I would aprecciate if you could wright the technique, step by step.
thanks
if its so incredibly hard than why use it? and if you promised not to tell, why are you telling?
Now I have not time to do that, but I will scann the pages of the book and attach them here as soon as possible.
JustLikeThePill
You misunderstood. I said that this technique was secret in time when Golden Dawn exsited that was before 100 years or more I dont know.
At 1930 or 1940 this technique became known to public , and wasnt Golden Dawn´s secret any more.
I dont say that this technique is difficult for all people.For people that visualise things very easy it is not difficult.
ohhh ok then cool. i thought it was some club or something.
Regarding Golden Dawn and AP,
I know that Golden Dawn tought a technique which is actually a form of phasing and predated Monroe by about 70 years. It involves visualising certain shapes, like a yellow circle on a blue background (not exactly that but you get the idea) and so on. If the individual visulised these for long enough he/she would find them selves able to move within it (in their mind's eye) and from there into the astral itself. There was a whole series of these shapes which opened up to various parts of the astral.
I don't think the technique you are describing is the same as this one of course. The above one is for direct access to the astral, what is now called 'phasing', whereas the technique you describe sounds like a method for OBE to the Realtime zone. I would be interested to hear more about it!
Regards,
Douglas
Yes I like to give this a shot!
I used something like that when I was into psionics (using things to help with psi stuff) for remote viewing. You made a thoughtform like an eyeball, tell it to relay pictures to your third eye, then move it out and to where you want it. But it was really like you were there, instead of watching it like a TV screen. And you still could feel your physical body. This technique sounds kind of like the golden dawn tech. Hmmmm....
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Originally posted by Gandalf
Regarding Golden Dawn and AP,
I know that Golden Dawn tought a technique which is actually a form of phasing and predated Monroe by about 70 years. It involves visualising certain shapes, like a yellow circle on a blue background (not exactly that but you get the idea) and so on. If the individual visulised these for long enough he/she would find them selves able to move within it (in their mind's eye) and from there into the astral itself. There was a whole series of these shapes which opened up to various parts of the astral.
That sounds a lot like the Magical Tattwa Cards I bought recently. Unfortunately, I've not had time to work with them yet. But the book that comes with them is fascinating. Here's a link to more info on the cards: http://www.llewellyn.com/trade/preview_book.php?pn=K472
Lasher
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Originally posted by Lasher
That sounds a lot like the Magical Tattwa Cards I bought recently. Unfortunately, I've not had time to work with them yet. But the book that comes with them is fascinating. Here's a link to more info on the cards: http://www.llewellyn.com/trade/preview_book.php?pn=K472
Lasher
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Heh this caught my attention!
"Astral projectionEasy to use, the Magical Tattwa Cards form a complete and comprehensive system for psychic development. This book and deck of cards form the basic building blocks of mystical attainment and magical self-developmenta system that has withstood the test of time for over 2,500 years."[:)]
Yes , this technigues you mentioned(Tattwa, And astral Doors) are similar.
This techniques leads you directly to astral plane, but technique I mentioned is projection to astral body but in physical world. In case this is not etheric projection or OBE , this is astral projection and very easy it is possible came from physical to astral environment.
All this techniques are described in book: J.H.Brennan--The Astral Projection Workbook (1989---You can find it in a library)
(Body of Light ,Monroe techniques,Tattwa, I Ching ,Astral Doorways ,Lucid Dreams,Medidatinon,Trance)
Here is the technique:
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Waaaah thank you very much !!!!!!![|)]
it looks difficult but worth the effort...
i promise to try !!!
Anybody ever tried this before ?
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Hej, Veliki_Grizli, je li to ona tehnika o kojoj si mi pisao?
Ups!
Is that the technique you were writing me about, how much succes did you have with it? Sounds great though, I'll give it a go.
Thanks,
Pan
Da to je ta tehnika, imam i hrvatsku verziju ,ak neznaš Engleski.
Did anybody read this technique , what is your opinion about that technique?
There is a variation of this technique and it involves technique called: Cuabalistic Cross(I am not sure about spelling).
