Stuff like meditation,telekinesis,telepathy,and stuff like that doesn't seem to work for me.The only thing that works for me is astral projection and that is only when i am falling asleep and giving my mind suggestions.
By the way astral projection and lucid dreaming DOES work for me.It's eveything else that doesn't.
You don't have a problem.
I'm going to attempt at putting my two cents in here, I'll probably fail miserably but here goes anyway:
I don't know why I want to start of here but I get the feeling perhaps what you mean by astral projecting is sort of a fantasy or even dream state that you are inducing. That's not a bad thing. I'm not one who believes that AP'ing includes merely thinking about, contemplating or imagining being in another place at the same time such as thinking about standing in line at McDonalds. I guess if it helps us to believe we are capable, there's no harm maybe. Oh, this is a huge can of worms here...
For me, telepathy is a natural result of OBE (if we can say that AP=OBE). Natural result like taking a bath and coming out wet. After time away from OBE/AP, you tend to dry off (to keep the analogy going here).
I also think that telekinesis is for the outlandishly talented and perhaps even the individual desireless of such gifts.
Meditation and a contemplative/discplined lifestyle is where you should continue to focus. Then these things will become clear and the answers will start coming from within after a while. Continue to practice energy raising techniques as outlined by Robert Bruce, et al.
Quote from: sterlingindigo on February 15, 2008, 14:21:27
You don't have a problem.
I'm going to attempt at putting my two cents in here, I'll probably fail miserably but here goes anyway:
I don't know why I want to start of here but I get the feeling perhaps what you mean by astral projecting is sort of a fantasy or even dream state that you are inducing. That's not a bad thing. I'm not one who believes that AP'ing includes merely thinking about, contemplating or imagining being in another place at the same time such as thinking about standing in line at McDonalds. I guess if it helps us to believe we are capable, there's no harm maybe. Oh, this is a huge can of worms here...
For me, telepathy is a natural result of OBE (if we can say that AP=OBE). Natural result like taking a bath and coming out wet. After time away from OBE/AP, you tend to dry off (to keep the analogy going here).
I also think that telekinesis is for the outlandishly talented and perhaps even the individual desireless of such gifts.
Meditation and a contemplative/discplined lifestyle is where you should continue to focus. Then these things will become clear and the answers will start coming from within after a while. Continue to practice energy raising techniques as outlined by Robert Bruce, et al.
Trust me when i astral project it is WAY beyond dreaming.And as for your other advice thanks and i will keep it in mind.It was helpful getting someone else's opinion.
Quote from: sterlingindigo on February 15, 2008, 14:21:27
I don't know why I want to start of here but I get the feeling perhaps what you mean by astral projecting is sort of a fantasy or even dream state that you are inducing.
I think your getting astral projection mixed up with lucid dreaming.Astral projection is were you make your spirit leave your body and walk around in the real world or another dimension called the astral plane like a ghost.Lucid dreaming is were your dreaming and become fully aware that you are dreaming and then are able to"wake up" inside your dream and are then able to control what happens in the dream simply by thinking about it.Is that what you meant when you said the words dream state? :?
Ok, like I said, I'm not sure why I wanted to go there. Sounds like you have had some real OBE's and lucid dreams or at least know the difference.
No telepathy from being out there, really?! Perhaps it is unnoticeable to you or your confidence is low or you are not getting accurate feedback. It's hard for me to believe that you have OBE's with no telepathy/psychic gifts. Do you mean precognition or knowing what someone else is thinking/feeling? Perhaps you are better at it than you give yourself credit for. Perhaps you are a better sender than receiver? Do you hear a voice/voices? Not to freak anybody out here. Why don't you voice your intent then next time you are out and ask for an answer (or ask to see)? Please let us know what you get.
As for telekinesis, I don't have it. I think of Anakin Skywalker showing off for Padme and have no desire that kind of gift.
Email, I'd like to discuss more with you.
Quote from: sterlingindigo on February 15, 2008, 18:40:59
Ok, like I said, I'm not sure why I wanted to go there. Sounds like you have had some real OBE's and lucid dreams or at least know the difference.
No telepathy from being out there, really?! Perhaps it is unnoticeable to you or your confidence is low or you are not getting accurate feedback. It's hard for me to believe that you have OBE's with no telepathy/psychic gifts. Do you mean precognition or knowing what someone else is thinking/feeling? Perhaps you are better at it than you give yourself credit for. Perhaps you are a better sender than receiver? Do you hear a voice/voices? Not to freak anybody out here. Why don't you voice your intent then next time you are out and ask for an answer (or ask to see)? Please let us know what you get.
As for telekinesis, I don't have it. I think of Anakin Skywalker showing off for Padme and have no desire that kind of gift.
Email, I'd like to discuss more with you.
I don't have much telepathy.But i do have psychic visions.
Quote from: zorgblar on February 15, 2008, 12:15:08
Stuff like meditation,telekinesis,telepathy,and stuff like that doesn't seem to work for me.The only thing that works for me is astral projection and that is only when i am falling asleep and giving my mind suggestions.
Just like physical stuff (maths, english, drama, music, biology), we can't be good at everything. Be thankful for what you
can do!
Sarah