How to have an OBE

sublime · July 20, 2003, 21:09:58

I would have to advise you to go purchase Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce. It will answer all of your questions. Either that or I think there are tutorials that you can go through on this website.

Zarklon · July 21, 2003, 02:53:12

I heard the book was very good escpecially for people just starting out.

I can answer some question for ya ..

1)Does anyone know of any techniques that I can try that have helped any of you out that I can try?

Well , try counting your breaths and relaxing with each exhale.. do this any way that feels comfortable .. as long as you count each breath whether it be inhales , exhales or both. .. when you start losing count or find it hard to keep track then it only means your physical body is being more relaxed and maybe imagery is setting in trying to draw you to sleep... stay away by counting and on each exhale remember to let your body go more limp .. any position is fine .. "laying on yer back helps IMO" -- when you feel strange feelings , dizzyness , floaty , sinking , vibrating , tingling .. then post about it and go from there ..

2)What is a lucid dream?

A lucid dream is a dream in which you become aware that you are dreaming .. im pretty sure that the straight forward definition of it heh.

3)What is the difference between astral travel and an OBE?

Well.. as far as I'm concerned they are the same thing .. an astral travel may have some sort of goal to it .. like , you have a purpose for leaving your body (OBE) .. and OBE can be spontaneous like a near death experience but usually we refer to OBE and Astral travel as meaning the same thing ..

4)Are OBE's real or fake?

Good question .. I've proven one of my experiences so as far as I'm concerned they are real. Anyone who says they are fake are just not experience enough to bein the right plane at the right time.. hehehe They are real dude

5)What is it like to have an OBE?

Its like nothing you've ever experienced in your life ... imagine laying down.. being relaxed .. letting your mind race until you realize your thinking of something awkward (like a huge cherio trying to kill you ) etc.. and all of a sudden you may hear a loud CLICK or BANG and your suddenly vibration .. feels like a vibrator is lodged in your joints .. uncomfortable at first .. scary also.. its a rush and a challenge to have an OBE. You feel like your in 2 places at once very close to each other and you sit up ... but you look on the bed and there you are laying down ... freaked out you stand out of bed ... before long , your back in your body and sit up again .. its interesting .. funny .. and sometimes scary

6)When is the best time of day to have an OBE?

I'de say when your body is tired after a workout or excercise and your brain is somewhat active. Or hell just be like me and try it everynight before you sleep .. if you fail , you get a much better rest from doin the breathing thing I mentioned above .. feels like you added 3 hours to your sleep

Thers no real best time I dont think..

7)When you relax all of your muscles in your body do you have to lay on your back or can you lay in any position that you are confortable in?

Any position will do , layin on yer back may help you notice the exit sensations more ... I've projected sitting in a schooldesk straight up ... and laying down face first on the desk , and laying on my side in bed, layin on my back in bed , and..... well thats about it. Your choice ..

8)Does anyone know of any relaxation techniques that I can try, that will help me relax my body?

Use the technique above , as long as you exhale and let your body relax more and more each time , and keep counting it gets you closer to the mind awake/body asleep state ... mind counting , body relaxing/sleeping ... Also if you do that technique after only 5 hours of sleep , wake up for about 5 minutes from an alarm clock .. kinda wake yerself up a little but not much , then go back to project .. you greatly increase your chances to OBE try it ... its called the Interrupted sleep technique .. do some searching in the forums for it.

I hope I've answered your questions like you wanted heh. Let me know how it goes.

Frère · July 21, 2003, 10:39:24

If you read a little this forum, you might find other answers to these very common questions. Whenever you feel these vibrations, I'm sure you're almost done, but I don't think I felt them myself...

Sinestro · July 22, 2003, 13:11:17

Ok Zarklon, I try to have an OBE last night and I did the counting my breath technique and it didn't work, I will try again tonight. I don't understand, how are you suppose to be able to push our of your body? When will you know that you are in the astral world? When you are in the astral world do you feel like you are when you are conscious, or awake? Look I don't think that OBE's are REAl, I think that they are all just a dream, or all in your mind, because I haven't been able to have one. Until I am able to have an OBE, or someone is able to prove to me that they are real then, YES I will beleive in them.

Havok · July 22, 2003, 14:05:20

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Originally posted by Sinestro

Ok Zarklon, I try to have an OBE last night and I did the counting my breath technique and it didn't work, I will try again tonight. I don't understand, how are you suppose to be able to push our of your body? When will you know that you are in the astral world? When you are in the astral world do you feel like you are when you are conscious, or awake? Look I don't think that OBE's are REAl, I think that they are all just a dream, or all in your mind, because I haven't been able to have one. Until I am able to have an OBE, or someone is able to prove to me that they are real then, YES I will beleive in them.