This technique is a little different ,but it insres you to get to higher Astral Worlds.
i tried it this night and, surprisingly, it gave me the trance state but it was difficult for me to visualise clearly the place where i wanted to be, instead, i had lots of differents clear visions. One vision was a place in a desert, i could focus on it with a "without thinking" state of mind...and during less than one second i WAS in this place ! Wow. But my surprise and inexperience forced me to come back...[:O][|)]
I must precise that i didn't tried to visualise my body at the begining but a geometric form because i think that it is easier to visualise and as it is written in the scans you gave us, we can choose our shape in the astral, so...
Ma ne brini, imam engleski u malom prstu (više manje[:D]). Nego, kakva su tvoja iskustva s tom tehnikom, grizli?
U zadnje vrijeme nemam vremena za vježbanje , morem se pripremat za ispite.
I managed to create Astral double but I cant see him very clearly yet.
First of all thanks for the scans! [;)]
Then I would ask you a really simple question (treated 'till death on this forum! [:D]) about the visualisation: are you capable to keep a first person perspective of your astral double, or your mind (like mine does) keep changing from a 1° point to a 3rh point of view causing loss of concentration and focusing?
Havok
Havok I didnd undetstand what you wanted to say , but I can tell you that this technique or visualisation demands everyday practise. At first it is difficult to create in mind the whole astral double,and you can just visualise only parts of its body ,but not the whole.
When I first tried to visualise my room , I just managed to visualise some parts of room like part of the table but not the whole table ,or nor the whole part of the room.
Help for visualisation: Stand or sit in yout room and carefuly observe all the details of futniture in you room, you must be highly aware of your surrounding. People in general are very little aware of things and world around them. They just keep some problems or similar thoughts in their minds and walk in the street like not awake.
This exercise can help you to become easily aware of yourself in your dream to become lucid.
When you carefuly observe your room this starts the creation of your room in astral world , and this surrounding just pop up in your dream and you immediately become aware of yourself.
I wanted to ask you if, when you "imagine" your etheric-double, you see him from your point of view or if you visualise it from different angles (like a camera floating around the etheric body you're creating)...
And when you visualise your etheric body can you actually menage to SEE him like a mental-eye vision or you just keep "imagining" it?
Last question (critical one): DOES IT WORK?
I would like to hear some of your impressions about this technique.
Bye
Havok
I am familiar wirth this technique for a long time but I never find time to start practisintg.
This technique has lots of adventages: No deem trance ,you can project when ever you want(lots of practise required) ,becomes even more real than etheric projection.
Havok ,if are you from Italy , from what part of Italy you are?.
Did you ever heard of Damanhur and time traveling
I'm from the north-west of Italy...sorry but I've never heard about Damanhur...[:I]
BTW could you tell me if in the book you scanned there are more explainations of this technique?
Bye
Havok
Greetings LA FORET MAUVE,
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Originally posted by LA FORET MAUVE
i tried it this night and, surprisingly, it gave me the trance One vision was a place in a desert, i could focus on it with a "without thinking" state of mind...and during less than one second i WAS in this place ! Wow. But my surprise and inexperience forced me to come back...[:O][|)]
And this is an excellent example of how the Astral Locale will work.
Of course, with many people focussing on the same locale, the energies involved will be that much greater.
Speaking of which, shall we progress the Astral Pulse Island locale?
With best regards,
Adrian.
hmm....better to speak about that in the "locale" thread ! [;)]
I want to agree with the fact that visualising is an everyday practice. As i said before, instead of visualising my body, i visualise a geometric form (a triangle in fact), the first times i could see it in my imagination but since last night i can see it in my "mind's eye". The problem i am facing now is that at a certain point i feel that i have the choice to follow the path of the visions (feel that images can appear at this point of mental state) or follow the technique closely and visualise the place where i want to go...i can't visualise it as well as my triangle...
An interesting point is, although Velikigrizzly said that no trance is required, when i gaze the triangle, my body enters automatiquely in Trance state...effect of visualising or just a reflex my body learned with practice ?
