help with astral projection

[NeoSaturn]

when you people AP do you actually feel you going out of your body and control your soul like you would with muscles, or do you do it all with your mind, because i got a great audiotape, and i don't know which of it that i felt was real.

An advanced thank you for all of you.

[NeoSaturn]

anybody?

[Andali27]

Once you get out, you worry about moving.  Aparently instentaneous travel is by thought alone but you move as you would in your real body.  Don't think "hand, move", cause it'll take you 4eva to do anything.  Just walk, float, jump, whatever, as you would in reality.  Hope that helps.  Anything else, PM me.

Andali

[NeoSaturn]

OK thanks, but i was kinda referring to the getting out part, not to be rude or anything...

[NeoSaturn]

nobody else cares to help me?

[Nay]

I'll try..

First can you explain how far you get and what exactly is giving you problems?  The more descriptive the better.  That way we can pin point what help you need.

Nay

[-=*NaTuRaL*=-]

when you people AP do you actually feel you going out of your body and control your soul like you would with muscles, or do you do it all with your mind, because i got a great audiotape, and i don't know which of it that i felt was real.

An advanced thank you for all of you.

When I AP I feel myself coming out of my body. Have you ever projected before? If the answer is No then I'll give you this much--you know when your separating from your body because a rush of vibrations come. When I'm at this point I tell myself that I want to "rise", then I rise... or I'll say I want to "get out" then I'm out. or sometimes I just wake up in the middle of the night and find myself looking down at my body. It all has to do with what you find is best for you. No one can tell YOU how to get out of YOUR body because everyone is different. Experiment a few times and eventually you'll find Wat works.  

If you're not satisfied with this answer please tell me. k.

[NeoSaturn]

will OK i will try.

i got an AP audiotape, and it seems to be working, but my problem is that i don't know if it is fake (IE. in my mind) or real, so i decided to ask what it "felt" like when you were exiting, like do you actually move your astral body like you would your physical one? or do you just visualize, or is it something totally different?

[-=*NaTuRaL*=-]

will OK i will try.

i got an AP audiotape, and it seems to be working, but my problem is that i don't know if it is fake (IE. in my mind) or real, so i decided to ask what it "felt" like when you were exiting, like do you actually move your astral body like you would your physical one? or do you just visualize, or is it something totally different?

oh, OK,
well... how it feels to me when I'm exiting is like I'm floating (basically). I feel weightless. That is, after the vibrations. When you're on the astral plane you move your body (astral) just like you would move your physical body right now. If you find yourself "visualizing" yourself projecting then consider that to be a lucid dream. You don't visualize yourself projecting if your really doing it--you feel it. Like I said before you should feel harsh vibrations before--thats when you're separating. And completely weightless when you're exiting (like you're floating).

k.

[NeoSaturn]

ok that helps a lot!

[EnderZ]

when you people AP do you actually feel you going out of your body and control your soul like you would with muscles, or do you do it all with your mind, because i got a great audiotape, and i don't know which of it that i felt was real.

An advanced thank you for all of you.

When I've APed, I feel the vibrations come on gradualy, and than they get stronger and stronger until its pretty intense. After a little bit I start to feel like a tiny point of awarness, or conscienceness inside my body, usually around my stomach/solarplexis area. For me, it feels as though I am just a tiny tiny spec trapped inside some huge shell[my physical body] that I am in the center of.

From there, I make myself feel a sense of riseing up, or falling down.  I imagine what it would actualy feel like to slowy rise like a simple balloon, not just visualize, but specificly feel the feeling, if that makes any sense.  From there its just green light go!

-En

[NeoSaturn]

cool, thanks a lot

[EnderZ]

np, and by the way, welcome to astral pulse

-En

[NeoSaturn]

thanks for the welcome.

it amazed me how many posts i made in 4 days...

