I need help projecting plz read

[fredhedd]

welcome to the board.  

have you read ad yet?  how about the treatises that you can access from the main page?  there are also many different projection tek's taht you should be able to look up on here.  i know that i've seen some really good ones.  

it seems as though you are doing well.  the vibes are a really good sign of progress and should actually push you out at times.  

when you say you awoke on your second try, do you mean you were asleep?  

keep trying different projection tek's.  the point shift method works well for me and i believe robert uses it as well.  he may have said something like it was the most effective proj tek he's tried so far.

do you make any progress w/ your proj attempts?  have you had any half projections yet?

[RandomName]

Welcome to the board, and thank goodness for a replacement with common sense.

The yellow hue was probably your eyes suddenly exposed to light. This happens to me, but it is green instead.

My suggestion is to set an alarm clock to 2 hours earlier than normal, get up, dance arounda bit(meaning get something accomplished) then go back to bed and attempt AP. This will have your body physically relaxed and your mind will be easier to control because its still in the mood to dream.

Just watching the back of your eyelids while applying this method leads to astral phasing, which I had some fun with the other day.

[Nick]

Hi KosmoJ,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse forum! [] In addition to the excellent advice given above, feel free to use the search engine at the top of the page.

Also, as was indicated, you might want to read over Robert Bruce's book Astral Dynamics or download his Treatise on OBE which you can also do at his website:

http://astraldynamics.com/

Finally, take a look at our file library for some good worthwhile information.

Very best,

[KosmoJ]

Hey, thanks for all the great suggestions. I plan on trying alot of that tonight (it seems to work better for me after I eat and take a shower).  No, I was not asleep, I think I may have been in a light trance.  I felt some of the heaviness in my body but it was not parylized.  I suddenly awoke because of some slight disturbance, however it felt very powerful.  Now I understand about the yellow hue..(Thanks)  I was also wondering if I could purchase Bruce's book in a local bookstore (I live in Virginia,USA).  I have read most of his treatise now, and am hungry for more.. lol.  Thanks for all the suggestions I really appreciate them.

[WalkerInTheWoods]

Most bookstores I have been in here in TN, USA have Astral Dynamics so you should be able to find it in VA. If not Amazon.com has it.

[AstralTym]

your problem is probably that you're trying to pull yourself out
i've had a decent amount of experiences where i think i can physically "move" myself out of my body, and i always ended up failing or just moving my physical self.  my suggestion is next time, let yourself fall into a deep trance, and just focus on the meditation itself rather than trying to force out.  i think the main trick to projecting is to not focus on the projection itself.  use your mind to get out, and thought/force to move away after you're out.  the reason i don't think pulling or forcing works is because you're almost physically moving, and you need to be bodily asleep for everything to go right.  i hope this helps, sorry if it's gibberish

[KosmoJ]

Thank you, that's not jibberish at all, it helps.  I'm going to try that tonight.  I agree with you completely.  I was trying to "force" myself out.  But I have a question for you experienced people... When I was trying to project, I was sort of "flexing" my body trying to get out and it provided a tingeling sensation.  I could have sworn my physical self was flexing, but it was not.  Is this a good or bad thing?  

Thanks,
Kosmo

[Tisha]

KosmoJ, it is good to hear from you.  That shifty feeling you are referring to is your Astral Body detaching from the physical.  It's a good sign!  The vibrations can come on shortly after you feel yourself shifting.

The trick is to try to stay neutral when you get the vibes (it's hard at first, it's so weird).  Any bit of excitement or urgency will ruin it.  Just relax, sink into the vibrations and - - - -

(and this is when so many of us fail [])

What works for me:  surrendering myself to the Will of  . . .  god, the universe, whatever you want to call it.  I deepen the intensity of the vibrations by sinking into them; i.e., making myself heavier, and then I completely FLOP - - - if I even get this far - - - no tension in the body whatsoever, and then imagingining myself floating out of my body.  

Sometime askings my higher self or my guide for help works.  Try it sometime!

[KosmoJ]

Hey, it's me again and I need one last little bit of help.. I read all your posts and they helped alot, thanks so much.  But I have been having trouble getting into a trance lately because right as I am about to slip in, my left eye starts spasming uncontrolably.  It sometimes causes my eye to open, therefore ruining the trance.  At first I thought I was seeing through my eyelids as described by many, but it was just the spasming opening up the eye.  Does anyone else experience this? Is there any way to correct it?  Post with some idea's plzz!  

Thanks so much,
Kosmo

[jc84corvette]

"Hello, I'm 13 years old, and don't worry.. I'm alot more mature then that other kid who keeps posting... heh"

Heh about time the messiah came[]

[KosmoJ]

Hello, I'm 13 years old, and don't worry.. I'm alot more mature then that other kid who keeps posting... heh.  Well I have been having some trouble having an OBE.  I get to a point of total relaxation by imagining hands massaging me and once I'm relaxed, I begin to more tingle then vibrate...  Then, I try to "pull" my Astral self out of my physical body using an invisible rope or ribbon.  It is at this point in which I just can't manage to get out.  On my second try, I awoke, and could not tell if I was in reality, or in the Astral plane, because everything was in a yellow hue, but I soon found out I was in the real world.  Does anyone have any suggestions?