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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: Risu no Kairu on October 09, 2003, 03:00:11

Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Risu no Kairu on October 09, 2003, 03:00:11
All I can suggest to you is that you try some of those wards at this site and others, or get a copy of PPSD.

Oh, and, uh, just because you wake up, that doesn't mean other things   can't mess with you. It might have been safer for you to stay in your trance and told it to go away or something.
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Nagual on October 09, 2003, 08:51:10
I had a similar experience: I "woke up" as something jumped on my feet and crawled on my body towards my head.  When it got to my head, I began to "Grrrgrrgrr" as the thing was doing something on my forehead.  After a few seconds, I just decided to go somewhere else so I poped out of my body and "traveled" for a few seconds and then really woke up.

The thing also applied some kind of pressure on my forehead.  I had several encounters of the same type, except for the forehead "attack", but I never see anything; I only feel them.
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: shaman on October 09, 2003, 09:54:30
It sounds like some little nightmares, in that sens that I would rather claim that your physical body is the source of all that rather than seing something external in the astral trying to really attack or invade you. Nightmares with animals are most of the time messages from you subconscious that your body does not feel well for some reason or another. I had nightmares with animals running after me, such as gorillas, bulls, .. I have heard of nithtmares/dreams with snakes, dogs,... Usually it is realted to the digestif system, and you do not need to have eaten before that. Digestif problem can appear a whole day after you ate the junk or whatever causes problems. Nightmares come not only because of digestion, they can come because of feaver, or other physical conditions. Surely mental conditions where someone is afraid of something in her/his life without even noticing it, will induce such nightmares too. Dreams of earthquakes or natural disasters often means that someone is afraid (without knowing it) of the future of her/his own life (such as for example moving to a new place, new job, new friend, etc...).

Anyhow, if you think it could still be in the astral some spirit of some kind, you must know that NONE, that is none except YOU, can enter your body! You can light a candle while making a prayer/wish that this spirit goes away. It often works to light a candle and pray God and ask explicitly that the spirit goes away and leaves you alone. Then let the candle burn down all by itself.

Oh Risu no Kairu, quel gateau mangeais tu lorsque les ninjas t'ont attaque?
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Blue Giant on October 09, 2003, 10:05:57
Hello,
Thanks for your replies, however, I feel that they are not nightmares. They have a different feel to them. When it happens, I never get 'scared' in the dream or out. During the dream when these things enter me it happens all too fast for a 'nightmarish' feeling to arise. Then before you know it, I'm lying there observing something that is definitely invading my personal space. During this I try to be passive and observe, but the feeling of it coming in makes me only want to cut it off.
Anyhow, thanks for your input Risu no Kairu, Nagual, and Shaman

Love and light,
Rusty
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Hephaestus on October 09, 2003, 11:38:52
Tell the big cloud of anus gas to back off before it rattles your cage.
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Blue Giant on October 09, 2003, 16:57:50
Hey guys,
(Tee hee)- Hephaestus! Hey guys, should I just let this feeling enter my body. Is it me beginning to prep towards an O.B.E and possibly my mind or "eyes" are just playing tricks. I'll try it next time. Let it flow through me...hopefully...
Rusty
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Murt on October 09, 2003, 17:10:09
Rusty,
Try the LBRP, check the post, I put it fifth post down here... http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7992  
I find this works, you may have to do it several times, and you may find the thing you mentioned, goes mental !, that's because this will work. It will try to fight, but you must not let it win, remember that it is working.
I have also asked the Sacred Heart for help, in the past, and he always helps. I do this as a last resort, if it gets heavy.
I've had  similar experiences.
BTW I don't want to walk on anyones toes, so Mohammed (PBUH), Budda, Whoever, ask any of them.. There's plenty of help out there!, but one must ask.
Good Luck.
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Tisha on October 10, 2003, 17:22:36
Definitely check out Psychic Self Defense and stay far, far away from those negative situations you mentioned.  

Working up wards and shields takes time, effort, and practice.  If you are feeling too overwhelmed or depleted to take the time to do this, by all means call on the Masters.  Jesus usually comes right quick when called upon!  So do a variety of angelic beings.

You might also want to post your question on the Psychic Self Defense forum.  If you like, I can relocate this post to that Forum, all you have to do is ask.

