Hello Ronaldo
Well I have to admit it...for once you are normal Ronaldo [:D]
Good luck lucid dreaming [;)]
hi krome
so r u telling me that this is the normal for lucid dreams??
i am particulary interested in your opinion because u have had an experience with the holy spirit i am not perfect i have some pervie strange sexual prefrances and to b honest i don't no where they come from? i believe that god and jesus is really there and he can release me from this i don't think the things i'm into is normal but how do i find the lord?
Hello Ronaldo
There are so many different degrees of focused awareness in lucid dreams but if your got consciouse thoughts them your lucid even if the suroundings are still dream like ,strange. Your degree of awareness controls your ablity to interact in that environment. I'm not that good at becoming lucid myself lately the last time was a couple of days ago and I all I thought was 'I'm lucid.. I have to get more focused', so I looked at me feet. That was all I remember so if you can think to jump out the window your in business. It's a great start Ronaldo to all the possable experiences that lucid dreaming can open for you Good luck [:)]
hi krome
please help me with the holy spirit thing i have got friends who r born again they give me lectures they tell me that i have allowed demons into me by allowing concious astral projections and thats maybe why i have strange sexual prefrences. u have had experiences with the holy spirit born again the full works but u have still experienced astral projection and have come 2 believe that this is totally natural like i said b4 i beleive in god and jesus i have asked god into my life many times and it has come totally from the heart but nothing has happened i feel like there is something missing in my life and that god maybe the answer but how do i find him.
please answer my reply because u r the only spirit filled person i have come across who has an open mind on this subject my friends just tell me that astral projection is bad and if i carry on doing it conciously i'll go to hell they don't understand that this has been a totally natural occurrence all my life
do you have a flat eric doll? where did u get it [:O]
lol, how do u know about flat eric [:D]
Hello Ronaldo
Christain belief systems are very diverse even concerning recieving the Holy Spirit. I can't say that a person has the Holy Spirit with certainty without evidence, The bible says speaking in tongues is not for thoughs that believe but for the unbelieving, hince validation of the Holy Spirits presence . If they believe they are Spirit filled without having any validation then good for them. I was unbelieving and needed proof.That said to be born again into Christ, recieving the Holy Spirit IMO you have to surrender your old life , leave it in the waters of baptism and start life new following the beliefs set out in the bible but not of mans interptation or rules! once you are Spirit filled trust in God and not everything that you read or hear it is between you and God first and formost. So you will have to change some things if You think they're wrong because what you think is sin (wrong) then it is sin for you to do it only because it becomes self condemnation a blockage/wall between you and the Father. I wish I could be there to help you more with this I can only say ask God to help you ,show you in some way as to who will help you the most but not blindly, don't trust ppl we are all wrong at some point. Find Spirit filled ppl that show truly that they are spirit filled suss them out properly if they have nothing to hide then it shouldn't bother them. Then get baptised by full immersion and expect Christ to live up to his end of the bargain.As to your friends beliefs about demons and such if they believe it then so be it for them but you don't have to share that belief, simple really isn't it .
Keep trying to AP and ask Jesus in person whether your allow to be there in the astral planes or not...all mistakes will be forgiven so you can't lose any thing by asking in person right [;)].
Good luck Ronaldo
Hi Krome
thats the thing i found confusing my friends said ask god if the ability to astral project was from him and if if it wasn't ask him to take the ability away. i asked and nothing has changed i still have astral projections??
when i told my friends about this they said that they would pray for me and that i should study the bible
i don't really know anything but i assumed that god would help someone who asked for his help but r so trapped, they know they do stupid things but r unable to help themselves. thats me, thats my biggest problem altough i want to i can't help myself i'm trapped in a distructive cycle that i can't change although i really want to. i read in the bible knock and the door will be opened. i keep knocking but i never get a reply
Hi krome
could u help me on this please I'd really appreciate some advice
Hello Ronaldo
Sorry mate I was busy the other day and couldn't reply .
You have all the answers in these forums Ronaldo about God, enlightenment, Alien influences how to deal with negativity from ppl and spiritual. I noticed your friends said ask God "yes or no" to oobe ?. You received your answer from God and still question!! even more interesting is how they are now praying for you ...? to not oobe!.
IMO you have the answers within you already and asking others only clouds your own truth thats right for you.
If your doing things that you dislike and fill bad about it, IMO that is your shadow and you have to confront it and deal with it like everyone else ...I don't mean to sound hash but thats just what we have to do to progress spiritualy God will not take this away it is something we all have to over come to be stronger and learn from it so once over come we will not fall back into the same trap.
You have something they don't Ronaldo the chance to AP without baggage (belief system).I'll give you example if one of your friends OOb'ed and confronted there shadow they would screem demon and would think 'what I done wrong in Gods eyes to oob I must be possessed evil'... and their life's belief system is in chaos. I know well the scriptures in the Bible about the spirit realms and how we shouldn't concern ourselfs with it. but remember the Bible has mistakes, has been changed by 'man' to control the masses. If you look at the Bible like a recipe book to recieve the Holy Spirit then if followed you will recieve but ppl add and take away to finaly have the out come that was intened Spirit filled. But if one leaves out something and then argues with everyone that the out come is different ...hmmm human nature I suppose and the sauce of much hatred contrary to the Bibles existance which is to evolve as God did throughtout the pagers and human history. IMO!!![;)]
Know what you want Ronaldo and stand firm to achieve it for yourself.If you oobe why fight it learn from it use it to grow,evolve ppl's belief are just that 'beliefs' as is mine. Astral pulse is a deep pool of wisdom and knowledge as is life in general to find ourself and learn. If you want to change something in your life you dislike remove yourself from it somehow take back control over it wether you go on a retreat or fast just make a stand and don't condemn yourself if you faulter until you succeed. If you see the problem you also see the answer.In conclusion be kind to yourself you will be the person you want to be with persistance and understanding of yourself. I hope I helped in some way Ronaldo good luck
Hi Krome
you've been a great help
thanks[:D]
ronaldo you need to step back and figure things out for yourself. If you find christianity is the answer then thats fine but make an informed decision. Dont run there because you think you're sinning. Many of your sexual urges are stronger because you think they're wrong and feel guilt over them.
All I'm saying is finding "the holy spirit" may be the answer. Many christians will tell you its the only answer. Its just hard to watch someone buying into a lot of this stuff out of fear of being a sinner. Thats the biggest converter (sp?) to that religion.
kromeknight had some good advice there about the shadow etc, you might want to look into that. But be careful of your friends who are putting all this guilt on you. Most often people like that have ulterior motives.. they think its their duty to convert and they will use whatever they know you feel guilty about to do so.
Hello Goingslow
LoL I know what you mean I've often seen Christians converge on a person like a shark feeding frenzy. hmmm the memorys come flooding back [;)] great to have your piont of view again Goingslow [:D]
thanks Kromeknight I appreciate you saying that.
You should read an Edgar Cayce book Ronaldo, if you havn't already. He was a christian pyschic.
Hi
i'm no stranger to astral projection but i've had no experience with lucid dreams
anyway the other i became aware that i was dreaming it was really strange i suddenly became aware that i was dreaming and i was in the hall in my flat but there was no front door so i went onto the stairs and jumped out the window then my body started to vibrate as it always does before a projection but i must have lost conciousness because thats all i remember
i must mention that when i became concious in the dream it didn't really feel real i was just aware i was dreaming is this normal??
ronaldo