I tried something different..result=paralysis

[AndrewTheSinger]

Cool, you easily got in touch with your dream body.
Thanks for posting.

[Zarklon]

hehe , that didnt sound very promising =P  Can anything I managed to do help me project ? What exactly does that mean and how can I benefit from .. getting in touch with my "dream body"  ?  is the dream body same as astral body ?

[kmd242]

I would feel positive about that experience. When I first starting having spontaneous OBE at the age of 14, i most def. thought of it as being paralyzed, but came to understand i was out of body, but was so new to it that i didnt know how to move yet.
It became a real fright for me until i searched and found "Astral Dynamics" and embraced and now enjoyed all aspects of it.

[Zarklon]

this is what gets me ... I heard in the treatise on OOBE that you should like .. move with your mind and stuff .. well , why do I hear that some people that go astral have a hard time sometimes figuring out if its real or astral and they dont move with their mind at all .. itsl ike moving with their phsycal body but instead its their astral one .. IN the treaties it explains how you have to think about moving .. doesnt it ?   So when someone said that "When you get paralysis you should try moving with every ounce of energy you have until you break free from your physical *even though it doesnt respond to movement* "  could they be all wrong or what ?  When you go astral is it more like movin in physical or is it totally different? I'm confused now ... http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_evil.gif" border=0>

Can anyone clarify this for me  ?Thanks

[AndrewTheSinger]

Yes, of course it will help you. For you to move in the astral you must first acknowledge and be your dream body. Once you become your dream body you can change your point of awareness and make it move to wherever you want.

Ya, you may call it astral body. Next time you're in that body try to feel yourself floating away from where your physical body is, maybe to the other corner of the room, that would be easier.

[amcturbo]

Hi Devin,
Thank you for sharing your experience with the group, that's great!  What you did seems so simple it's silly ... and is probably why some of us never thought to even try that technique.  Very cool!  I'll use it and see what my results are!

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Zarklon:
this is what gets me ... I heard in the treatise on OOBE that you should like .. move with your mind and stuff .. well , why do I hear that some people that go astral have a hard time sometimes figuring out if its real or astral and they dont move with their mind at all .. itsl ike moving with their phsycal body but instead its their astral one .. IN the treaties it explains how you have to think about moving .. doesnt it ?   So when someone said that "When you get paralysis you should try moving with every ounce of energy you have until you break free from your physical *even though it doesnt respond to movement* "  could they be all wrong or what ?  When you go astral is it more like movin in physical or is it totally different? I'm confused now ... http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_evil.gif" border=0>

Can anyone clarify this for me  ?Thanks

Zarklon.....

I know it sounds confusing....that is, until you find yourself doing it.  I think once you're in this altered state of consiousness, a lot of the movement and motor skills come naturally.  After all, we're all spiritual beings by nature.

To try and answer your question, you are indeed moving by thought alone, but if you think about it, this isn't any different than the physical realm.  

You see, we're all indoctrinated from birth to believe that in order to get from point A to point B, our legs take us there.  But everything begins with a thought, in your mind.  You think about getting something a drink, you tell yourself to go, and your body just follows.  

It's the same in the astral.  You think about walking through a wall, you tell yourself to go, and your astral body just follows.  The reason why many of us find it hard to distinguish between the real worl and the astral is that a lot of the same, physical like sensations still carry over.  Solid things still feel solid.  People and buildings and cars still exist.  For all intents and purposes, it can look exactly as the real world looks now.  

The only difference is that there is a knowing that you're not in your physical body, but that somehow, your consciousness is detached from it.  It's quite amazing.




Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
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[Zarklon]

thanks Jeff , you always have valuable info for me when I post  .. heres something else that I just remembered doing .. when I was getting paralysis one night , I either had my eyes open somehow , or I had astral vision .. I couldnt distinguish between the two but anway .. I saw the other corner of my room and though to myself .. I want to float there .. so I tried to imagine that corner getting closer to me .. or me floating towards it and I heard a noise like ..a purring sound coming from my head .. kinda like I was stuck to my physical body and everytime I tried to move to the corner , I would hear it and it was stopping me.. when I quit trying to float there .. the sound and feeling went away .. when I tried to float there again .. it would start up ..

What could that possibly be ? Has anyone had that ?  I think it was my astral bdy trying to come out or something but I was just stuck and it kept zapping me back before I could get even an inch out =P  Does this sound normal to anyone?

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Zarklon:
What could that possibly be ? Has anyone had that ?  I think it was my astral bdy trying to come out or something but I was just stuck and it kept zapping me back before I could get even an inch out =P  Does this sound normal to anyone?

You know, a person should always go with their first instincts!  You said exactly what I was going to say.  It sounds to me like you were trying to separate, but you were focusing on the membrane that you pass through from physical to astral, if that makes any sense.

On many occasions, when I've analyzed the sounds I hear when separating, it sounds very electric.  It almost sounds the way those light sabers sounded in Star Wars when they were turned on.

I've also noticed a sound similar to this when I pass through solid objects.  

Anyway, I wouldn't worry....it's completely normal.




Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
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[Zarklon]

haha yea .. it sounded like light sabers .. I realize what yer sayin about the membranes.  I think I'll just try to kick myself outta the paralysis if it happends and see if that makes me fly out into the astral.  If I could get to the point where I cant fly out but Im' getting that sound , then I'll examine it more closely.  Thanks

[Zarklon]

ok.. I was doing the breath awareness again .. but only for a minute or so .. then I decided to go on an imagine myself lieing down in another part of the room (first person).. I tried as hard as  Icould to really try to FEEL myself there in hopes of drawing my astral body there... well that didnt work well ... nothing happened.. so I thought  "Where can I try to imagine myself lieing down .. and actually make myself feel like I'm there..?"   then I thought .. My bed ! Which is where I'm currently laying down ... SO then I imagined myself lieing down right where I was , in first person .. and when I did that , I dunno if It was a centimeter off or what but I tried to imagine my self in first person right hwere I was as best as I could and I instantly lost my hearing .. I like .. went deaf .. then felt like i was floating .. well .. FLYING backwards in a tunnel sorta fast .. a tunnel that I couldnt see cause I had my eyes closed .. thats jst the feeling I got .. Then I decided to try the "sit up " method in hopes of doing it in astral instead of my physical body sitting up .. But I was paralyzed totally .. this surprised me since I didnt get vibrations ... also .. somehwere in between this process , I heard what sounded like the brainwave generator program .. a pulsing tone sorta noise... after I had tried to sit up , it broke the trance I was in and I jst got up and got straight on my computer.  This was early in the morning after I was kinda awake for 10 minutes just chillin in the bed after waking up on my own ( no alarm nothin)..  

      I'm suggesting to you guys to try that method .. imagine yourself in first person right wher you are lieing down .. hell dont try hard at all since you can already feel yourself there .. just try to create a double and maybe if it doesnt work , try imagining yourself a few inches over to the left or right ... or if it comes easier .. maybe a few inches or feet above?  I dunno , I jst imagined myself right inside my body in first person and got the feelings.  Good luck .. I kinda got a strong sense that I should let everyone know about this after I did it. I dunno if it was a sign or what .. Cya!