I am VERY keen...

[Mobius]

Hi QGJ

I've allready posted pretty much all my involvements in OBE,so I wont bore you with repeating it.But it happened to me young about 6 & could have been any one or a combination of all which did it.I know I had a NDE when I was 6
but a few other things equaled that in terms of OBE's.It was very hard growing up in a Catholic/Christian family knowing what I knew,but being told otherwise.I,m not sure if any of the great men who are worshipped or revered wanted to mass produce churches,temples or whatever in their name or for their cause,I,m pretty sure they just wanted to pass on the message to try what they were saying for themselves,a way of life,not a buisness.

I feel lucky to be alive & am grateful for what I have & what I can do,with my physical body & my etheric/astral body.You might have to be more specific with your question as volumes could be written by any one of us on any topic you mentioned in your post. (Ok thats just an excuse for,I,m tired,my back is sore & I want to lay down)

Good journeys mate,may the BBQ sauce be with you.

Mobius

[SPASTRAL]

Hi Qui-Gon,

I haven't been able to project yet!  I'm very close though and really enjoying the clarity of mind and some fabulous changes that are ongoing in me:

I feel a bit ashamed to admit this (being 30 years old!) but I had some nasty experiences as a child that made me afraid of the dark.  up to around 6 weeks ago, I would have every light in the house on, a night light in my bedroom (unless I had my girlfriend staying, then I could cuddle up and would be fine)

Yes, this might make you all laugh, but a phobia is a phobia (you should see me if a wasp comes flying in the house - - OHHHH boy!!! - the neighbours laugh and laugh when they see a 6'1 tall strapping big guy come running out of the house screaming like a child!!)

AAAannyway! I have read a lot of stuff by robert bruce recently, including listening to the Art Bell interview.  Although some of the things he has witnessed have made me in some ways want to learn a lot about phsycic S.D. They have (with a mixture of daily meditation) almost completely cured my fear.

I have been walking round the house in pitch black (my eyesight in the dark was almost non existent, since trying to project, I have near perfect night vision)  If I sometimes get the feeling that something is watching me in the dark, I now think to myself "So what -! what will happen will happen" then I shine with a loving, consuming bright light and feel secure.

I also tend to:

Look in the mirror and smile at myself these days
Drive to work singing songs (badly!) at the top of my voice
Don't get bad tempered when drivers cut me up
almost completely cut out alcohol out of my diet (except for weekends, I was drinking very heavily up until about a month ago)
Have time for people
I now say a little prayer for protection, and actually feel like someone is listening to it!

these might be trivial for some, but for me, I feel like my heart has blossomed and I am being reborn.  

For me it's little things in life.  I feel like I'm destined for great things (not material riches i might add) I have always felt like something small was missing from my life and that I'm here to serve a purpose.  I think I'm starting to wake up to it now!


Regards,
Spencer

[Qui-Gon Jinn]

Mobius, you had an NDE by the age of six??!´  May I ask what brought on an NDE so early, we are talking Near Death Experience here right??

Perhaps I could be more specific with my question (-s), but I didn´t intend to narrow it down to any specific "area", whatever the forum members have, shall I say "gained", from the OBE´s they´ve had is what I am very interrested in hearing, so if you guys wanna share bring it on, essay or no essay...   if they/you want to write an essay about how the experiences have changed them/you - well then I´m more than happy to listen..  

Hope your back will get better soon mate, and thx for your reply...

Spencer, unless you are harming anyone on purpose there is zilch to be ashamed of, I have a bit trouble understanding myself, intellectual I have but then there is the other part which is much harder to convince...   as you said - a phobia is a phobia, and to be honest with you I share the wasp thingie, hehee... guess I´ve been stung one time to many, I reckon my neighbours would have at least much fun as yours seeing a 6´4 guy doing what you described....  I just hope I won´t get one big bugger in the car while driving..
KABOOM!!
"So what -! what will happen will happen"  - that is a great attitude that´ll surely help you "through the dark" as well as other situations in life...  not such an easy attitude to hold at all times but it sure helps..

 I am happy for you, you waking up to a purpose and all, and if you feel you are in for great things to happen you ARE, that I believe !!  

 Take care //Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

[SPASTRAL]

Hi Qui-gon

I've never actually been stung, the wasps fall about laughing when they see me waving my hands around while shrieking like bruce lee on speed!

I once had a car full of people (I was driving and was on a very busy road) I stopped at traffic lights and a wasp flew in.  At this point I jumped out screaming and caused a pretty major tailback on the road as I would not get back in until I was positive it had gone!  The other drivers thought it was hilarious though! brought some fun into thier lives.

It's not just wasps, it's anything that flies around my face.  When I was a kid, I got into fishing for a while.  I bought a fishing tackle box, a BIG bag filled with maggots etc.  after about an hour of fishing, I got bored and went home, put the tackle box in my room and forgot about fishing forever.

