Stuck? or ancy I dont know

[ANMonte87]

So for the last 10-12 years i have had minimal success with projection. I at most will get vibrations and find myself locked within my physical body though experiencing the detachment... This is exciting and an experience all in its own for me. However 99% of the time I fall short of this.

Usually i lay, facing my head in the east toes to the west ( ish ) I lay quietly, deep breaths to relax, focus relaxation through the body, become heavy and numb sometimes it becomes hard to breathe due to this feeling in my face and neck ( so sometimes i have to move or shift my face to the side ) but rare. that aside... I reach fully numb asleep state, I sit.. and i wait, and i wait.. I try to focus on my third eye, i try to feel for any kind of change.. nothing happens

I might even drift off to sleep from time to time for a moment or two.. nothing happens.

I am not sure what i am doing wrong but eventually the desire to move becomes overwhelming. I get some kind of unsettling urge in my thighs to stretch or roll over onto my stomach as laying on my back is not how i like to sleep. Eventually I give up and go to bed... this has gone on for many MANY years to no avail, but I don't give up.

On a brighter note, when i was a young teenager ( 14-18 ) i used to get to this state and then imagine myself running and jumping off cliffs like super mario... landing on ledges below.. giving myself the falling feeling let me know I was on the edge of sleep... this seemed to increase my likelihood of success to reach vibrations.. the few times i did it was tremendously scary not knowing what to expect! but also extremely exciting also... then not knowing what to do next or when? do i try to get out during the vibrations? or after they stop? what if i miss my chance? what if it wasn't real at all and i move and mess it all up!

so yes, this is where i stand. Stuck. I was wondering if there is anyone out there who has experienced astral projection first hand on a more regular basis or can willfully do it somewhat reliably that could critique me... or give some tips.

[Xanth]

So for the last 10-12 years i have had minimal success with projection. I at most will get vibrations and find myself locked within my physical body though experiencing the detachment... This is exciting and an experience all in its own for me. However 99% of the time I fall short of this.

It took me well over 10 years to have my first conscious projection.  Hang in there. 

Usually i lay, facing my head in the east toes to the west ( ish ) I lay quietly, deep breaths to relax, focus relaxation through the body, become heavy and numb sometimes it becomes hard to breathe due to this feeling in my face and neck ( so sometimes i have to move or shift my face to the side ) but rare. that aside... I reach fully numb asleep state, I sit.. and i wait, and i wait.. I try to focus on my third eye, i try to feel for any kind of change.. nothing happens

I might even drift off to sleep from time to time for a moment or two.. nothing happens.

You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over thinking this. 

I am not sure what i am doing wrong but eventually the desire to move becomes overwhelming. I get some kind of unsettling urge in my thighs to stretch or roll over onto my stomach as laying on my back is not how i like to sleep. Eventually I give up and go to bed... this has gone on for many MANY years to no avail, but I don't give up.

Not that forcing things is a good idea, but have you tried to force your way through that overwhelming desire to move?  That's kind of the signal from the body to the brain to let the brain know the body is asleep.

On a brighter note, when i was a young teenager ( 14-18 ) i used to get to this state and then imagine myself running and jumping off cliffs like super mario... landing on ledges below.. giving myself the falling feeling let me know I was on the edge of sleep... this seemed to increase my likelihood of success to reach vibrations.. the few times i did it was tremendously scary not knowing what to expect! but also extremely exciting also... then not knowing what to do next or when? do i try to get out during the vibrations? or after they stop? what if i miss my chance? what if it wasn't real at all and i move and mess it all up!

so yes, this is where i stand. Stuck. I was wondering if there is anyone out there who has experienced astral projection first hand on a more regular basis or can willfully do it somewhat reliably that could critique me... or give some tips.

It sounds like you know exactly what to do.  Why did you stop doing this?  It sounds like it worked well for you.

As for Vibrations, ignore them.  I view them as nothing but a signpost which reads "Keep doing what you're doing, because you're doing it right!".
So just ignore them and keep doing whatever it is you were doing when you began feeling them.  The point is to continue focusing away from the physical...

What you're currently doing is at the moment you feel the vibrations your attention seems to be coming right back to your PHYSICAL body, when what you want is the exact opposite!  You want to remove your focus from this physical reality, not bring it back here. 

See what I mean?  You're doing fine... you just need to get your intellect out of the way and *ALLOW* your consciousness to naturally do what comes naturally to it! 

