Recalling the feeling of a trance state and obtain it again

[DanishGuy]

As I go through a lot of material on astral projection I can understand that many experienced practitioners are able to recall a trance state, like the "floating" feeling that I have experienced myself, and then obtain it again in seconds.
Is that something that comes with time and meditation practice or can it be learned by beginners? and if so, how to do it?

Thanks for your time!

[Szaxx]

As you try different ways to do this, some work and others don't. You remember the good ones and hopefully get further each time you try. By remembering the feelings you can get to various stages and know you're doing well. Eventually you will be able to get deep into the trance state by simply willing the feeling.
I've recently gone directly to the astral with nothing but getting comfy and willing it to happen in one thought. It shocked me and I went from a perfectly developed scene I was in, back to the physical not believing I did it. It took less than a second.
I'll try this again when everything feels the same. It was magical. No phasing or meditation at all. Simply being very relaxed and comfy then thinking up a scene to go to . I pictured myself there in full awareness and click, I was.
This is a great last step to make. I hope it becomes repeatable then I can teach everyone to do the same. Some experience may be necessary initially.

[soarin12]

As I go through a lot of material on astral projection I can understand that many experienced practitioners are able to recall a trance state, like the "floating" feeling that I have experienced myself, and then obtain it again in seconds.
Is that something that comes with time and meditation practice or can it be learned by beginners? and if so, how to do it?

Thanks for your time!

I can do this often but not always.  I think the amount of sleep I've had does factor into it.  I could do it from my earliest days after I started projecting so don't lower your expectations for yourself just because you're new at it.  I don't think my explanation of how I do it has ever been particularly helpful to anyone but this is what I do.  I lie down, relax, close eyes, don't move, a song begins playing in my mind, I 'space out', my vision becomes 3-d within seconds, I passively watch any visuals I get, feel heavy, hear rushing noise, loose awareness of physical, then to AP.  The whole process often happens within seconds.  Once I projected within a second of closing my eyes.

[DanishGuy]

I think I did it last night after writing this post. Here's what happened:

-I lied down and closed my eyes.
-Fixed my intend and focus to go to that feeling og being in that trance state (like lying in a small boat in waves)
-Suddenly I was seeing 2 objects flying very fast in 3D landscape which I was trying to follow, and they where changing ther direction often.
-After focus on following for a short time I passed out and found myself in that floating state.

From the clock I would estimate that it only took 5-10 minutes compared with the 45 minutes it normally takes me to get into that state.
So beginners can do it too, but not like in seconds. But I'm pretty sure that it will come with practice.

[soarin12]

Excellent!  Well that certainly didn't take long!

[Astralzombie]

It does take time and experience but if you can learn to "capture" certain feelings and then recognize their onset, you will have a great advantage.

Just don't get caught in the trap of anticipating the feelings because anticipation is expectation and that is the greatest cause of most failed attempts.

Another thing to consider is that you will not always feel the same sensations when you are successful so keep that in mind.

The only "feeling" that I can honestly say I feel in every intentional phase is what I call being "locked in". It's that point where you are about to project and nothing can stop it until you are "out of body" at which point, fear and excitement can send you straight back.

The first few times I called it the "holy crap, I'm in it now" feeling, but that was back in the fearful days.

I'm sure at least a few know have had the same feeling from time to time but it happens every time for me.

I start to hear a buzz in my ears but it's more of a sensation than an actual noise. Then whatever hypnagogic images that I was seeing (or the blackness depending on the actual time) will disappear and I will see what I can only describe as thousands of glittery stars.

I call it being locked in because at that moment, neither fear or excitement stops the OOBE from occurring.

However, Like I said earlier, once you're out, fear and excitement can send you straight back. That's not cool but it's one of those things that you won't be able to deny to yourself and just having that "knowing" feeling is a great advantage as well.

[Astralzombie]

I don't think my explanation of how I do it has ever been particularly helpful to anyone but this is what I do.  I lie down, relax, close eyes, don't move, a song begins playing in my mind, I 'space out', my vision becomes 3-d within seconds, I passively watch any visuals I get, feel heavy, hear rushing noise, loose awareness of physical, then to AP.  The whole process often happens within seconds.  Once I projected within a second of closing my eyes.

If your method isn't helpful to someone then it's only because they are over thinking it. If they could just understand that it is as easy as you just said it was, there would be no need for this website.

I don't know what my "fastest" time is but I know it's minutes and not seconds and definitely not A second, so your advice should be helpful to everyone.

[Contenteo]

The same feeling that you have one coming out of a falling dream is essentially the exact same sensation when entering from F10 or F12 to F15.

It's a pretty vital sensation to recall if you are going to engage in a conscious exit OBE.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Szaxx]

That description is pretty good.
It's you and the blackness for a second or two if you've not mastered the way to hold on to it, longer if so.
The grainy blackness or starry look to it has a feel. It's this feel you should head for with or without a created scene.
I managed it again last night and stayed there for a while. It's calming and so easy to fall asleep in. Everything melts into noise and the dream begins. The sound of wind mixed with potatoes chips frying with added zings etc.
It's hypnogogic for sure but cuts out all the meditation and floaty uppy stuff.
It does take seconds. I hope I can make it a habit, once totally repeatable it will be posted.

[soarin12]

It does take time and experience but if you can learn to "capture" certain feelings and then recognize their onset, you will have a great advantage.

Just don't get caught in the trap of anticipating the feelings because anticipation is expectation and that is the greatest cause of most failed attempts.

Another thing to consider is that you will not always feel the same sensations when you are successful so keep that in mind.

The only "feeling" that I can honestly say I feel in every intentional phase is what I call being "locked in". It's that point where you are about to project and nothing can stop it until you are "out of body" at which point, fear and excitement can send you straight back.

The first few times I called it the "holy crap, I'm in it now" feeling, but that was back in the fearful days.

I'm sure at least a few know have had the same feeling from time to time but it happens every time for me.

I start to hear a buzz in my ears but it's more of a sensation than an actual noise. Then whatever hypnagogic images that I was seeing (or the blackness depending on the actual time) will disappear and I will see what I can only describe as thousands of glittery stars.

I call it being locked in because at that moment, neither fear or excitement stops the OOBE from occurring.

However, Like I said earlier, once you're out, fear and excitement can send you straight back. That's not cool but it's one of those things that you won't be able to deny to yourself and just having that "knowing" feeling is a great advantage as well.

I usually get that 'locked in' moment and see the stars too. --always in my intense trances where all the stages and sensations are really well defined, loud, and 'in my face' so to speak.  I also have lighter trances where the only way I'd know I was heading toward AP is that my vision has turned to a slightly lighter color, maybe greenish-yellow, and there is some movement and depth to it.  Probably also a slight feeling or 'knowing' that I was headed somewhere.  The first time I had one of those lighter ones, I was pretty shocked that the end result was an AP.  It was kind of nice to not have to go through all that intense, loud stuff.

The one sign post that I have that means I am capable of having an AP at that time is that my vision behind my eye lids turns from basically solid to a grainy, 3-d appearance.  If the 3-d doesn't offer itself within 30 sec. or so, then I don't waste my time trying to project.  My body isn't 'in the mood' and that's all there is to it.  I've tried to project at these times when I don't get the 3-d and I will just lay there forever with nothing. Pretty sure this all has to do with my sleep schedule.