

Most dreams take place in the familiar territories of the Home Town.  Those with significant experience in other areas, School, the Military, or Employment, will have varied experiences, but still a return to the hometown can be expected.

But it is confining, and with some effort one can get out of that rut.

Yes, I know you want to make it a Study.  but usually Scientists wait for some big fat Grant before they go about all the trouble of documenting the obvious.

There was a Study which cost several million dollars which was able to "prove" that those who died of Bird Flu were sicker than those who didn't die.  Yeap.  We got Proof!

Now you want to prove that people have subjective experiences close to home.

You should wait for the Million Dollars.  No sense giving away such wonderful instances of Proof.   

[kiwibonga]

The few OBEs I've had all either started in the location I was sleeping in, or in my childhood home back in France... I have yet to find myself anywhere truly unknown... I'm wondering if I created the childhood home landscape, either as symbolism for something, or as a "shield" so that I don't become afraid of being lost.

My childhood home happens to be my most frequent dream location, and it's very often distorted (rooms are mapped out differently, doors that are supposed to lead outside lead into new rooms, etc). Interestingly enough, I was always dead scared of the basement, and I can't recall ever dreaming of being in the basement from that house in a dream.

You know how in several books authors will report that we tend to see entities with clothes on when in fact they are nude? Could we be compensating subconsciously for the lack of knowns by putting "pictures" of home over the actual dream/OBE environment? I find it amazing how I tend to always find myself in hospital or school-like environments that look like my childhood home but with a different structure...

"Temple of comfort" would be a good way to put it -- but is it a kind of filter effect meant to comfort us, or do we actually go there? Good question!

[Novice]

Most dreams take place in the familiar territories of the Home Town.  Those with significant experience in other areas, School, the Military, or Employment, will have varied experiences, but still a return to the hometown can be expected.

I would have to disagree with this statement, at least based on my own personal experiences. In fact I was going to make a poll sometime today in the dreaming forum on a similar topic. I remember an average of 4 dreams/night. And I've been recording my dreams for about 6 years now. I can count on one hand, the number of dreams I have in my home or familiar surroundings. It simply rarely ever occurs that way for me.

As for astral experiences, I would need to clarify this point a bit. I do differentiate between OBE and astral trips. To me, OBE only occurs in the etheric plane with a perceived body. When in the astral, I rarely perceive a body and I am in vibrational planes higher than that of the etheric.

When I OBE I always exit right where my body is in my own room. I then immediately walk out through the nearest wall to my back yard. If my awareness is low, I will be content to simply look around and somewhat interact with dream overlays of the surrounding etheric area. However, if my lucidity is high enough, I always phase directly to the astral. Now where I end up varies depending upon what I focus on. Most of the time I go to visit a person or place. If I'm visiting a person, then my astral locale varies depending upon where they tend to be at the time.

Not sure if that helps or not tvos.

[Flannery]

Most dreams take place in the familiar territories of the Home Town.  Those with significant experience in other areas, School, the Military, or Employment, will have varied experiences, but still a return to the hometown can be expected.

True for me.

Someone could tell me - and I would be hard-pressed to have any satisfactory response to it - that I have built this school area, the area of my hometown, either in the Astral realm or in my unconscious.

The way it differs from the real thing is CONSISTENT from one trip to the next.

There is a certain continuity there, in other words -- although, of course, fluctuations have it be slightly different from one time to the next.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

This morning during early meditation I had a surprise when after pulling up through a void and clearing my vision, I expected to be in my living room and instead found myself in a nice cozy pub like tavern with uneven white plaster walls and oak beams. I haven't been in England for over 10 years, but it was like a really nice very old English pub.

The  first thought and feeling of surprise was, " this isn't my house" . I did some exploring, floating around, found some people outside to talk to. Very strange, I had to float down to them and get close to their faces (as in, in their faces) to understand what they were saying. They were very nice and patient with me.

I went back into the pub, and to a room with tables and chairs, where a few more people were sitting. Everyone was very passive and happy looking. I didn't want to just stand there and stare at them, so I went back out side to fly around and go site seeing over the hills and valleys. After a while, things started to go lucid dream like, then another suprise, a false awakening near the ceiling of some room I couldn't recognize, then back to normal, and a rush off to work.

[Lume]

Hey Tvos,

around 60% where I am sleeping (usually at my house where i have lived for the last 2 years)
30% at my home town (where i was for 18 years)
and the other 10% at totally random places and houses that I do not recognise

Lume

[David Warner]

thanx....

it would be interesting to see if there are trends to this... most of all my experiences take place at mom/dads home.

tvos

[FrostyRose]

Most of the time I start my projections at my childhood home. It's interesting. I guess I feel safe there, since I've lived there most of my life. I also had my first projections there.