[ANMonte87]

thanks for the feedback, im not really sure why I stopped. I think because i wasnt progressing as fast as i wanted to and wanted to try the " traditional way " or at least the way others seemed to get there. However i understand its different for everyone. I try every day and night if possible, I will again tonight and if anything magical happens ill let you guys know! lol

I did really enjoy the falling feeling though.. I had live action dreams while awake ( day dreams are very very vivid for me lol )

[ANMonte87]

230am, wellno luck i think ill head to bed in a moment for real this time. Reached a new level of numb, warm, weightlessness.. intense pressure and felt as though i was swaying in water... but nothing happened past that. try as i might willing to move, float, fly, fall anything.. visualizing in my mind wht i wanted. begging any spirits or anything around me to help.. nothing.. i just laid there in this uncomfortable state of heavy tingling and detatchedness.... maybe i am just TOO awake in my mind while trying to do this.

I literally was in this state for almost an hour :/

[Astralsuzy]

When nothing works, you have to make it happen.   Practice spiritually getting out of your body.   When you can do it, it is a great skill to have.

[ANMonte87]

Sadly I'm not quiet sure how to " Make " it happen. But I did get further last night then I normally do so I will keep at it. I am pretty sure I felt vibrations of some kind. But it was not associated with any sounds or floating feeling.

tonight I will do the same as I did lastnight and try to push myself gradually thanks for the reply!

[Szaxx]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html
Have a read if not done so. It may help you.

[Xanth]

Sadly I'm not quiet sure how to " Make " it happen. But I did get further last night then I normally do so I will keep at it. I am pretty sure I felt vibrations of some kind. But it was not associated with any sounds or floating feeling.

tonight I will do the same as I did lastnight and try to push myself gradually thanks for the reply!

Well, it's actually REALLY SIMPLE.  All you need to do is stop getting your intellect in the way.
Projection is a natural state of consciousness.  Your consciousness WANTS to experience stuff.

When you successfully push away everything physical... your consciousness will naturally project. 
First it could be to the void... for when you push away everything physical, "nothing" might be all you experience first.
You might simply pop to another reality frame.  <-- this is what happens usually when one "dreams".  A dream is a projection where you don't realize you're projecting. 

Get my drift? 

[ANMonte87]

Thanks for the link I'll give it a looksy here in a minute. Also thanks for the tip I suppose I try that but theres a million different approaches and I guess I'll just try them all ^_^ I'm bound to get it eventually. If nothing else the level of calmness and meditation is doing wonders for my back.. the muscles all un-tense and I sleep MUCH better... and usually have some crazy dreams that are SEMI Lucid..

[Xanth]

Just remember, if your ultimate goal is spiritual growth... then know that you don't ever have to leave this reality in order to grow spiritually.
Your fast track to spiritual growth is in your interactions with other consciousnesses HERE. 

Although the side effect of spiritual growth is increased spontaneous projections. 

[ANMonte87]

Actually my ultimate goal is to experience freedom and explore the universe etc. Also see if there is a way for me to help heal someone i love on a spiritual level. Hes been tested for everything under the sun and no one can tell him whats wrong with him. they all say hes healthy and hes been in massive amounts of pain for the last 2 years. some kind of nerve pain. Not MS, not Lymes, etc etc the drs have given up on him and he doesn't even wanna live anymore because of how debilitating it is.

[Who Am I]

take a 3-4 hour nap before practicing.

also, get this book

http://research.obe4u.com/practical-guidebook/

if u aleady got vibrations ull b projectin within days or earlier.

[Xanth]

Actually my ultimate goal is to experience freedom and explore the universe etc. Also see if there is a way for me to help heal someone i love on a spiritual level. Hes been tested for everything under the sun and no one can tell him whats wrong with him. they all say hes healthy and hes been in massive amounts of pain for the last 2 years. some kind of nerve pain. Not MS, not Lymes, etc etc the drs have given up on him and he doesn't even wanna live anymore because of how debilitating it is.

You don't need to project to help heal someone.
You can help heal right now, while you're physically wide awake.

Watch this playlist of videos:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD3eZsf4ijw&list=PL116B93203DB19990
It's some experiential experiments that Tom Campbell lead the people who came to his lecture.  He showed them how easy it is to heal people without having to delve into anything too complicated.  All you need is a focused consciousness and an intended goal.

[ANMonte87]

awesome great to know. I will definitely look at it... Also some good news, I've been doing a lot of " praying? " while meditating that some help may come for him. Turns out his doc yesterday decided to start him on Lymes treatment to see if it will react because hes chronic, any testing would turn up negative even if he did have it.

So heres hoping !