My friend,
Even if I still cannot project myself I can tell you that I believe in Oobes.
Just the fact that alot of users managed to project is a clue that oobes are real (well...metaphorically "real"[

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If you continue with skepticism you'll never attempt to have an oobe and you will blame yourself forever for this failure.
Just open your mind and let all kind of skepticism fly away...it's real if you really believe it! [

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Havok

WalkerInTheWoods · July 23, 2003, 06:00:36

Sinestro, I do not have a problem with you believing that OBEs are real or not. In fact I like it when someone has a different view and can present good points to actually make me think. The problem that has stirred up the forum is you telling everyone that OBE's are not real and being disrespectful of those of us who think they are. It is fine to present your ideas and facts to back them up, but making comments such as me being 25 and still believing in OBEs as if I am believing in Santa Clause or something is disrespectful. If you will read the posts on this forum you will see that our ideas on OBEs are not based on faith alone but that we use reason in our search for what is real. You seem to disreguard our ideas and reasoning simply because they do not fall in line with your ideas. You do not have to agree with any of us, just give us a little respect.

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Yes fallnangel177 I don't understand, why should it be that you have to beleive in something in order for it to work?

Belief is required in part for you to be able to have an OBE. In order to willfully project it requires you to train yourself to be able to perceive other planes. Now you do not have to have some blinding faith that OBEs are real, you just have to believe that they are possible and that you can do it. I think that I have miss read what you believe though. You believe that they do exist, just that they are in your mind. Thinking about it, I will say that you do not have to believe that OBEs take place outside of the body, but only that they do occur and that you can do it. You do not have to have any belief at all for an OBE to occur. They can happen naturally without any effort at times. But to do it at will does require you to will yourself to do it which requires one to belief that they are atleast possible. But with an solid belief that OBEs are not real it might cause you difficulty in doing it. It might serve you best not so much to belief that they are real but be more open to the possibility that they could be real.

rantboi · July 23, 2003, 13:32:47

I don't think you really need to believe in it, but you do have to be open to new things. If you are not open to it, then I doubt you'll ever make it.

-Ater

Zarklon · July 24, 2003, 02:45:42

Sinestro , I'm glad you tried the breathing thing but I'm sorry it didnt work for you. I find no problem with you not believing OBEs are real. You will find out one day and maybe one day soon that they are not all in your mind.

The breathing thing takes a while to work for some of us .. maybe if you let me know Why it didnt work or what you felt during and after the attempt and maybe I can help you. There are MANY techniques to try , dont limit yourself to just mine .. that one used to work in my early stages of OBE practice. I havent had an OBE in about a week but it doesnt bother me much .. before that experience .. it was like a month and a half beforeI had one .. I've been runnin dry lately so to speak but my OBEs and attempts are still fun no matter what. You dont have to believe in OBEs to have one .. and who knows maybe youll be layin down trying it and freak yourself out when it happends .. maybe it will scare you into believing them

Good luck , ... free your mind!

"Prying open my third eye!"--TOOL

WalkerInTheWoods · July 24, 2003, 06:19:44

When you first have an OBE it is rather overwhelming. Reguardless of where you think it takes place, I do not think you can say that they are not real. Once experienced you see that they are real on some level. They are not like dreams, but rather the opposite. In dreams you are not very lucid, but usually when you have an OBE your consciousness is higher than it is normally on the physical. Atleast that is how it usually is for me.

There is a technique that might work best for you if you have good concentration and able to have good control over your surface mind's thoughts. It is rather simple, yet does require control. First just remember that no matter what technique you use the main goal of all is to put your body to sleep while you keep your mind awake. With this method you need to get comfortable. I do not advise the position you usually fall asleep in, but you can lay down just use a different position. Now relax your body much like you are going to take a nap. Get comfortable. Once your body is relaxed let your mind drift off slowly. The goal here is to trick yourself into thinking you are going to take a nap. You must be aware of your mind and thoughts at all times. You let your mind drift and when you feel it is about to go to sleep you need to snap it back awake, but only your mind and not your body. Keep doing this a few times, letting your mind get close to sleep and just before it falls over into it snap it back awake. After a few times you may find yourself snapping yourself out of your body on one of the attempts. I have had success with this technique many times, but it does require you to know how you fall asleep. In order to get use to this you should try staying conscious as long as you can at night before you fall asleep. Try to keep your mind awake and just pay attention to how it feels falling asleep.

Sinestro · July 20, 2003, 18:08:44

Does anyone know of any techniques that I can try that have helped any of you out that I can try? What is a lucid dream? What is the difference between astral travel and an OBE? Are OBE's real or fake? What is it like to have an OBE? When is the best time of day to have an OBE? When you relax all of your muscles in your body do you have to lay on your back or can you lay in any position that you are confortable in? Does anyone know of any relaxation techniques that I can try, that will help me relax my body?

Any Info would be very helpful
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