As I said earlier, I was scared of the dark.  One night I;m laid in bed with the covers pulled up over my head, I could hear a low pitch buzzing /  tap tap tap tap tapping sound.  I eventually found the courage to get out of bed and find out what was causing the noise.  

I traced the noise to my tackle box.....Unlocked it......opened the lid......and to my absolute terror, about a thousand flies flew up straight at my face......AAAAARRRGGGHHH.........

I still cringe to this day......

Thanx for the mail.  there are some good people on this site.

All the best.

Spencer.

[Veo]

Hey Qui-Gon,

I shook Steve Greer's hand last night and I was thinking about you at the time wishing that you were there too. It's funny because I had never heard of the disclosure project or given much thought to UFO's until I saw one of your posts a while back. Since then I have been hearing about Steven and his work in many different places. When I saw he was coming to my city I knew there must be something in the synchronicity of it all.

Perhaps that is one aspect of the work that I am doing with OBE's. I feel like I am opening up to more subtle things. Practicing my awareness. And when I get some kind of signal from the universe I am questioning that there may be something really behind it. Perhaps it is called developing my intuition.

A small example - the other night my wife and I went to look at a house for sale. We are looking but not committed to buying because it would be a big stretch financially. Anyway, when I got out of the car, right by my car door was a dead bird - it didn't look injured in any way - just dead. Now that seems like a sign to me - not to buy the house. But is it really a sign? I don't know. It turns out that the house could be the one, the price is not too bad and my wife really wants to buy it. So, do I just ignore it?

By the way I was very impressed by how intelligent and incredibly well connected Steven Greer is. The magnitude of the project that he has taken on is staggering. So, thanks for speaking about it and spreading the word. It will be very exciting to see and possibly participate as it all unfolds.

Veo

Unless we change directions, we are likely to end up where we're going.
Chinese Proverb

[Qui-Gon Jinn]

Hey Spence,

  Bruce Lee on speed, now that´d be a sight..  Jet Li go hide !!
As for the traffic lil incident, hahaa...  darn, I´d love to see that one to!!  
You´d surely have a go at winning the 1st price in Americas most funniest home videos or whatever the show is called, if you had it on tape...  I´d probably react in a similar way, hehe ...  we should get a "wasp cam" in our cars just in case the situation unfolds again..  I can see it in front of my eyes, hahaah!!!

The tackle box incident sounds as if taken from the horror movie "Fly" or something, creepy!!  I actually had a dream years back - where I opened a giantly big container of something, and out flew thousands of killer wasps....  right towards me - AAAAHHHH!!!  


VEO, you shook Greer´s hand did you, maaan!  The man is a #@#§!#£ hero.
We´re talking about a person who "gave up" his life as he knew it, quit his high positioned job, gave up millions of $´s in income, to pursuit the truth and handing it to the public (not the opposite as some do...) - for the good of man kind and whole of the world really, the implications could´t be any more profound, a shame people in general aren´t able to grasp that...  (- "Well so what if there are aliens out there, how could that change the world?")
After all, disclosing the truth would bring forward technology to get the world out of fossile fuels, help us get rid of world poverty (every week, somewhere around 40 000 children starves to death) in a very short time, stop the global pollution which is destroyng our eco system and thereby, getting the world back on its feet really.   What is more important than that at this present time of history??

Well, a person doing this, can not be called anything but a hero really!

He was back home in Carolina last night was he?´  I wonder if they audiotaped it and put it under "audio" on disclosureproject´s homepage, you can find many earlier interviews and the likes with Steven and other brilliant people in his "team" there in case you didn´t know.
  They´re fighting against massive powers, but if I could choose one person to lead the "good side" it´d be - yea you guessed it...  a very intelligent, knowledgable and articulate individual with courage way up on the charts!!

I understand he used the chinese proverb last night - again... lol..  he always do that one, but it´s good, simple but.. true...

As for the dead bird, I can´t tell you if it was a "sign", that is something you gotta "decide"--- I can only say that if it had happened to me, I´d probably see it as a pure coincidence, but then again, who knows?´  If your intuition screams out loud that it might be a "sign", then perhaps it is... a toughie..

Anyway, thx for letting me know about Greer (you lucky bastard;).

 Take care //Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

[Mobius]

G,day QGJ

Don't ya hate that! I posted a reply to you after you asked about the NDE,but when I pushed reply it wouldn't log on to astral pulse again & ditched my post.

I'll make this one brief,I had the NDE when I was 6 yes,I rushed ahead of my mother & sister at a pedestrian/zebra crossing,being a hyperactive little kid.I didn't even see it! an army jeep driving in front of me & whammo,hits me & knocks me flying through the air.The problem is that mum told me that afterwards,at the hospital,as far as I was concerned I didn't get knocked through the air,I just stayed there,on the crossing.But I don't know how I got back into my body,can't remember & it seems all too distant now.Not a scratch or fracture anywhere & they released me a few hours later.