Hehe sorry for my confusing english...[:I]
HAVOK
I think that everything about this technique is clear.Wright about thing that are not so clear to you. Yes maybe there are some other exercises for concetration before you start practise visualisation, but I repeat you must practise every day.
At first maybe it is better to visualise a simple objects like triangle or numbers in yout mind , and after a period of practising you start visalising things connected with this technique.
Try to find this book in library , I write the name of book on previous page.
LA FORET MAUVE
Something that mystified me befor is the meaning of word visualise.
Tis means to see things like when daydreaming but in order , you see onla what you want to see. When daydreaming pictures comes and goes without any order.
Greetings LA FORET MAUVE
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Originally posted by LA FORET MAUVE
hmm....better to speak about that in the "locale" thread ! [;)]
I want to agree with the fact that visualising is an everyday practice. As i said before, instead of visualising my body, i visualise a geometric form (a triangle in fact), the first times i could see it in my imagination but since last night i can see it in my "mind's eye". The problem i am facing now is that at a certain point i feel that i have the choice to follow the path of the visions (feel that images can appear at this point of mental state) or follow the technique closely and visualise the place where i want to go...i can't visualise it as well as my triangle...
An interesting point is, although Velikigrizzly said that no trance is required, when i gaze the triangle, my body enters automatiquely in Trance state...effect of visualising or just a reflex my body learned with practice ?
Hehe sorry for my confusing english...[:I]
Yes, we can continue this in the Astral Locale thread.
But nevertheless what you are saying is certainly relevant. Focussing on any image, even abstract, will lead you conscious awareness towards the Astral, or specifically away from the physical. At some stage you can phase where you want to go. However, if you maintain your focus on the Astral Locale, that is where you will go. As I said before, the more people doing this the better.
First though we need to finalise API, and that is where we go to the other thread.
With best regards,
Adrian.
Did anybody tried this technique ,have any progress?
Wright your experiences.
as for now, i was so tired when i went to bed that my practice was a little...well in most of the cases i felt asleep [:D]
but i must say that visualise is now my favorite way to fall in trance and obtain visuals. I do it in the metro ...nobody cares here in Tokyo, because everybody sleeps in the train haha[:D]
"Wright your experiences"...i like this sentence ! Wright is a member of Pink Floyd lol...the good word is "write", but i do maybe more mistakes than you so don't worry [|)]
Thought I would post something that I tried yesterday seemed to work pretty good for me, I know that the NEW system is not based off visulization but the great thing about astral work there is no one way to do things, some things work for some and not others so...I was doing my NEW work setting up in bed, and as I was stimulating my feet I started to think a bit about the Golden Dawn body of light technique, as I did this I thought of my double doing the same thing that I was, so as I visualized him, I put myself where he was across the room and finished my NEW work from his perspective, this did 2 things for me, I worked on raising energy and I also worked on my visualization skills, the result was I had stronger visulization of the double as I finished my NEW work up for the day, I dont really see any drawbacks to this? If anyone has an opinion on this, please reply. If you think its a good idea, I found it easier to concentrate on the body of light this way and my mind did not wander because I was working on my NEW also.
LA FORET MAUVE
This technique doues not require trance. You must not get in trance.
When I am more alert I visualise better then in trance state.
but i can't help it [8D]
...do you really think that the trance will alter the processus ? I doubt that, personnaly...
when i tried to do the energy work the way that i explained above I was not in a trance either..........
Has this technique died a death, or has anyone got any results with it?
Murt.
I just read the whole thread today and am eager to try the technique.
I believe I can visualise very well and that would present little trouble.
However, I think I'm still missing something here...
Does it give astral projection or etheric (real time) projection?
Grizli you said the projection can be more real than the etheric one, but what did you mean by that? As much as I understand you cannot see and hear other people in their physical form, right?
And are my eyes supposed to stay open throughout the whole projection?
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Does it give astral projection or etheric (real time) projection?
