turmoil and unrest = weird sexual shiva dreams and odd obe's

[Fourthdimension]

Hi,

Well unfortunatly there has been some distress or revisted problems from my early life that has reappeared again without going into much detail and on they other hand i have been broken up with my girlfriend who i love and have been with for a long while and some times when i get a free moment i fight away all the negativity that sorounds me by imagining and fantasying an  escape from it all a fresh start .i would nt tell you this if i did nt think it was relevant.

but lately i have been having very lucid dream or obe's that were sexually orinated and very weird. I will try to describe them without going into to sexual details.

i start by lying down and doing breath work and then energy work and then trnace work followed by memory space type techniques during doing this i try to fall into a kinda sleep with consious thoughts so that i am not to consious to be unrelaxed.

i get into a dream state and usally there is a person from the past or who i know recently there and it feels like i am out of my body and then it usally becomes very obscure and hard to rember apart from the knoiwledge that i engaged in sexual intercourse or something with them.

i donbt move my limbs to do it tho or to move i just think of it and my body just follows my thoughts without any real effort but i am consious alot of the time and can even wake myself up and then go back ionto the obe to the same point and location

the trouble is the people who i am with is in a diffrent location then they would be at that time and at a diffrent time then i am at that time for instance in the obe it is night but here it is day.

other obe's would be i visited lots of shiva type looking girls but they only have two arms and or indian and the room is scattered with velvet pillows and soft meterials and these women or naked and asking me to take part in sexual activites with them and so i do and i start pleasuring her and she opens her legs and this face suspended on a cord floats up from near her gentiles attached to her and talks and acts indepnedantly to her as if it is another soul.

if the latter is only a dream i cannot think of what would have influenced it.

can someone please help and tell me what these are

[CFTraveler]

The first part of the dream made me think of an impending Kundalini event.
The second part, I'm not so sure of.
When the dreams are over, how do you feel?

[Fourthdimension]

what is an impending kunalini event?

when it is over i feel like a longing to be back in the dream/obe as if its a part of me. and the seual intercourse feels like an expression of love rather than obscentiy. i dont mean to be rude but usally if people have sexual dreams they end up waking up . uhm u know what i mean they end up like erect n stuff when they wake up but i dont during these i just wake up and feel like i am missing something vital from my everyday life i mean not sex haha but love.

lmao thanks

[Fourthdimension]

cft i dont no much about kundalini but i just searched it up and think i understand the little of the basics anyways i found this site which describes the symptoms of kundalini as below

LAYA YOGA

Inner visions and lights, flames, geometric shapes. Visions of deities, or saints. Dream-scenes. Inner sounds, celestial music, bird sounds, animal sounds. Buzzing or humming in the ears. Inner voices. Spontaneous mantras. Speaking in tongues or foreign languages. Smell of perfume arises. Transcendental vision, everything illuminated scintillating, vibrating. Dreams and visions in transcendental vision. Atom bomb dreams. Temporary loss of eyesight.

BHAKTI YOGA

Love with no object arises. Devotion. Sublime gratitude. Uncommon compassion and understanding. Tolerance and patience for "What Is." Enormous faith accompanies the bliss. Transcendence of reactive patterns, social conditioning and egoic habits. Intense sexual arousal without provocation. Intensified sexual and sensoral pleasure. Feeling of gaseous bubbles arising from reproductive organs, champagne pelvis. Feeling of radiating ambrosial bliss, an aura of nectar. Heat, sweat. Strange activity and bliss in different areas of the head at different times. Sensations of blissful honey moving through brain, spine and connecting heart to other parts of the body. Traveling bliss, or pervasive bliss, rapture. Spontaneous sexual ecstasy with no stimulation. Increased ESP, precognitive dreams, telepathy. Bio-location of loved one through heart's navigation. Alchemical preparation for future unknown events, ie: translocal transtime development. Linear time transcended. Feeling of entire life reaching a nexus point in time. Heightened senses. Hyper-sensitive. Field of self widens, peripheral awareness increases. Exquisite awareness of one's environment and others. Ability to affect energetic states and promote heart expansion in others via sympathetic resonance.