[Zarklon]

When I leave my body it is definately a real feeling.  The vibrations sorta feel like chills but without the goosebumps and the chill (shivering) feeling lasts a few seconds instead of just an instance.  For me the vibes feel like one loong chill that starts weak at first then it may stop completely then a sec later it starts up again.. each time it gradually gets longer until I'm ready to make an effort to leave my body.  I go in and out of paralysis it seems..  When I used to project from a sitting position in my desk at school I used my subconcious mind to help me sort of ... fall out of my body once it hit paralysis... or really it just felt like I was slipping off to one side of my desk and each time I'de try to center my back on the chair it would instantly click back into place.. it took a bit of trial and error to realize WHAT it was at first.  I then started to figure out ways to use it to my advantage...  Combining sleep deprivation and listening to my teacher's lectures while sitting up in my desk seemed to be all I needed to do... I'de then just wait to feel like  iwas sliding out my desk and with much guts and "I dont care anymore" attitude I just let myself fall out the desk one day only to realize that I just made a clean smooth separation and simply floated to the floor.  

Its a very real feeling.. vibes were felt when I started to feel as though  I was sliding out the desk but I think I was sometimes able to focus more on the falling feeling and the vibes werent really felt , but all I had to do was change my focus a bit maybe towards the physical body and I felt them just as strong as a projection from laying on my back.  Astral projection is definately something that is challenging for me.. its taught me much about my body's sleep stages and its better *by far* than any drug I've explored yet heh..  

PS: (Feel free to remove if its necessary) I've been experimenting with many legal and over the counter highs and I've found something interesting when I combined Robitussin and marijuana.  I've always been able to make psi balls easier when high and the robo even enhanced it further so when me and 2 friends got together , we were intoxicated by robo and high and I was itching to see if they wanted to feel some more psi energy like they did the previous nights while they were sober.  Well.. to make a long story short , I ended up asking them if they would like me to try to guide them through an astral projection by doing energy work to their whole body and gently talking them out.  The experiment was a success and it freaked us all out.  I opened a chakra in their palms first then asked them if they felt it and what it felt like and sure enough , they said they were feeling something penetrate their hand and go up their arm.. well.. that was good enough for me.  I kept that up and pushed energy through their arms , chest ,  legs , everywhere one at a time and after I was confident that they were deep enough in relaxation and enough energy was pumping through them *It was so strong!* ,  I centered all the energy in their body that I could manipulate into their chest.  Once I centered all of what I felt radiating from them into their chest , I sorta did some kind of mortal combat sould ripping thing *not really but I felt like I was doing a fatality heh* ... err.. anyway , I drew it all into a ball in their chest and gently lifted it out and told them to lift and enjoy the experience but come back shortly after so they would remember it (just in case)... well..  after about 15 secs I decided to wake my friend up and it scared the crap out of me.. I thought he was dead because he would not respond even when my voice raised to a small shout.. I litereally had to slap him awake.  When he awoke , he was all wide-eyed and in total awe saying how he felt his chest raise up and he soon saw the room and me sitting there by him and my friend in the other part of the room , all that good stuff.  

I'll be experimenting with my ability to astral project while high on various things just to see what kind of results I get. Robo has proven to be a very interesting meditation aid and I'm not through with it yet.  Now that this happened with my friends .. I think I need to study it a bit more.  

*note* I tried somethign else in combination with marijuana to study it.. another over the counter drug and ended up driving me and a friend off the highway at 4am on a school morning going to get cigs and into some trees.. thankfully we werent hurt and my car wasnt hurt too bad besides 2  busted headlights and a busted driver side window..  These things are not to be messed with just by any average joe...  I did not necessarily overdose but my "trip sitter" went to sleep on me and I got the wild hair up my arse and decided to go for a drive.  I'de say 80% of that night I didnt remember including repeating "I just saw Jesus!!" over and over to a friends roomate after climbing in and out of his bed while he was in it...  not cool..  All in all it interests me to figure out just WHY I dont remember those things and how I was able to function normally the whole time. Anyway , thats why I study drugs and maybe one day I can make a breakthrough... maybe hold robitussin meditations for new age hippies into astral projection hehehehe.