Hi I'm looking for people who can astral project

[sinesthera]

I've had a lot of dealings with I guess you'd call it magic etc. and I've been looking for people who can astral project. I've been doing my own research. I have found that I can interact and show people things places information scenes etc. but I can not see them my self. I've been looking for people who can accurately see. I've had several experiences with OBE and well I'm very lets say resistant to leaving my body forcefully. Last time someone tried to make me leave I ended up going into convulsions and so I never really tried that again. I can interact with others very well.
People have felt me do things seen me sometimes heard me. Those with the ability to see hear and feel spirits and to astral project them selves have been able to sense me. My main limitation is that I am not fully cognizant of all that's happening. I can sense it and see it to some extent but not very much detail.
I am registered as being out of my body and in my body at the same time... and I can be aware of what that part of me is doing sometimes to a limited degree thus I'm looking for people who can provide detail.

[Job]

It sounds to me like your bodies (astral and physical) are misaligned. What might help is to ask your being to realign them. Just a suggestion...

[sinesthera]

I was told it was something else... Multiple segments of self. People have seen multiple versions of me, also bindings on me. But i will follow what you suggested and see if that works.
If it does that will make me alot happier. I've been exploring different avenues mostly in dealing with others who I have enabled to astral project and then others who already could.

[Draege]

Here's an easy solution for you. OBE/AstralProjection are nothing more than dreaming. Sometimes people dream about other people (!). When you think about someone alot, or think about a topic alot, those things manifest themselves (!). Granted, we seem to all be connected not only to each other but to all of existance in a way we will never fully understand - which brings about unexplainable coincidences and seemingly psychic-related events.

That's as simple as it gets really. Most here might not agree with me, but I can safely assure you the cause of all this is you've absorbed too many fantastical ideas on the mind/body topic and your mind has run away with them.

My sincere advice is to put away all the theories/opinions and potential fears you may have on the topic and start from the basics of daily meditation and dream journalling. Once the experiences start you can explore things first hand, objectively, and build your knowledge base from that.

[Job]

In the past I have been exposed to that same ideal, to the belief and concept of "questioning". One fundamental error in that concept is that it has originated from another being. It is a swallowed personal value.

It is undoubtedly inevitable and absolutely veritable that we are bound to the concepts of our fellow men (even those who find themselves innerly free).

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things soever he doeth, these the Son also doeth in like manner."--VM Yeshua

We can do nothing of ourselves, but only that which we take in from the world around us. Just as the father teaches the son, so to does the world teach us.

Another error in such a concept is that it is too unspecific. People want to know how to question, but how shall they go about questioning; what is there to question? We must always be specific.

Another error we do not want to incur is the timeless error of the blind and willfully disabled follower. It is neccessary to be more mild, so people can gain there own knowledge through experience and support themselves. Many fanatical cults and skeptical sciences have been founded upon extreme values expressed enthusiastically and eccentrically.

The above mentioned statement has been expressed based on the impractical nature of that specific concept which was mentioned. We must be more specific...

A good part I find in that post, that of value, is the suggestion of a dream journal and daily meditation. I used to use them, and they helped much in remembering dreams. To add my part to the suggestion, I posted a mantras for astral projection within the forum:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22643&start=10
(scroll down until you see FARAON)

[sinesthera]

It's more then dreaming... In many cases I have tested people and they have come up with information which they could not have known answers they had no link to it is not dreaming. I have never astrally projected myself but have dealt with other people who have and i have tested there visions for validity. I test many peoples ideas and perceptions against each other and provide them with information or visions which I know to be true but they have no experience with or knowledge of. My methods of questioning are generally very detailed and specific and I compare and contrast answers.

As to the things which I believe would be considered more fantastical I witnessed while awake and I witnessed myself.