It can be used for astral and etheric projection: For beginners-- they usually visualise astral double in ther room or-- and when they succeed they find themselves in physical world---but astral double is astral body and it can be used for physical and for astral surroundings.
You must read that text I posted thoroughly, and many of your questions will be answered.
If you find yourselves in Astral surroundings you have to think about or imagine that physical suurroundings is around you and you will find yourself in physical world but you will be able to see astral entities(read the text)-----usually people inagine that hey are in their room and they find themselves there.
You probably ask yourselves if I can do this kind of projestion. I can nor yet, I had no time to practise, but I have read lots of bboks about this technique.
W.e. Butler wrights:
You have to imagine astral matter(blue colour like alchocol that burn--place a drop of alchocol on the table and burn it--you have to try to visualise it) going outside of you and forming astral double.(after practise you must to take this blue matter back in your body)
You must to locate your center of consciousness in your body wher you feel your "self", usually it is situated behind the toot of the nose, but it can be situated in Solar plexus too.
Soil under your feet is a place where energy from earth flows in your aura-the name of this centre is "earth cente".
When you breath taking a deep breaths, at the same time you pull energy from your "earth centre" and carry it to the place in your body where is centre of your consciousness.
when holding your breath you project etheric energy outside in the form of blue matter(astral double) you built before and in the same time ride(go) on the flow of force or energy from centre of consciousnes to your astral body.
This flow of energy you created is your silver cord.
People asaully have closed eyes while visualising or imaging
Many of the G.'.D.'. (Golden Dawn) techniques and teachings were released to the public with the Law of Thelema becoming the the core of the Secret Societies. Aleister Crowley is the key individual behind this.
You can find many and more of these 'sacred' and secret text here:
http://www.hermetic.com/
A key Thelemic site:
http://www.thelema.org
And last but not least, the A.'.A.'.s own website (Can you say 'everybody is online' or what? =):
http://www.ordoaa.org
It's taken me about a year's worth of research to come up with these sources, so enjoy! =D
Another order you might want to look into:
Ordo Tempeli Orientalis (Formerly, if I understand correctly, the Knight Templars.)
Hope it interests you as much as it does me. =)
Amadeth
Did you tried this technique?
I tried it today and suceeded. This is the first time I projected ever and only thanks to my great visualization abilities.
I wasnt about to project but was only practicing visualization in the morning and havent realized that I projected until I went to school.
I started this morning while still lying on the bed. I visualized myself walking in my room. It was hard at first to imagine that I was walking (vertical) since I was actually lying in bed (horizontal) but after a minute or two the strange feeling dissapeared. Then I tried the living room, bathroom and the kitchen.
All seemed fine. It became a bit harder when I walked out of my house since I didnt know what to expect. I imagined cars passing down the street but couldnt tell if it was real or just an imagination. Then I went few blocks away and stopped when I saw a green old car parked in someone's backyard. I didnt know if I just imagined it or it really was there, but I thought it would be a good idea to check it out when I go to school. On my way back I spotted another old car, but this one was white. After 20 minutes or so I "waked".
When I went to school later that day I went to check for the 2 cars I saw in my visualization. They were both there. Same colors, however the cars werent old. They were both quite new cars (mercedes and opel if I can recall). Also, I remember seeing a man working on my neighbor's house roof in my visualization although it was obvious that there were noone since the roof was complete.
I am not sure why some of those things were opposite than they should've been, but the cars were good enough proof to me.
Sorry for bad english, I was in a bit of hurry [|)]
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I tried it today and suceeded
The experience you described was not a projection. Your consciousness probably left in your physical body, but you get information of cars in the street. Read the text on 1st and second page I posted.
It is just first stadium of thes technique.
First stadium is practise of getting information of other places, and secind is making astral body and transfering consciousness to it.
I've been trying this tech. for the last 4 weeks. Ten mins of imagining the body, and about five creating the room. I'm definately getting results, albeit slowly.
The feeling of being in the room, while putting mind into the body, is getting more real, and is getting easier.
I found it difficult at the start, but now I can get into the body, and do the LBRP quite easily.
