I just CAN'T do it. My ex-gf had no problem getting to the vibrational stages, but I've never even gotten there. I'm afraid I'll give up soon. Can someone just tell give me a hand with ANYTHING. I mean, I can lay down, I can quiet my mind, I can even get to the point where I can stop feeling my body, but I can't get any further. Pointers, please?
QuoteI just CAN'T do it
You're right. You can't.
At least not when you repeatedly tell yourself this. It may sound psychological....because it is. This is all about mind and consciousness.
You say you get to the point where you stop feeling your body...what else? What happens at that point for you and how long do you remain at that point?
Are you attempting and OBE or phasing?
Keep in mind that vibrations are not mandatory. I never get them myself. So don't worry about looking for symptoms others experience.
If you get to the point where you can't feel your body, simply lie there and observe yourself...your thoughts. Give it at least another 5 minutes of absolutely no movement. You should soon get the sense that your arm is suddenly moving or floating. And it will feel like it is not lying where you know it is. Whatever you do, don't get excited (I know, hard to do), and don't move. At this point, you only have the sense of a partial seperation. If I'm doing it this way, I always sense my arms go first. They start floating about a 45 degree angle from my body and a few inches above where they are physically lying. Keep lying still and eventually you'll feel your legs loosen as well. For me, the torso is always last when I'm trying to do this while awake. However, if I wake during the night and try it, I'm so relaxed, I simply roll out.
Like anything else it takes time, patience, and relaxation. 99% of the population think they are fully relaxed when they are not. You may want to first do a good work-out -- run, bike, weights, something that really wears you out physically. Then lie down and relax. Your muscles will be much more easily relaxed if they're completely exhausted.
Good luck!
Try meditating and raising your energy levels in your chakras. It would of never have been possible for me to have an OBE without doing that. It's important not to have any blockages otherwise your etheric body won't be able to leave.
Novice:
I've tried both, but the only time I've stopped feeling my body was when I wasn't really trying anything. I was just lying there, waiting to see what would happen. It got to the point where I couldn't feel my body, but I had the sense that I was below it, in my water bed. I don't think I was actually seperated, I think it was just a feeling.
Markulous:
How do I raise my energy levels? And how do I know if I have blockages.
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I appreciate both of you for helping.
I believe in Robert Bruce's book Astral Dynamics is where I learned how to do it. That book was like my bible to OBE's. He will tell you in there how to raise your energy levels.
Once you learn how to move energy through your body you will be able to tell if anything is really blocked. Meditating a lot though can really help.
I echo what Novice says.
Practice, have a PMA (positive mental attitude) and try this technique:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/how_to_enter_the_astral_from_a_dream-t19319.0.html
If this is difficult for you, try this approach:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/what_is_phasing_and_how_can_i_do_it-t17413.0.html
Good luck and happy travels!
Jen
Thanks Jen! I was just about to link to Frank's post in this reply -- but you already did that!
There are quite a few people who advocate energy work prior to and critical to having an OBE. I had never done any energy work at all when I realized what I was doing. So I don't think it applies to everyone, but that's just based on my own experience.
As for phasing, I prefer this method. Have you tried running down Frank's post that Jen linked to? How long have you practiced? I had been doing phasing, following something very similar to what Frank describes before I came here. I had no idea what I was doing, but had been doing it for a few years...so I feel very comfortable in recommending his method as it works quite well for me and many others here.
The easiest way to start is with noticing, like Frank explains in great detail in the post. Don't look for success the first, third, or fifteenth time in terms of phasing. Instead, look at success in 'baby steps.' If you can successfully sit an entire 'session' (however long you decide to practic) and really notice your blood or breath or specific muscle or whatever, then that's success. Doing this is like meditation, in that in hones your concentration and helps you learn to focus inside and not ouside. Eventually, this leads to noticing not only the physical body, but the 'stuff' going on behind the eye lids -- what the mind starts doing and seeing. Then your focus shifts from the body to what is in your 'mind's eye,' so to speak. This, in turn, leads to phasing.
Use of the imagination and senses I find immensely helpful in this -- I hesitate to say necessary, although it could be. I do them because I find it much easier for me to phase when incorporating as many senses as I can. Plus practicing the imagary is really fun (or at least it is for me!)
Lastly, relax and enjoy the time you practice. You will have success. You simply need to stop trying for it. (and no, that's not an oxymoron!) :wink:
Above all, be patient. You'll get results soon enough. Just remember, each time you practice you learn something, whether you realize it at the moment or not. Also, it is most beneficial if you make this a daily practice and not sporadic. Say, every evening for 20-30 minuites you sit in a quiet room and practice relaxing and noticing. This is the equivalent of a 1/2 hour sitcom show == and far more rewarding. If you commit to this, and follow Frank's advice in this post, you should start seeing/feeling things happen within a month.
My favorite technique is to use sleep and dreaming as pathways to astral projection. I devote myself to dream recall and lucidity rather than AP per se, because if I can do the former, then I will be able to do the latter. Don't get too discouraged when you have already made steps to your final goal. It's the process itself that should be fun, not the arbitrary goal posts along the way.