My godlike method for obtaining OBEs

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Steel Hawk

Let me give you some background on myself. I've been into this OBE thing for the past 12 years now. It took me about 10 years to get my first projection where I could actually see and hear. I suppose I'm an exceptionally tough case and nothing I tried worked for me. I had to figure it out on my own through trial and error. This is how I came up with this technique. The important thing is I wanted this more than anything else, and I got it. I'm in no way good at OBE's as fear is my number one barrier. But my method works, and there's nothing fancy about it.

I tried dozen of methods, the most they did for me was give me a swaying feeling or light vibrations. I feel after trying them all this works best for me, and maybe it will for you too.

For me I have the greatest chance of an OBE when I'm extremely sleepy. It may just be a personal thing, but if I get 5-6 hours a sleep for 5 days straight OR zero hours of sleep for 24 hours I can do it with almost no effort. I'd only recommend this if you've tried and tried, but nothing works. Don't blame me if it doesn't work for you though. ;)

My easiest method after 10 years of other methods "The Natural Method":

Don't do anything special, just go to bed when you're sure you're sleepy. Don't stretch, don't relax, just be sleepy like normal. Don't think to much about projecting, it will come naturally. What I'm about to say is questionable and goes against most thoughts here, but it's very important.

Tell yourself you're not going to project tonight with this technique. You'll probably end up falling asleep. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It took him 10 years and he barely knows how. I won't be projecting with this technique tonight. It won't work. I'm telling you now, it won't work.

When you feel you're about to fall asleep let a fantasy / scenario come into your mind in a dream like manner. This should be your main goal, not projecting.

This next part is important: The scenario has to be something on your mind, otherwise you will think of a scenario instead of letting a scenario into your mind. Also, don't plan out what the scenario will be before you start to fall asleep. There should be little if any conversation in the scenario, just visual images and feelings. A good one for me is thinking of someone I'm attracted to nude (visual images, entertaining, feelings, no conversation) heh.

You'll notice as this goes on you'll start to fall asleep and the scenario will start to fade. This part is a lot like holding an egg between two hammers. It takes practice and skill. If you hold too tight you'll crush the egg, if you don't hold on tight enough then the egg will drop. If you hold on to the scenario too much you won't get anywhere, if you don't hold on tight enough you'll fall asleep.

You want to lightly continue the dream like scenario while barely staying conscious. At this point I normally hear a ringing noise in my head that I focus on. Then vibrations come, I remain passive and let them grow.  If any vibrations, ringing, or other strange things happen forget the scenario, slowly shift your focus LIGHTLY to whatever is happening. Become one with the feeling.

Like learning how to walk if you get this far you sorta have to figure it out on your own through trail and error. But the feeling is the most important, you become the feeling, you are the feeling.

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My theory on why this works:

"Don't do anything special"
Look we OBE naturally every night, so we're going to OBE no matter what we do. The question is whether we'll be conscious. So unless you're or doing this in the middle of the day, you don't need to stretch, mediate, et cetra, because you're going to sleep to relax!

"Tell yourself you're not going to project tonight with this technique."
You've probably never done it before, otherwise you wouldn't be reading this. If you've never done it before you probably REALLY want to do it. In my small insect like opinion if you think it may work your mind won't be calm enough. And I tell you it probably won't work, because it probably won't! What has worked? Nothing? So just do this technique and see what happens! But be warned, you'll probably just fall asleep the first few times! Key thing is to be passive, this is one way to do that.

"When you feel you're about to fall asleep a scenario come into your mind in a dream like manner."
We all know you have to clear your mind to OBE. Not. You have to clear your CONSCIOUS to OBE, not your SUBCONSCIOUS!!!!!#*@*!!*!*!*!* THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I CAN TEACH YOU! YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CLEAR TO OBE!

By letting (meaning allowing your subconciousness to think of something i.e. start the precursor to a dream) a scenario come into mind your focus is shifted and your consciousness is entertained. Normally at this point your subconscious uses this to slowly take over. It's trickery I tell you! Trickery!

The reason we use a scenario is because it's the natural way we fall asleep. It keeps us entertained so we don't end up talking to ourselves. And the subconciousness will take the scenario over for you, allowing our conscious mind to go deeper into oblivion.

The key here is to allow the subconscious to start taking over the scenario/fantasy BUT not give it full control. It will take it over and you may not notice it, by taking it over you forget to think because you're being entertained and baam you're out cold.

Think about the rope method, you imagine a scenario i.e. climbing a rope and hopefully you OBE. This works the same (yet less effective) way. You're hoping that the subconscious takes over the rope climbing but you hold on just a little bit.

It's not as effective because climbing a rope or ladder isn't very entertaining and it's not something you think about!