Still doesn't feel like true A.P. yet
Murt,
It appears that the pages he was hosting have gone. I was wondering if you could find a host to put these back up to, or if you could write down how to perform these techniques?
Thanks,
-Alex
Alex,
Tried to load the pages myself... no problem. Try again, if you still have a problem, get back to me, i copied them.
I have more valuble info on this techn. if you want i will post it.
There's alot more to the body of light method, than meets the eye [;)]
I'll try and load them again, but I would be very interested in your extended information.
If its not too much trouble I'd like to read it!
Thanks,
-Alex
1st page of this topic and I was already annoyed.
Apparantly in Golden Dawn they don't teach spelling now do they?
~FT
Murt Can you see your physical body, or get true information(object in the room) whan walking in other room.
Keep trying you are on a good way, this technique requires lots of training.
If you have some more informatin of this technique please send me on mail dslunjski@inet.hr . Thanks
I can send these pages that dissapeared on download area, but I have no time now, I will in next few days.
I found some other book that has better explanations of this technique: W.E.Butler--"Apprenticed to magic"
Fat_Turkey Yes they do, but spells are only a small help for conentration and visualisation, when doing changes to astral world , that will effect(cosequence) physical world.
Veliki, Ramiel,
Great to see this thread here.
As far as I am aware the chaldlaean Oracles say,... Stay not in the precipice, with the dross of Matter, for there is a place for thy Image in a realm ever splendid..
This is a reference to the higher, and lower Astral, and the fact that you can rise 'beyond the higher Astral, towards the formless divine fires of the Spiritual realms', using the Body of light.
Although creating the body of light takes time, apparently it is well worth it.. here are some advantages...
1. The body is created with your imagination. Your imagination moulds the 'matter' of the Astral plane into whatever shape you want, so if you create, a body of light, being made up of the 'material' of the astral plane, can enter those planes, quite easily, and more freely.
Also alter your personal circumstances, including finantial, with MUCH more power.
2.You can use it as a watcher, by sending it to a place, where it will watch and record what is going on, and report the info. back
3. It can also be used to guard something.
4. it is possible to transfer, disease to the body, and then treat illness.
5. it is possible to rebuild in your imagination, your body of light as you were when you were younger. And by a system of transference,
change back your physical body, into the body of light. A sort of reverse process, but this takes a great deal of advance knowledge and training.
6.As all things have a counterpart, on the planes, you can go, in your body of light , to the counterparts, and merge with them, and then control them.
With again, alot more power, for instance, merge with a negative organisaton, and control it's direction.
These are only the tip of the iceberg.
According to Blavatsky it is the Mayavi-rupa, the thought or dream body, the sheath of the mind and memory and emotion, known and named in Theurgy, as the Body of Light.
Hermes said about it- "thou shalt separate the fine from the gross, acting with great sagacity!"
I expected it to be slow work, so I'm not expecting much very soon, but it is building up very slowly. What I'm doing is getting an old tape cassette, marking it side A, and B, then fliping it about, so I don't know which side is which, and putting it behind a clock, on table, then using the body to test which side is facing up. So far no success yet, but it's early days.
What is happening is that it was hard to get into the body, and see, but although i can't see very well, my attention is not wandering, and it is slowly becoming more real.
I am performing the LBRP while in the body, for two reasons, one for protection, and they say you must train the body, to move, and function, just like a baby learning to co-ordinate for the first time.
The LBRP, uses actions, and words. Also the LBRP, replaces all the gross matter of the Physical, with higher more subtle matter, with is more similar to the planes, hence easier.
If your body is very dense, or heavy you will find it hard to get out.
It becomes dense over time, with negative energy, hence alot of younger people project- easily.
This is where the phrase, He/she is very dense, Or He/She are very thick... a reference to the fact that a person who is quite negative, and thus cut off from higher guidence, ect. These people seem untelligent, because they are negative and are literaly 'thick'.
I am walking slowly around the room, to create it in the astral, as well.
Also you can recite an invocation to help ' I tread upon high !'
