help plz..

[jilola]

Just swallow if you need to swallow and don't pay any more attention to it than that. Your body will do its thing no matter what so just don't worry.
Once you get into the initial stages of a trance most oof the bodily functions fade into the background.

Try keeping your tongue pressed gently against the top of your mouth.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[The AlphaOmega]

I would also have to say just swallow.  You're going to get saliva, everyone does, it's the bodys natural function.  Just pay as much attention to it during trance induction as you would if you were typing on this forum.  I personally wouldn't recommend the tongue thing because that doesn't necissarily qualify as being completely relaxed, and after a while of doing that it can get pretty sore and throw you off more.  3 weeks is not very long to have been into this, so I suggest one important thing while on these forums... don't listen to everyone.  Each individual has their own ways of doing everything and their own beliefs about it.  Reading all these different responses from people can put expectations and a lot of unnecissary clutter in your mind, which you MUST NOT have if you wish to succeed.  I think your best bet would be to experiment on yourself and see what works for you, because trying everyone elses techniques could actually slow you down.  Often people complicate it so much that it's tiresome to stick with it.  Find something simple that works, and stay with it.  I would say stick with the NEW program.  I can't say it's helped me have an OBE, but I did have my first lucid dreams after I started, and those can be fun.  Good luck!

[jilola]

I concur with AlphaOmega there.
The important thing is to find what works and use it as long as it works.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[ethic]

thanks for the replys jilola and alphaomega I hope they will help me. Also I am waiting for the astral dynamic book so i am going to read it as soon i get it..
i am not giving up so i will keep trying
thx

[ethic]

Ive been trying to have an OBE since 3 weeks.. Ive failed all the times due to saliva when I am trying to enter to trance state saliva comes and i think that breaks my concentration because I need to swallow and maybe for that reason I cannot enter  to trance state. All times when ive tried I can be there for a long of time and never fall on sleep so falling in sleep is not my problem really i dont know what... the only sensation that ive have are vibrations on my skin and sometimes fast heart beat ... maybe my problem is whith my saliva so what can i do? also ive been doing NEW for 2 weeks.. im having results with that, i 've been doin it 1 hour per day, also ive been trying to do obes.. i think doing energy raising will help me to have an obe.. any suggest? oh and my english sux i know, but its not my native language =/