Getting a little bored

[markulous]

For those who have been projecting a while, what do you do now that you have been projecting a while?

I started trying to learn last November and within a week or so I was able to project.  And since then I have had 100's of lucid dreams/obe's.  But now I tend to get a little bored.

I am grateful for everything it's just that being in the RTZ so many times kinda gets a little boring if not a lot happens.  I have gone to the astral plane a few times but it's like nothing meaningful happens, if you know what I mean.

It just seems like it's a extremely cool video game.  Like it's fun and all but even the most exciting video game can get boring if it's mostly the same stuff over and over.

[labouts]

I've had a lot of fun doing this:
start playing a videogame (action/adventure is the best) and leave your character idle but don't pause it.  Astral projection and go into the screen without thinking about it, like were going into a picture for a VR experience. now...play the game!

You just have to be creative and experiment with things. Try learning something like telekinesis and attempt to move things from the RTZ. Do the card experiment or something like it, or go for High level projections, Try to go to API or something. If you just think about it I'm sure you'll come up with things to do.

[RooJ]

It comes down to imagination, i have quite a powerful imagination and dont think id ever get bored with the gift you have.
This isnt just like one great video game, this is an infinite amount of different situations, any place you see on tv, any person you ever wanted to meet. With a gift like the ability to project whenever you want (which im guessing you have) you could learn much of the astral... theres plenty of experiments you could do that could give us all lots of insight into the workings of all this.

Ill likely post when ive had time to think more about your post.

>RooJ

P.S. Your welcome to share some of your techniques, it would be interesting to see what you do to project so frequently.

[David Warner]

Markulous,

In a way I felt the same thing back in the day when I was projecting all the time. I was too busy chasing tail and counting the amount of experiences vs. the quality and learning.

You might find my card experiment something to dive into:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19831&highlight=card

See if you can try to do partner exploration with another fellow projectionist. Try performing retrievals, or visit the departed from the physical and be a medium between the living. The list goes on but the most important thing that we project is to help humankind, not just for ourselves or a cool video game.

Tvos

[Dagalvyi]

I have to agree a little with everyone.
I have never found obe to be boring. The imagination keeps it from getting that way. There are so many things to do if you let your imagination take over.
Setting goal is a good proposal. Most of my obe's i go into with an idea of what I want to do or see.
For instance; I wanted to see what WWII Germany was like. I went, I saw, was shot, scared and back to my body to do something else.
I have tried to visit people I know are dead. Have had luck in some cases.
My point is that after you exit your body you need to explore and create. Use that imagination in ways you have never done before. Then you can never be bored.

[Kris]

try ap'ing to see how teh pyramids were built.. i bet it was aliens.. lolz

[markulous]

You all listed some good stuff to do when I am projecting but I can't really find anything(as Major Tom put it) meaningful.

I mean when I first started to project it was like, "Oh sweet!  I want to do this, and that, and OH this too, etc."  But now that I think about it, I can't think of anything that really turns me on, so to speak.

Maybe going to the akashic records or seeing what my past lives were but even then, it's like I am going to see that anyway when I die.  Plus I guess that was my main goal for so long and nothing ever happened, so maybe I kind of lost faith in it.

I can only search and search so long before I say, "Ah, the heck with it."  It could all be because of how I feel now(meaning this past year or so).  I feel kind of emotionless on most things in life.  I always try to do what's right but I really can't connect too much anymore.

P.S. Rooj, mainly what I do is first make sure I have at least 8 or 9 hours of sleep(sometimes more on the weekends) and make sure I raise my energy up through meditation.  And most of the time lucid dreams will happen almost every night.  Through them I can feel for my body and project outwards or explore the dream.  Although I really don't see much difference(if any) between the two anymore.

[David Warner]

Markulous

So what has happened in your life this last year that you feel emotionless, not goal orientated and purpose lost its meaning for projection? If you don't mind sharing with the group?

I think when you are ready to come back to the game, you'll feel inspired and desiring this even more. I believe that you've burned yourself out from all this mental astral work. You do need a rest, relaxation, and find yourself again. Your experience sounds exactly what I went through when I was projecting fluently. Another projection, far out experience, trying to verify all the time, make sense of this, what I am doing this for, and the list went on and on. I seriously needed a break from it but knew one day I would be thrown back into it whole heatedly.