' I tread upon the firmament of Nu !' ' I raise a flashing flame with the lightening of mine eye, ever rushing onwards in the splendour of the daily glorified Ra giving my life to the dwellers of Earth !' 'I rise, I rise, like a hawk of Gold !'
The first two are supposed to be good.
I have more info, and I'll put it up tomorrow.
What are full words of LBRP: What are name of techniques: Isnt maybe "Ritual of pentagram, or "Quabalistic cross" or sth. like that.
Murt Try to find this W:E.Butlers book in the library. It is preety good. I am sure that this book exist in Irish libraries: Book was originaly printed in England.
RamielJust load first page. My pages of book still exist on first page.
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Originally posted by Murt
thus cut off from higher guidence, ect. These people seem untelligent, because they are negative and are literaly 'thick'.
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I think a lot of people have negative energy thrust upon them. They then become like a butterfly trapped in a cocoon. Their higher energy is muffled by the garbage that surrounds them.
the flesh lies. An ugly stupid sounding person may have an intelligent eloquent soul. The 6ft gorgeous blond may be the most foul ignorant soul to walk the earth.
Xander
Veliki,
Lesser Banishing ritual of the Pentagram,
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7992
It's not so little, considering it's power, it like a detergent, gentle, but tough on stains!
There is a greater BRP, but it's not nessesary.
I said a some people are thick, negatve energy, lowers the frequency at which matter vibrates, making it more solid, or heavy, or dense/thick. Hence some people are thick, i.o.w. their matter is heavy. qualities like inspiration, creativity, intuition ect. are blocked, making them appear 'thick'.
Some people have negativity thrust upon them, but it is THEY, and no-one else who chooses to keep it, so, thick they remain.
The LBRP, gently expels negative energy, and gross matter, replacing it with finer more subtle 'matter'.
The planes are obviously on a higher frequency, so the higher your ferquency, the easier it is to enter those planes. LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE.
People with alot of negativity will find it very difficult to A.P.,
or people who have become too set in their ways, stagnation, is a form of negativity.
The LBPR, will give Noticeable results, within two weeks.
Provided the person uses their imagination a.m.a.p.
I'll post more info later.
Cheers,
Murt.
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1 Touch your forehead and say ATOR, ( Thou Art )
2 Touch your naval, and say MALKUTH, ( The Kingdom )
3 Touch your right shoulder and say VE-GEVURAH ( The Power )
4 Touch your left shoulder and say VE-GEDULAH ( And The Glory )
5 Clasp your hands together and say LE-OLAM ( Forever Amen )
According to some books I read: It isnt(instead) ATOR--ATEH
VE-gevurah--VE-GEBULAH
I have five different books, and I found in each one different spelling. I am not sure any more what is right, and what is wrong.
I don't think it really matters, Ve Gevurah, and ATOR have worked for me, and I have two books that say the words are right !
It will work, anyway.
The Body of light is not an Astral body, which gives life to the physical, is a thought or mental or dream body, made up of the material of the planes.
If the body is made up of the same 'stuff' as the planes, it follows it is an easy way to project, once it is formed.
Many sucessful projectors, use a body of light, and do not realize.
instead of your awareness travelling around, on it's own, it now has a body, which is more stable.
I'm open to correction, but isn't Air represeted , by Vayu, in the tattwa, so this corresponds to the intellect.
Therefore, imagine air in water, it is not too stable, and very flighty. But imagine travelling around in a bubble of water, in the ocean so to speak, much more stable, and kindred.
Aparently it is as easy to project, as walking around in your physical body. Quote- Regardie 'Sucess once reached, the transfer should be practiced again, and again, until eventually, the Magician can slip in and out of his physical frame, as an ordinary Man slips out of his Winter coat.'
You just transfer consiouness to the body.
It can also move at the speed of thought.
Murt.
Alot of people are raising their energy, using many different ways, which is very good. Like KI, or yoga, or meditation tapes, Bwgen ect.
I think they all have one similar goal, increase your vibratory rate. Making yourself relax, is living in the present, which basically increases your vibratory rate, lowering negativity in the process.