My method works by letting your subconscious do all the work and all you do is just barely hang on. Toshitsugu Takamatsu "The mongolian tiger", the last true Ninja said "You are all small and meaningless as insects, but when a small insect climbs on a horses tail, he can travel very far!" And this is what we are doing! lol.

"If any vibrations, ringing, or other strange things happen forget the scenario.."
This means you beat the trap your subconscious mind setup, your mind is calm enough that it slipped through the fort undetected! It also means you're calm enough not to think about anything but what you're focusing on. Don't try to change anything, just go along for the ride.

Comments / flames are greatly appreciated.   :-o

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Derik

You talk alot of sense, good shlt man!

kiwibonga

I've been using that exact technique for the past couple of weeks and I had some great results. It's actually quite a striking coincidence that you posted this now of all times!

2 weeks ago, I imagined myself walking out of my room and out the door, into my apartment building's hall. I talked about this in one of Skippy's threads, it produced an eerie lucid dream.

This week, I lied down, I needed to go to the bathroom but I was too tired to get up, I had been working a lot and I was just exhausted. I kept thinking "get up and go to the bathroom, you idiot!" I suddenly found myself in class. I looked at the teacher and telepathically told her "I'm going to the bathroom," she sent back an "Ok, we'll still be there when you come back!" So I exit the room, walk towards the university's bathroom, get in front of a urinal. I look behind me and suddenly notice that there's guitars everywhere. Guitars of all shapes and sizes on the bathroom floor. I exit the bathroom and realize there's guitars everywhere in the hall as well. "Is this a dream??" -- I wake up.

The next day, images started coming to me as I drifted to sleep, so I concentrated on them. I had been designing a website with rather dark colors for the past few days, and the design came into my vision, overlapping with a shadowy landscape. It became stronger and stronger until I was in the landscape. It was a beach, there were heavy clouds blocking the sun. I was sitting on a trampoline and there was a boat. The landscape was very dark and difficult to see, my mind wasn't too fresh either, I could still see the darkness behind my closed eyelids, so I didn't manage to stay in for too long. Suddenly, I found myself in my room with open eyes, and realized I was in sleep paralysis with astral vision. I tried to leave my body, but I was too  awake. I got up, left the room, and lost consciousness. I had actually projected for a minute there! This continued into another lucid dream where I watched my brother play the sequel to a video game that doesn't actually exist

The next day (yesterday), I watched an anime before going to bed. I kept thinking of it as I was falling asleep, and eventually became part of it. I was in the cartoon, creating my own episode! I woke up with a very heavy body... Sleep paralysis again.. I didn't manage to project that time, there was too much noise in the house and I woke up fully.

In the end, it pretty much qualifies as "phasing," but it's slightly different from the usual "wait for lights to appear" approach. There's a prerequisite, and that is above average dream recall. If your dream recall isn't top notch, you'll have a lot of trouble processing what happened.

I found that repetition and persistence, in the end, are what allows these episodes to happen. When you think of a situation while lying down, it will automatically take over. It's all about staying the course and not thinking of anything else until you are there.

"Don't do anything special" is indeed good advice -- when projecting, we take the exact same path as the one we take for regular sleep, there's always a "dream part" somewhere along the way, either in the form of hypnogogic imagery, a dream, or a lucid dream. The one difference with falling asleep normally is that you start out in control, and finish still in control. It's remarkably simple, yet not that obvious!

Just consciously act out a scenario, learn not to mentally process things, "just do it" without thinking "I'm doing it" and let it take over.

Something interesting about this method is how you not only pick your dreams, you also observe your mind picking the dreams for you... There's definitely a selection process going on, the "peak emotional event" of the day always makes it there somehow.
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Awakened_Mind

It seems to me like the method is a personal refinement of a concentration exercise. For conscious exit you need to be very concentrated. Meditation and "clearing the mind" are ways other people attain this. Nonetheless, I still think it focuses on concentrating.

The part where you mentioned the imagery that pops into your head. I find this a very effective technique personally when I am super tired as well. I've discovered that different methods are better suited to different physical and mental states. If I let an image come into my head, it will generally begin to go off on a tangent as I slowly fall asleep. It might be good as soon as you notice this, bring it back to an image you have consciously created. Then repeat the process. If you try to allow the mental imagery too far then I'm postulating that the likelihood of falling asleep will increase, especially if just beginning this exercise.

Steel Hawk, entangled in your message was much evidence of self doubt. You have realistically stated what long-term projectors are saying in another fashion.

Good work mate.

I wrote post on a technique that intially helped me a lot in stilling my mind by giving me something to focus on. I had insomnia and was not projecting at this stage. It actually, IMO, is responsible for my first spontaneous projections where I had no knowledge of OBE's at all.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=24600.0

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Lysear

I would have to agree with what is being said here generally. A few years back, I used to try this exact technique, while it didnt lead to projection, i did feel a real pull, like i was on the verge. in facr you've inspired me to try it tonight, right now. goodnight