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blis

Dont know if this qualifies as a technique exactly but it just got me over a three month obe dry patch.

I'm currently reading bruce moen's book 'voyages into the unknown', and in it he mentions that when he first started talking to his I-There he had to use NVC.

So I decided to ask my I-There or subconcious or whatever for an obe.

I visualised myself on my knees with my hands together as if praying with a look of anguished desperation on my face. I then visualised myself floating up out of my sleeping body flying up to the moon and doing a little dance of joy on the moon. I went back and forth between the two for a couple of minutes.

Two nights later I woke up paralysed, got out of my body and went for a fly around outside. Still cant manage to fly fast or high enough to get to the moon but I'm sure I'll get there eventually.

When I woke up again I thought I should let my subconcious or I-There or whatever know that it had interpeted me correctly so I replayed the visualisation of me asking for an obe and at the part where I get to the moon I overlayed a big green tick over everything. To show my gratitude and how much it meant to me I then sent an NVC for 'I love you'. A bit soppy perhaps but it meant a lot to me.

I also feel I should mention something glaringly obvious that I figured out just incase theres someone else out there with the same problem. I've woken up paralysed so many times and only just figured out how to get out of my body when in that state. The problem was that I wasnt keeping my eyes closed! I'd wake up, unable to move a muscle except my eyelids. When I'd close my eyes it would feel like I was able to move again so I'd open my eyes only to find I was still paralysed and in the same position. I used to go back and forth like this until I finally woke up. Now I keep my eyes clamped shut, feel my way out of the building and before long I get my astral sight. To think of how many more obe's I'd have had if I only kept my eyes shut!

NoY

Congrats im sure your post will help alot of people  8-)

:NoY:

blis

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Wow this asking thing must have had a big effect on me cause I just phased for the first time this morning and its only been six days since I asked.

I say the first time but I did have a WILD once and now I'm starting to think phasing and WILDing might be the same thing or at least very similar.

What exactly is the difference?

I woke up too early this morning, couldnt get back to sleep so tried to have an obe. I got tired of making an effort so tried to phase instead with the more passive approach of just noticing. Started sort of seeing imagery but not full blown vision. My awareness kept coming back to my body too much and spoiling it. Didnt get frustrated though, nothing better to do at that time of the morning so I just stayed still and kept at it.

The imagery was getting more and more solid and I was becoming less and less aware of my body each time I remembered it. After a while I became fully immersed in what I thought was an astral environment. I flew around for a while untill I saw someone I know from real life which made me pause. If I'm imagining people from my life does that mean I'm having a WILD instead of phasing I thought.

Questioning my reality like that brought my awareness back to my body again but not enough to fully wake me up. I could feel my body and that my eyelids were closed but I could still see. This was only the second time I've had astral sight while still being stuck in my body. I sat there for a bit just thinking how cool my arm looked as I waved it infront of my face. It was like when the predator has his cloaking device turned on.

Wasnt able to get any more than my arm out of body so for the first time ever I asked for the aid of a helper. Woah! Suddenly something was pushing my legs up towards me into the foetal position. I almost freaked out but the fact that nothing had happened till I asked kept me calm enough. Then the duvet started moving in waves from the side of the bed towards me like it was trying to push me off the side of the bed. The duvet was making quite a bit of noise and I was worried the people in the other room might hear it(silly I know). So to stop it all I just somehow phased myself out of that reality and into another. No idea how I did it but I did it very quickly.

From where I was I tried visiting a place in the RTZ by thinking about it. I got to a version of that place but it looked like hundreds of years later as there was just a tiny amount of ruins left of the building(its a massive sandstone building) and the landscape had changed alot. I wanted the building to be as it is now and somehow it suddenly was. I was trying to fly up to the top of it when I became aware of my body again.

Didnt move when I came back to my body. Did the noticing thing and phased in and out several more times before I decided to get up.

Sorry for the long post. I didnt intend to write so much. Just wanted to ask what the difference between phasing and WILDing is and what other people experience if they try to visit a real life place when they're phasing.