All these techniques, are excelent, but for those who are a bit more adventurous, the LBRP is a shortcut, to raising the rate your matter vibrates at.
These are the same instructions as you posted ealier Veliki, except a little different, from Regardie.
I have some instructions, that are more detailed than the ones below, I'll post them, when i get a chance....
Seating himself comfortably in a chair—or if he be trained in the assumption of a Yoga posture and is easy therein, so much the better—and tranquillizing his mind and emotions as far as may be possible, the Magician should try to imagine standing before him an exact
duplicate of his own body.
Should the Magician have engaged in much practice of the tattva symbols or the spiritual exercises of St. Ignatius and those described in a former section of this study, no great difficulty will be encountered in formulating this image.
The Theurgist should conceive vividly that a simulacrum of his own
body stands before him in the mind ; and that it is clothed as the
Magician is clothed, in magical robe with wand or sword, as the
case may be, and that it stands upright, or seated on a chair, or
curled in an easy and comfortable Asana. Should the Magician be
seated, the image likewise should be seen to be seated.
By a supreme effort of will that image should be made to move in the
mind and, observed very closely all the time, to rise standing
upright on its feet. The most difficult part of the Magician's task
now approaches. To the Body of Light he must transfer his own
consciousness, and it is this transfer which may prove a little
difficult, for sometimes it simply will not go.
In this case, exerting every ounce of his Will and putting forth
all the power of his Imagination as far as possible so that he imagines and wills himself to be in the thought-body, the Theurgist should cause it 10 perform various actions. The performance of some
such ritual as the Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram is a splendid
exercise, since by its means the Body of Light is made to move, to
turn on its own axis, and to utter words.
Persisted in, the Magician may find after several attempts that instead of this Body of Light performing the Ritual like an automaton while he observes, he himself will be performing it within the thought-body itself.
These methods loosen the girders of the soul, and open the fast-locked
gates of the mind.
quote:
The Body of light is not an Astral body
I dont agree.
Body of light is made of astral matter and it is astral body.
Don't Agree? ok..
Thats just what Isreal Regardie secretary to Crowley said, I think he meant a soul... Quote 'it is not really an Astral body, in the sence of a vital model, giving life to the physical, but it is a mental, or thought body, the direct vehicle of the ideal, and Spiritual faculties, whose substance is that of the higher, or divine astral.'
Who cares.
I have better instructions, to bring this body to life, if anyone wants them, please let me know.
Murt.
Thanks for the e-mails, I'll post it here on the forum.
Ihavn't got time right now sorry... I'l put it up tomorrow, ok?
Murt
Hello people, have, any progres whit this technique, lots of time have passed from last post, I presume you have lots of good experiences.... wright about please
Hey -
Nice technique! I'm just getting interested in Tattwa (Tattva) visualisation and searching for it, I came across this thread.
About the Body of Light - I was quite impressed and I found an online copy and formatted it in case anyone wants to print it out.
Here it is:
http://www.geocities.com/vienna/5373/esoteric/body-of-light.htm
Cheers,
Steppenwolf :)
Thanks for technique,
Can you wrighr your experiences using this technique
Everybody on this forum talks about the neat sleep or trance techniques. This techniques mostly causes vibrations or similar sensations, but there is sime other technique from Golden Down ,that has this name: The body of light.
This technique does not required deep trance states, when you you practise this technique you could move your hand ,and you are aware of your physical body,but not necessary always--read further.
The base of this technique is creation of adtral body in your mind using visulisation ,and replacing your consciousness from physical to astral double(this is the hardest part of technique)
But theree is something mirraculous: At the beginning of prectise for first few projections you are conscious of your physical body ,but after somethig amazing occurs. You loose the consciousness of your physical body, and projection becomes more real than with some other projection techniques that require deep trance.
This technique is pretty difficult , and everyday practise for some people needs a few years.
If you want I can wright down the whole step by step practise procedure.
This technique was highly valued at Golden Down community ,and there was a swear of silence , and nobody must not talk about this technique outside.