Hemi sync series- save $500

[Deanwttck]

I've been trying to AP for 3 years now with nothing, I've had several lucid dreams, that's it. I used to get up at 3  am and meditate on a kitchen chair, i read that somewhere, thats how much ive tried to AP. I feel like crying when I read all of the adventures of people who can AP. I ve spent a ton of money on all books etc. someone mentioned the hemi sync series  (what is that ? ) series for $ 500, but you can get it for free on the inet. I don't want to spend any more $ on AP stuff (I'd pay the $500 if I knew it would work )? . I have a ipad, can I get the hemi sync on it?  Can someone help me out with this?  I'm new to Astral pulse, could you send a reply to deanwttck@ gmail.com. I'm new to forums , and I'm scared someone may respond, and I'll never see it?

[Xanth]

You obviously have too many ideas and concepts floating around in your head about what Astral Projection is and how to do it...

Tell me, what do you think Astral Projection is and how do you think one projects?
But please, notice I asked what do *YOU* think?  I don't want to hear you regurgitate something you read in a book or from somewhere else... what does your instincts tell you?

[desert-rat]

If you want a self hypnosis cd , new age book stores have them . There around $15-20 .  This forum and obe4u has a free book you can down load .  D. Sutphen has cds and mp3s for sale . There are many self hypnosis videos posted on you tube . There are a bunch of a.p. books and a.p. mp3s for down load off the torrent sites . I can post torrent links in p.m. if asked .
http://richardsutphen.com/
http://obe4u.com/
http://www.youtube.com/
This site is run by a new age store in Phoenix AZ USA
http://www.aznewage.com/

[desert-rat]

p.s. Why make a post on a forum with an email adress , and not check on it ? Dont make me put  you   in my post and split pile .

[Astralsuzy]

I agree with what you said, you can spend a heap of money and still not ap.   Perhaps the reason why you cannot ap is because you sit on a kitchen chair.   I assume it is uncomfortable.   I could not ap by sitting on an uncomfortable chair.   It can be done but I think it would be a lot harder to do.   I used to lie down on my back on a very thin mattress but I stopped doing that as my back starts to feel sore after a while.   When I want to lie on my back I now use another thin mattress as well so my back will not get sore.  One more tip, make sure you are not trying too hard to ap as that can prevent you from aping.   You can put pressure on yourself.   We do not want that.   We have to stay calm and relaxed.

[desert-rat]

On the self hypnosis tapes , to quote D. Sutphen" just play the tape over and over not expecting any thing" . This was on a past life regression tape , " just make it up you will making up real past lives "  On a a.p. tape " just visualize your self out of body , you will soon be doing this for real ".  You can also find Sutphen's work and a lot of others on amazon .
http://www.amazon.com/Astral-Projection-willy-Sutphen/dp/B008LYCZAU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1383835918&sr=8-2&keywords=willy+sutphen+astral+projection

[LoLmart]

research indirect techniques of Raduga. Wake up-dont move-out of body in 10-15 seconds. Research it! No effort, hugely effective

[desert-rat]

As best as I can remember Raduga is the guy at obe 4 u , and I have scene his work for down load on the torrent sites  . I will provide torrent links in p.m. if asked . W. Bulhman has a lot of good a.p.and past life regression     self hypnosis mp3s out there also .
http://obe4u.com/

[Deanwttck]

I assume its just a change of our conscience,moving from our physical reality ,to a non-physical environment . When we stay awake,move to the non-physical  and our conscience comes along , it's a AP, when we go to sleep, we just remember fuzzy things from our adventures, and call them dreams. The kitchen chair thing, by the way was something I tried several years ago, just to show others how determined I was to AP. somewhere I read not to get too comfortable trying to AP or you'll just fall asleep, I guess I over did it a bit?

[TylerSnotgern]

It's been my experience that Hemi-Sync is highly dependent on a number of things including a quality set of headphones that work in a horizontal position comfortably

my preference

http://www.sleepphones.com/

and a quiet non-intrusive environment. Point being it isn't so much about binaurality as it is binaurality in the appropriate setting.

[dotster]

You sound like me when I was younger. I agree with Xanth on this one. It's nice to read and learn from other's experiences but in essence that's what you are paying for is THEIR view on the subject and while this can be helpful to a degree you still have to find your own way. When you relax enough (body and mind) to the point where projection is possible you can't be thinking about all the different techniques you've read about or your mind is not in an ideal state for projection so all you're doing is getting in the way of yourself.

In your spare time during the day try keeping your mind clear of all thought; make a game out of it if that helps. Challenge yourself to see how long you can go without thinking. The longer you can keep up that frame of mind, the higher your chances of success in my opinion. If you really want some reading material I would suggest going to Xanth's blog and reading the Phasing Primer. That's what ended up being the most beneficial resource in my projection "arsenal", and it's free of charge.

Also desert-rat, I would think it might be a better idea to PM someone to let them know that you can provide them with illegal material than to post it for everyone to see hehe. I think that might be frowned upon 

[spirited away]

Hi, I had experienced with the Hemi sync CD's. I own all 6 or 7 can't remember.  I used them when I first began learning.  I suggest reading all three of Monroe's books before giving it a go.  His books will correlate with the CD's.  You will learn how to shift from different focus of consciousness. The  CD's deals with preparing your body and mind to the optimal level ( relaxing your body, clearing your mind, stop mind chattering, put problems aside, overcoming your fears and many more).  By the second CD, I was able to achieve an OBE.  I stopped using the CD's after the third sets.  Please read some of the stickies by some the the senior members here.  The topics are very helpful and I believe you can benefit from it.  Do some digging. BEst of luck

[Astralsuzy]

Can you achieve ap any time of the day by using the CD's or is it just early in the morning?

[Xanth]

Can you achieve ap any time of the day by using the CD's or is it just early in the morning?

Any time of day.
There's no limit to any of this... ever. 

[Astralsuzy]

That is fantastic, thanks Xanth.

[Re]

Deanwttck my grain of salt would be that you don't spend any more money. It sounds like it's just building up additional frustration. I can relate to that, and I can tell you, although I'm not hugely successful myself, that you have all you need in you. And even if you think you have been wasting time and money, all that you have invested is actually part of a learning experience that will lead you somewhere. Learning about yourself and how to fail is just as important as learning about how other people succeed. Hell, I'd say it's actually necessary! So don't despair.

I'd recommend you focus your attention on something a bit more tangential in order to approach AP from a fresher point of view, so to speak. If you feel comfortable with different kinds of spirituality, why not learn about Buddhism and Hinduism? Taoism? Even if you don't "buy it", learning how different cultures have approached spirituality (how they tried to explain reality) can be very interesting and can give you some clues along the way. How about Magick? Or western paranormal studies? In my opinion they all touch some common aspects of what AP is about. Discordians say the reality (time, space, even identity) you perceive is just chaos filtered by your mind, which is just a point of view.

Learn about the subconscious. Ask yourself what reality is, what you are. Get philosophical, have fun. Read some Robert Anton Wilson, or Kurt Vonnegut. Read The Invisibles. The more fun you have, the more you will learn, even if you don't know what the heck you are learning about.