JNANA YOGA

Deep questions and answers arise. Spontaneous mystic poetry that writes itself. Important insights, eurekas. Scientific and creative solutions. The Herald of the Muse appearing as a sound or voice in the upper right-brain field prior to the emergence of information. Increased creativity and expression. Intensified understanding. Finer focus on "the most important thing." Compulsive need to write.

well i think i might be either jnana or laya i mean am not sure at all but as i was reading through them i found a lot of things in common i ll explain starting with laya

geometric shapes. . Dream-scenes. Inner sounds, celestial music, bird sounds, animal sounds. Buzzing or humming in the ears. Inner voices. Spontaneous mantras. Speaking in tongues or foreign languages.   , vibrating. Temporary loss of eyesight.

i get really vivid hypongogic imagery so mabye that covers geometic shapes. i have really vivid dream states and even learn things though them so that covers dream scenes. i sometimes almost fall asleep to the sound of music but it aint music at all  its hard to explain and during trance i feel as if someone is talking to me and i talk back but can never recall the convo. i usally end up repeating certain phrases to myself so that could count as mantra and i can speak alot of diffrent lanugages and get vibrating but here is the weirdest the loss of eye sight

sometimes it feels like theres a tele without reception turned on in front of my eyes and all i can see is black and grey dots with an intense buzzing  and it makes me feel light headed and cant see anything oh and i usally get buzzing in my ears that i can recreate at any time or make it go away at any time

as for jhana
Deep questions and answers arise. Spontaneous mystic poetry that writes itself. Important insights, eurekas. Scientific and creative solutions. The Herald of the Muse appearing as a sound or voice in the upper right-brain field prior to the emergence of information. Increased creativity and expression. Intensified understanding. Finer focus on "the most important thing." Compulsive need to write

i really do question very deep and do get answers from asking myself as well as cft haha. i write poetry that i have won high awards for but it feels almost as if i did nt right them cause i cannot create them and right a brilliant piece at will i just get this urge to write and its ually about peace and warriors fighting for love i ll post them if anyone wants to read

i mean i dont know what laya or jnana means? what do they mean cft and which one do you think i fall under if any?

thanks

[CFTraveler]

Well, the Kundalini is an energetic event that describes the re-wiring of the energy body to accomodate more capacity.  Like you are born with an energy quotient, and as you study, learn, exercise, move energy, the energy body then changes to accomodate it's demands.  It's like working out and getting bigger, or faster, etc.  Theoretically it has been described by ancient indian cosmology/theology as a serpent (female energy) who lies at the base of the energy body at the earth chakra, who becomes aroused and starts to climb up the central channel until it meets the male energy (shiva) and when they meet at the crown some exciting stuff happens.  Mind-blowing stuff.  Because at that time the earth aspects and the 'heaven' aspects become one and the same.
So the levels you have posted would describe the symptoms that a person has as the energy body continues to 'fire up' with new connections, and stronger connections, as the "snake comes up the central channel".  Here you can see how the chakras become activated giving you the symptoms.

Now, many people can have an active Kundalini, and not have a raising- most energy work/meditation will cause everything to 'perk up' and your innate abilities to sharpen up, so it takes dedication and practice to actually get it up there- however, some people, for a variety of reasons, get the whole shebang all at once, and think they're going crazy.
Because the snake image is so prevalent in this mythology, I believe it can cross over cultural conditioning (via the collective unconscious) so that someone who has never heard of Kundalini can have snake dreams and have it mean something in those terms, and your description caused the image- it jumped out at me intuitively.
 
That's my fancy way of saying it's what came to mind as I read your post.

The terms you used are approaches to working the energy body, so whichever one suits you is the one that you should look into.
But really, it sounds like you are already a phaser (your descriptions of trance symptoms make me think so) so you're already doing something with your energetic system.
http://www.sacoriver.net/~johann/humananda/yogapath.html

[Fourthdimension]

Thank you for the help cft.

What was significant about my dream to make u think it was related to kundalini?

What trance symptons make you think i am a phaser?

What is a phaser?

thank you

[CFTraveler]

Thank you for the help cft.

What was significant about my dream to make u think it was related to kundalini?

The sexual nature of them, what you called them (shiva girl) and the 'head on cord' image made me think of a Kundalini cobra.  Like I said, it was an insight, not necessarily an interpretation.

What trance symptons make you think i am a phaser?

These:

You wrote:
i get really vivid hypongogic imagery so mabye that covers geometic shapes. i have really vivid dream states and even learn things though them so that covers dream scenes. i sometimes almost fall asleep to the sound of music but it aint music at all  its hard to explain and during trance i feel as if someone is talking to me and i talk back but can never recall the convo. i usally end up repeating certain phrases to myself so that could count as mantra and i can speak alot of diffrent lanugages and get vibrating but here is the weirdest the loss of eye sight

sometimes it feels like theres a tele without reception turned on in front of my eyes and all i can see is black and grey dots with an intense buzzing  and it makes me feel light headed and cant see anything oh and i usally get buzzing in my ears that i can recreate at any time or make it go away at any time

The telly-snow effect resembles a vision screen that a phaser can use to merge into.
And, a phaser is someone who phases easily.
As in phasing, it's the way some people merge into the astral, of which there are numerous threads in this forum.