The back I'm afraid,no fix yet mate.One ruptured disc L5/S1 with sciatic nerve compression plus two more squashed ones above it,ouch.Will sort it out soon I hope,but not another operation hopefully.

Good journeys

Mobius

[Qui-Gon Jinn]

G´day Moby.

 I know the feeling, I´ve had two posts of mine, long ones typically, lost when my puter decided go on a strike just when I hit the post- button...            .. when writing long posts I have learned it is wise to copy the text written once in a while and paste some other place, just in case...

You had a big accident when you were young didn´t you, jee - many don´t come out of those kinda incidents with their lifes intact, and you walk out of their with no scratches even...  your father isn´t named Clark is he..?´ *hint*

So what might have happened was you were so schocked by this big jeep hitting you, that you were slammed outta your body and feeling as if you were flying through the air. I´ve heard people sometimes find themselves outta their body when traumatized, so that could very well be the case, but wouldn´t it still be an OBE?  I mean you weren´t near dying after all...   but who is counting..  how did you got the back injuries btw?  I have had my share of back problems through the years, but not from an accident, more like playing to much tennis with a very "tempting" (but effective) serve technique...  a pelvis (hope/think that is the right word) that jumped outta location more than once for example..  not so nice...  by the sound of it, yours doesn´t sound very nice either..

ohh, and Mobius - I was listening to a Jeff Rense archived radio show on the net last night - half way through it I "heard"; - "hey, I wanna hear this one" and then a I saw a note which was signed with "Mobius"... sounds weird I know...  perhaps my subconcious created that lil voice and note in my head since it may know we have a few common "interrests", I dunno..
 But since it felt a lil "weird" I guess it cannot hurt giving you the "RealPlayer Location URL", it is as folows; http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1011490&location=lng - it´s about chemtrails, don´t know if you are interrested in that, I wasn´t very much before listening to that show, it was very interresting though...   so if you have a couple of hours free you may wanna check it out....  

  Take care //Qui-Gon


- Your focus determines your reality -

[Mobius]

G,day QGJ

I don't remember much of the incident with the jeep,wish my mother would tell me more,but what I do remember is firstly things got very bright,in fact blindingly white.Then I went into what you would call a tunnel but seemed more like an arch,just floating,it was darker but not dark.I don't remember conciously going towards it,more like I was a slow moving helium balloon going through a tunnel with an upward grade.Don't remember much more,maybe pieces will unfold as I get older,just woke up from being knocked unconcious & no vital signs ( not sure how long no vital signs,but looks like they came back,will pilfer more knowledge off my mother as I am going down to Sydney for a visit on 17th of may)so after having OBE's for a while now I'm not sure about the classification of NDE's.

I,ve heard twice now someone mention there was a Mobius in some other forum,I know I didn't post in the one you are talking about as I cannot play sound files on this computer,I just write down the URL & do it over the in-laws place.Would be interesting meeting another Mobius & see where he got the name from.I got my name from a series called "The Necroscope" by Brian Lumley.The hero of the book Harry,is clairvoyant & hears dead people in their graves.To cut a long story short he starts learning off long dead scientists & scholars,in particular one called Mobius a famous & long dead mathematician,who teaches him how to travel anywhere anytime in one step,by mathematical formulas that he visualizes,very handy & the books had so many cool psi operators & great story line.The character Harry ended up just specializing on the Mobius continuum ,which had a symbol that looked like the figure 8,basically a circle or loop turned over on itself to form an 8.

Good journeys all

Mobius

[Grenade01]

SPASTRAL:
I was sort of scared of the dark for a long time too
but then
It was actually because I had so many sleeping disorders as a child
I would have night terrors about once a week (sometimes very violent)
Sleep paralysis about 15-20 times a night
a few spontaneous OBE's as well...
it all freaked me out pretty good.. I would have like dozens of dreams and a lot of nightmares too.....it all pretty much stopped dead at about 13 but I was kind of scared for like 3 or so more years before I discovered more about obe's and meditation and ...Now I welcome sleep and darkness much more

but.....err..what was i gonna say?
I dont remember

But.......... I chased my mom with a meat cleaver once while I was asleep
hahaha

its a wonder my head didnt turn around and puke green pea soup

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[Qui-Gon Jinn]

.. to hear if, and if - how, having experienced OBE´s changed your life, perspectives, values, beliefs and what have you... ´?

    Do you see the world (-s) around you differently, got rid of any fears etc etc...    

  Please all of you who´ve had "100% clarity"- OBE´s, fill in below what you "got from it".....

   In friendship //Qui-Gon Richard


- Your focus determines your reality -