Peace,
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: seth817 on October 11, 2003, 11:28:03
I think it would be a bad idea for you to just let it go into you. I have never read anything about a dark cloud spirit trying to enter your body as being part of preping to have an O.B.E. I wouldn't trust it. O, Im just curious what kind of drugs did you use?
Title: I need your help-all of u-negativity in the astral
Post by: Blue Giant on October 09, 2003, 01:48:13
Sorry, as my subject exlplains some huge distress signal (teehee). I know this is the OBE & Astral Projection Forum, however, I feel that this experience of mine is somewhat linked to Astral Projection. Having said that I NEED your guys input on what the hell is going on with me (pardon the language). Please be patient and hear me out. I've been having these "types" of experiences for a couple years now and tonight was the most recent one. I had prepared an evening of pure tranquility. Lit some candles, drank white tea and listened to Brian Eno. I was chilled alright. When I fell asleep I was immediately dreaming about being outside on some sort of farm land. I then remember watching a dog running up to where the property was fenced off from the long grass fields. As the dog approached the fence, it was though it sensed another presence. It stopped as if to sniff what was on the other side and immediately an invisible force made its way into the dogs body and the dog distorted to a very large size. It was very evident that this force was invading the dog. As this thing got into the dog I was feeling a presence by the head of my physical body. It was though I was half dreaming and half awake. Then this force made its way into my mouth and into me. It exited and made another attempt to make its way back in. During its second attempt it was as though I was seeing this presence through my third eye, for I was lying there staring off into space and in a "trance". I was also not fully awake, for I FELT IF I WERE TO LET MYSELF GO I WOULD FALL RIGHT BACK INTO THE DREAM CONSCIOUSLY  (some transitional state).What I was staring at ( or in the minds eye) was a thick black cloud. It was a DEFINITE SHADOW with it's own DEFINITE shape. It tried to make its way back thorugh my head but I somehow brought myself more awake to close my receptivity off. This presence had a volume to it. It was as though it was denser atmosphere around my forehead or third eye region. When it forced its way into me I felt very vibrated in the "wrong" way. When it hovered before my face it was though it were an opposite magnet and as it got closer I somehow reppelled against it. When it moved right into my third eye vision I felt tremendous hard vibrations like someone was shaking the space in my mind. Very disruptive. After its second attempt I forced myself to awake fully where I cut it "off" from me. When it entered my body the first time it hit my stomach. After I awoke fully my stomach was rumbling like something was in there (and not fried chicken or pizza). I had eaten 6 hours earlier. I have had this happen to me on several occasions and usually when I'm dreaming I interact with my physical self and notice that something is going wrong where I'm laying asleep. Another time, I was lying in my bed (dreaming) of the exact same bed (taking place in my room) and there was this big dog that ran through my door and stepped up onto the bed. He looked like he had a mission, coming straight towards me iwth a malicious intent TO INVADE. As it stepped with its two front paws onto the bed it then dipped it's head into my stomach where I awoke to feel the presence quickly exit my body. I felt the same shadowy dense cloud around my body and felt it penetrate me. Even though I somewhat awake and try to resolve whats happening slowly, it will always make a second attempt if I let myself go back to sleep. It is though when I'm sleeping it wants something. I heard spirits use bodies as a host to interact with our environment in this dimension. They need our body of flesh to interact with it " I guess to get the full 5 sense effect". Definitely weird. Do I attract such spirits? I sure as hell don't want to. I also talked with a women when I went for a gem therapy course in Oregon. She told me that one of my chakras ( I think either my chest or stomach) had a particular opening (from drugs) to some dimension where these spirits could pass thorugh me at their will and unfortunately not very "good one's". What do I do. I've tried mentally talking to it or them and I get no response, except that they want in. Why me? My girlfriend sleeps right beside me but she's just passed out to whats going on. I turn around and say " Hey you feel that?'' and all I get are zzzzzzzz. Teehee. Man I'm excited. Teehee. Please hit me up. Ask me questions. I think in the past, I took things for granted and this may have been the result for such actions. Lets just say, I innocently got into a wrong crowd. I hung with people who had done a wack full of drugs and were into very dark pleasures by using such drugs for certain purposes.

Love and light,

Rusty

Oh and p.s. I don't have a phobia of dogs.

"During your waking hour
the broken seal of time
watch your conscious mind
slip into something benign" - Rusty