There's nothing wrong with that - it says that "You're Human" like the rest of us. Go out and party, have a good time, focus in the physical world on your job, girlfriend/wife, etc..

Tvos

[markulous]

Well actually to be honest I don't really meditate like I should anymore and don't really intentionally OBE/lucid dream.  It just kind of happens no matter what.

I don't mind sharing anything at all.  Well I haven't really been very emotional to begin with.  But what kind of tipped the scales was the fact the a friend I had(a guy, who was also my martial arts instructor), and probably the person I trusted most, embezzled money from my mom and I never heard from him again.

Now I have had about 4 or 5 other really good friends in my life that have done similar things to me.  Plus my family is basically the same way.  So I don't have any friends, and the only family I care for is really my mom.

So it just seems to me that most people that I come across aren't trustworthy.  Maybe that's why?  I dunno!

[Boris]

Oh markulous, that is not normal at all. How in the world are you attracting dishonest people to you? Or connedting to them somehow? If your family is like that too, it is not a good sign.  You ned to seek out people of more spiritual nature, high minded people.

[David Warner]

Markulous,

Sorry to hear about that. I think we've all been through that one way or in shape and form. The people that are hurting around you've to be careful about and put up strong barriers and let them prove their trust.

The guy who embezzled money from you mom, eventually it will catch up to him in the end. You can repeat the same crime time and time again, but he'll be caught and justice will prevail.

Don't worry - we're your friends and will try to help you smile once again!

Tvos

[AndrewTheSinger]

Not just past lives but also things from the past of the Earth, the past of humankind, these things attract me a lot. Try to hear the first songs ever sung on the face of the planet, the first time certain words were spoken, and if you or anyone here dares, there's this ancient script called Linear A, which is one of the greatest mysteries of the past. It's an undeciphered code found in some Cretan workmanship.

For more info:

http://www.nb.no/baser/schoyen/4/4.4/441.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_A

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos_Disc

[Tombo]

Markulous, I'm also a little bored in my LD/OBE I guess our experiences are a lot a like.

My future goal will be the following:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18538&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

So basically leave the "normal" dream/OBE enviroment, Frank gives some detailed infos on how to do and I would be cool if somebody else would work on it. Maybe you find delight in the same endeavour, If you do please feed your experiences back on the thread mentioned.

BTW: you should start to meditate again, it's a gift.

[markulous]

Oh markulous, that is not normal at all. How in the world are you attracting dishonest people to you? Or connedting to them somehow? If your family is like that too, it is not a good sign.  You ned to seek out people of more spiritual nature, high minded people.

Well that's what I'm trying to do now.  But I have yet to met anyone that is remotely spiritual.  Everyone I see either is dishonest, addicted to some form of drug, or is just plain evil.  Most people think I am weird because I don't drink, never done any type of drug, that I am nice to everyone, or that I don't have sex until I get to know the person, etc.  It's like the world is backwards.

Sorry to hear about that. I think we've all been through that one way or in shape and form. The people that are hurting around you've to be careful about and put up strong barriers and let them prove their trust.

The guy who embezzled money from you mom, eventually it will catch up to him in the end. You can repeat the same crime time and time again, but he'll be caught and justice will prevail.

Don't worry - we're your friends and will try to help you smile once again!

Well I appreciate that.

See that's the thing I thought I have always put up barriers.  That's why I never had a lot of friends.  Maybe it's all just karma from a past life?

And I will check out all those links.  The focus 2 thingie sounds particularly interesting.

[Tombo]

I do not want to hook you up with any thing you don't like but the way describe your life it souds like a perfect way of living in a Buddhistic way of thinking.

So my suggestion would be to check if there is any vipassanna Meditation group close to you and to check them out. You may find some very nice people there with smilar interests.

There are dfintely more people like you around, you just have to find them!

[Mikael]

Maybe by developing your techniques to the point your feel they are perfect, you might find satisfaction by helping other people who cannot learn to astral project (because there is definitely no shortage of us on here), whether that's over this forum or teaching people you know, maybe you could teach your mum and the two of you could go on some pretty amazing holidays!