please help me on astral projection

Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 11:05:39

Next time just relax and mabey you will see something.[

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zjrules · October 11, 2003, 11:19:35

ok,but was that shaking feeling astral projection,and leaving my body??? someone please replie thanks

rodentmouse · October 11, 2003, 12:44:37

id say the sinking feeling was just your body relaxing, its the only thing i can relate to.

do/can you meditate zirules?

if not i suggest you focus on learning how to if you want to project. So try it and when you can do it incorporate it into your projection training.

thought and thinking are detrimental to OBEing as you are trying to relax your mind/body.

the hardest part for me is trying not to let the hypnogogic imagery and sounds distract me, as soon as i mentally comment on them they go.

zjrules · October 11, 2003, 12:50:38

i know but what about that quick hard shack,and drop feeling is that my astral body loosining???

Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 14:31:36

Well, you where close, the sinking feeling ment that you where going it to that half asleep/half awake state wich is what is I deal for aping.[

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zjrules · October 11, 2003, 14:39:45

ty shadow,and did u mean that my astral body was close to coming out or close to the trance???what do i do after that feeling?

Tisha · October 11, 2003, 15:07:46

Zjrules, your job, if you should choose to accept it, is to RELAX. "Doing" something will break the flow. Relax yourself completely, allow the "drop and shake" to happen. Imagine yourself floating out of your body. Then, come back and tell us all about it!

You might have to practice several times before it works. Don't let any botched attempts get you down, just keep working at it !!!

Tisha · October 11, 2003, 15:09:23

BTW, that "shake" might actually be projection vibrations. Check out my essay, in the Vibrations section, and tell me if that's what you felt.

Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 15:16:17

Like Tisha said, you gotta relax when your in the trance and the vibes start to come and they get intense with each breath relax. Try not to move or tense your muscles, and try yo keep breathing the way you where before, becuase if you get to overly excited the vibes will desipate.[

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zjrules · October 11, 2003, 15:21:24

yeah so i was close to getting my astral body out?

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Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 17:30:49

You where very close. Just a few more minutes of that and you propably would have APed.[

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ssjoku · October 11, 2003, 18:57:40

i find the best way to get yourself relax is running because your body gets tried when you do exersies... you should run for about 20 mins that should make your tried

Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 19:47:29

It might be the best way, but its not the fast.[

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zjrules · October 11, 2003, 19:48:17

ty ya'll alot i'll try that.can people awake in the physical bodies see you in your astral body??? can 2 or more people do astral projection and see each other????sorry im asking to much questions im new at this.please help me out

Shadow20205 · October 11, 2003, 20:10:36

Your Welcome, you should try tommi's vibration starter it works for me. To bad i don't have BWGEN or I could have gotten it my self.[

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zjrules · October 11, 2003, 20:25:26

ok what about the questions i ask???please answer it.

Tenacious · October 11, 2003, 23:36:55

zj-

from what I understand, no people can not see you while you are ap'ing. Yes 2 people can ap, however I'm not sure if you will see eachother (tisha some help? [

]) What you need to do is 1 thing at a time! Do not get all caught up in the "is it possibles" untill you have AP'ed

The reason I say this is because you will become side tracked when trying to ap, the get frustrated and stop trying as hard. (this has happened to me!) So good luck and happy travels!

electricdreamer · October 12, 2003, 05:57:40

I think everyone APs when they are sleeping-but most dont become conscious of it or simply dont remember-I personally always project from lucid dreams-like I am dreaming and something is out of place and makes me aware I am dreaming so than i know i can AP by will. It is like waking up inside of a dream-I have tried doing meditation and stuff and have had some OBEs where I have rolled out of my body-I would say-go to bed really tired (I dont know why but this seems to make it more likely) and dont eat for a few hours before going to sleep-when you are falling asleep be very quiet and focous your attention on feeling and hearing your body-your heartbeat-the breathing-also-I do pyhrannic breathing which is like yoga breathing-it works for me...

zjrules · October 11, 2003, 10:10:42

hi,

i was laying down and thinking about floating up,it didnt work.then i started to get small vibes,then later on i had this feeling like i dropped down and shooked hard like a hard shake.
can someone please help me thank you for your time to help

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