My new theory about getting out of the body

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lily moonsong

When I'm out of my body, I feel like a ghost... but I haven't been able to move around when I was out...

Have you ever heard the saying that demons get stronger when you fear them?  I don't personally believe in demons the way most people do, but I believe the saying has some validity in that spirits do get stronger when we feed them emotion.  But what is emotion?  Emotion is energy.  Maybe it's not just emotion that makes them stronger, maybe a spirit needs any kind of energy to help sustain their self in our dimensional plane. 

My theory is that when we attempt to go out of our body, we won't be able to unless we have the necessary amount of energy available at the time of exit that will endure the entire time span of the travel session. 

When I looked at other people's recounts of their past astral experiences, I've heard people say that they projected easier in their bathtub.  Maybe they were using the elemental water energy to help them achieve this?  Others have mentioned feeling vibrations right before their astral body also known as their energy body leaves their physical body.

I haven't read this theory anywhere else, and thought maybe the experienced astral travelers here could give it a go, and see if it helps.  It couldn't hurt anything...

The next time we attempt to go out of our body there's a list of ways we can add extra energy to give our astral body a boost during it's travels:
1.)  Surround the room with quartz crystals only while attempting obe(leaving an opening near the window for free escape)
2.)  Place fountains in the room on nights we attempt to obe
3.)  Try to obe at an event full of strong human emotions like a club or party
4.)  Place lots of plants and greenery in the room
5.)  Take multi-vitamins and eat fruit and veggies while imagining white light entering your body from the food (for maximum energy boost)
6.)  Place pictures of loved ones around the room during time of obe
7.)  Hang paintings on the walls the room that cause strong emotional reactions.
8.)  Find a way to make your room smell like something that reminds you of a very emotional day in your life
9.)  Sleep in lightweight clothing or naked
10.)  Sleep with a light sheet over you instead of a blanket.. to help your energy flow easier

Anybody got any other ways to have extra energy during obe exit feel free to add to the list. 

MindMonkey

Very interesting..!!

I wonder if it is any good to use big magnets and create a magnetic field and try OBE...
FYI.. I never had an willfull obe yet.. the one that i had last week was in the middle of the night when I didnt try getting out of body.. Forgive me if this sounds silly...

lily moonsong

Magnetic fields can hinder the movement of the astral body.. because they will create a magnetic pull on the astral body making it take longer to get where they're going.  The same thing with electronics....  Have you ever seen how ghosts make the tv and lights act up?

I've read somewhere that it is easier to travel along powerlines...

Maybe it would be possible to set up a route of magnets and electronics that lead from the bed to the window...  :-P  ehhh... idk    :lol:

MindMonkey


lily moonsong

Well magnets can help.  But you have to align them a certain way, I'm not sure you will have to experiement.

personalreality

I figured this out the other day.  The Purple Flame meditation that NoY teaches seems to ground you in the projection and energizes you if you do it before you project and once you're out of the body.

Breathe In White light, pulling it up from your feet through your body.
Breathe Out and see a purple flame coming out of the crown chakra and enveloping the body.

That helped me a lot in the projection.
be awesome.

AlanRK

Quote from: lily moonsong on March 18, 2008, 22:37:05
When I'm out of my body, I feel like a ghost... but I haven't been able to move around when I was out...
Vicinity to your physical body can hinder movement. When you feel like you can't move, how close are you to your physical body? Usually getting away from it helps immensely. Even if you feel like you can't move an inch, just try, and see how much of a difference it makes.

Quote from: lily moonsong on March 18, 2008, 22:37:05Have you ever heard the saying that demons get stronger when you fear them?  I don't personally believe in demons the way most people do, but I believe the saying has some validity in that spirits do get stronger when we feed them emotion.  But what is emotion?  Emotion is energy.  Maybe it's not just emotion that makes them stronger, maybe a spirit needs any kind of energy to help sustain their self in our dimensional plane. 
I'm not sure if it makes them "stronger", as in the feed on it, but it makes them stronger against us. Your theory has validity though, and it would make sense if it does make them stronger (in themselves) but this would be a difficult theory to test.

Quote from: lily moonsong on March 18, 2008, 22:37:05My theory is that when we attempt to go out of our body, we won't be able to unless we have the necessary amount of energy available at the time of exit that will endure the entire time span of the travel session. 
Others have similar theories, Robert Bruce for example. I don't know about it myself but it seems valid.

Quote from: lily moonsong on March 18, 2008, 22:37:05When I looked at other people's recounts of their past astral experiences, I've heard people say that they projected easier in their bathtub.
What? I can't imagine why people would project in their bathtub, and I doubt the sample size is large enough to draw from it some reliable data and conclusions. I can think of a few reasons why projecting from a bathtub might be easier, and it hasn't got anything to do with energy.

Monk

Hmm, well first off, I suppose you are talking about a classical OBE, referring to the etheric plane otherwise know as RTZ projection according to my understanding of it. With it being an extension of the physical, like all beings in the physical, all being in the etheric need energy to survive. Your theory holds validity just live everyone else's.

But I would like to prod for another angle at the energy question. How about etheric energy sources? Preparing for an OBE as such described is all fine and dandy according to this theory but what if you are somehow "low on gas" in the middle of it all? What if you were to draw upon the etheric energy present and abundant around you in the OBE? Transmute and feed the energy into your system so that you wont be plunged back into your body due to you being low on energy.

Anyways that was just a though on if everything else fails...
They say hope begins in the dark...
But most just flail around in the blackness, searching for their destiny...
The darkness... For me... Is where I shine.

personalreality

that's what the purple flame does.

the white light, 'in' breath is drawing in etheric energy and the purple flame 'out' breath is the transmutation of the energy by your inner flame, your spiritual fire, thereby adapting it to your energy frequency.
be awesome.

Monk

Well in certain terms, that white light would technically be not etheric energy in its generalized sense  for it being white would mean it would be undifferentiated with any programming. But pertaining to that process, you could draw in any of the energy you perceive surrounding your being and let it pass through that same process and the same result would follow. Just a thought ...  :-P
They say hope begins in the dark...
But most just flail around in the blackness, searching for their destiny...
The darkness... For me... Is where I shine.

personalreality

be awesome.