look at the images

[Luthor]

When inducing a WILD advice seems to be to daydream and allow images to form and perhaps focus on a dot in the field of vision or similar.

When I close my eyes I tend to just see blobs of color like a lava lamp.(I do practice mostly during the day) I sometimes see blurred shapes which mostly tend to reflect my thoughts in a Rorsch inkblot type effect. This is my vision behind closed eyelids.

When my mind goes still and I let it daydream then I see with my imagination, the blobs are still there but I'm less tuned in, I notice them less and am much more focused on the 'visuals' that I am imagining.

Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question but do you actually see imagery with your eyes or is the observing a mental effect?   

[Szaxx]

Here's a guide

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

[Luthor]

Thanks Szaxx, actually that guide's one of my favourites.

I also read Franks posts where he talks about 'locking the eyes out of the equation' and shifting the consciousness upwards towards the centre of the brow pineal gland area. Like Frank every time I get a mental impression my eyes instantly try to view what ever it is I'm sensing.

For example I can, in a good hypnagogic state get impressions e.g a face or person, it's usually an image that carries a feeling or level of intent with it. Sometimes curious, amused, mothering or vaguely malign etc. I get a flash of something that I might relate to that feeling like, laughing man, horse, witch face of the like and instantly try to get a better view with my physical eyes and I lose it.

So I 'see' something, it appears in my field of view just like if I was using my physical eyes but I'm not.  It seems hard to tell where my physical vision stops and imagination begins.  Hypnagogic imagery seems to present at random, often accompanied by this gut reaction to the unconscious content but my current feeling is that it's not something I'm viewing physically - I'm seeing and sensing it
without a doubt but just not physically.

I'm such a novice at this I think my confusion is stemming from not wanting to let go of the physical senses and trying to interpret non physical data with the physical senses.  I struggle trying to process the fact I can 'see' things without my eyes and hear things with ears when in this border hypnagogic line state and is still trying to process this data the good old fashioned way. 

From what I read I need to be passive and simply allow the hypnagogic imagery to come and go before kicking into gear.  Am I right in thinking that the crux is drifting to the border of sleep whilst detaching from the physical (along with other senses) visual process of seeing before engaging with the hypnagogic imagery?

Hope I made sense, sorry if bit long winded, 



   

[Szaxx]

Sounds good, just let them come and go at random trying to ignore them initially. When they come to life thats the time to interact. By then you'll not have any physical body awareness and you shouldn't think of the body at all. Just get involved with the scenery.
It will feel like the physical more than a dream.
You've successfully phased and have started your experience.
Feel everything around you involving as many senses as you can and do what you can to ground yourself.
Enjoy...