I think i was in the vibrations level before some minutes...plz reply me!!!

Stevie. · January 05, 2009, 23:26:39

Finnaly i tried it..!!Before some minutes...I layed down to my bed to relax...after 20 mins i put all my fears out of my mind...!i started to say in my mind(I am stevie,i will make OBE and i am scared of nothing)!Finally my heart started to 'run' and i i saw a big white light over me...(btw i was laying down iwth my chest in the bed)and after some seconds i was seeing diff colours and then a big white door and a tall man towards the door!i alsw saw some boys like playmobils laying down(they were white)!My body was shaking and i was thinking of Catapelt or The rope exit technique but nothing happened...to tell you the truth i was a little scared....it was my 1st exp and now i cant sleep dunno why........what is it guyz?looking forward seeeing ur reply:)Thanx ,Stevie...

bondgirl3007 · January 05, 2009, 23:44:26

I think you're trying too hard. You cannot force it to happen. Also, if you have any fear at all you will not be able to separate. Fear is the biggest obstacle you will have to overcome. If you run into anything that scares you when you're out, just remember that you can instantly return to your body just by thinking about your physical body so there is nothing to be scared of!

Another tip: If you saturate your subconscious with reading and researching OBE's, for some reason you will attract these things to you. For inducing OBE's, the best tip I can give you is download the Tibetan Meditation Chakra CD to your ipod and listen to it. Here is the link where you can get it off of amazon.com

Here is the link
http://www.amazon.com/Tibetan-Chakra-Meditations-Christa-Michell/dp/B00003Q5AL

Stevie. · January 05, 2009, 23:45:59

wasnt it the vibrations lvls?i cant understand what u mean by attracting them to me...and what will these tracks help me to by listening?

bondgirl3007 · January 06, 2009, 00:13:43

Well, we our spirit/soul/astral body is very intricate and complicated just the same as our physical bodies. It has it's own network of energy centers. Your energy body (or whatever you want to call it- your soul/astral body/etheric body) is made up of energy centers which are called "chakras" . Go to this website and research it. http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html

Basically, in order to leave your body, you must raise the vibration of your chakras. I don't know how far you've gotten yet, but you may have experienced some sort of "buzzing" or "vibrating" sensation. What this is, is your energy centers, or chakras speeding up at a higher vibration.

What the Tibetan Chakra Meditation CD does, is it has different tracks which resognate at certain frequencies which open up these energy centers, allowing them to vibrate at a higher rate. It is important to listen to the CD with headphones on, because different frequencies are put into your ears separately. (Which is another whole thing I would need to explain to you- just do some research on hemisync or binaural beats)

If you have blockages in your chakras- basically negative energies- this CD will help cleanse them. IF you don't experience an OBE every time, you will at least feel great afterwards! For me, the CD works about 75% of the time. Listen to it when you take a nap, and then as you're waking up you will be in the trance necessary for exiting your body.

I would also advise you to read Robert Monroe's books, beginning with his first book Journeys out of the Body.

I don't have MSN, but I will answer any more questions you have. Where are you from by the way?

-Lindsay

2432615184 · January 06, 2009, 00:16:02

I have a question, when I leave my body do my eyes open automatically when i exit the body or do i just open them by will once I feel free

Stevie. · January 06, 2009, 00:18:14

you dont open your eyes...you see with ur mind...your eyes are closed...

Stevie. · January 06, 2009, 00:19:43

and btw bond girl i am from greece and i am 15 years old...what about you?And what do you think was that it happened to me?

Stevie. · January 06, 2009, 00:34:51

and something more...coz i cant download the cd coz idont have a credit card...can i try other relaxing music tracks???there are a lot of in youtube...

2432615184 · January 06, 2009, 00:47:31

No its not closed. Only when your in your physical body, once you leave im sure you can open them. How else can you explore? its not all your minds eye

bondgirl3007 · January 06, 2009, 00:55:37

You don't open your physical eyes. This will just bring you back into your physical body. When you leave your body, you no longer use the 5 senses that you use with your physical body because you are no longer IN your physical body. All rules of this physical world go out the window. It takes a while to develop your sight the first few times that you leave your body. For me, everything was really dark, and my "vision" just would come in flashes. It gets better though, the more you practice.

I don't know any other things to listen to besides the CD I told you about. Maybe borrow someone's card so you can order it, because you really have to listen to the CD with headphones for it to work.

Steve, I really don't know what those beings were that you saw. They could have been your spirit guides there to help you. Just trust your instincts and intuition. If you feel threatened, then just ignore them. You can tell when an entity you run into is evil or good. That's the best advice I can give is just go with your gut instincts, and also pray for God's protection before you leave your physical body.

2432615184 · January 06, 2009, 12:51:31

But you do see in the astral plane as if you had eyes right? Like a 1st person view of things?

Stevie. · January 06, 2009, 17:33:19

dont know yet man...i think its 1st person:P

Panthau · January 07, 2009, 07:08:35

Hi there,

Thx for the tip with the tibetan meditation cd, i got it now and i wonder which tracks should be used,
the "singing bowl" or the "normal" ones? Or all together at once?

Greetings
Pan
Austria/Vienna

woop · January 07, 2009, 08:33:42

Quote from: Panthau on January 07, 2009, 07:08:35
Hi there,

Thx for the tip with the tibetan meditation cd, i got it now and i wonder which tracks should be used,
the "singing bowl" or the "normal" ones? Or all together at once?

Greetings
Pan
Austria/Vienna

yea i want to ask it too and if you dont have card or money(like me

) just google it for free download i have find that i hope you find it too good luck

Stevie. · January 07, 2009, 09:42:30

could you give us the link for the download here woop?we would really appreciate it....

dingo · January 07, 2009, 09:55:43

Stevie, those things you saw were Hypnagogic hallucinations, which means you were very close to the onset of sleep / dreaming, which is a very good state to be in. You are very close. I think the shaking body thing you described might be what people here call the vibrations. When all this is happening you're likely getting excited and that would be ruining the state. Trying to use the rope technique when you're not completely calm isn't going to help. I'd just try again, but keep calm. You're doing fine without CDs and stuff.

As for fear, rather than giving up on it and going back to your body when you encounter it like bondgirl suggests, I'd just try to overcome the fear - just ignore whatever is causing it. It can't hurt you anyway.

2432615184: Your vision is like dream vision; it comes naturally, you don't have to open eyelids or anything. As for whether it's first or third person, that really depends. You see your physical body from an external perspective (third person?) but you see everything from the perspective of an imaginary / ethereal body (first person).

woop · January 07, 2009, 11:04:34

Who want to download tibetian chackra meditation just click this link http://buddhisttorrents.blogspot.com/2008/09/tibetan-chakra-meditations-ben-scott.html i hope you work this well

Stevie. · January 07, 2009, 11:15:39

Nice woop thank you for the links...i just started downloading em!

Thanx dingo for ur reply and ur suggestions...i know that i have to try withour fear and stress:Pi am sure the next time i will be better:)

Panthau · January 07, 2009, 13:08:36

I got only two times the vibrations (im trying since a month or so), first one was when i awaked in the night...my body was shaked by
energy waves or whatever you may call it, and i heard some really loud explosions in my head. I wasnt frightened at all, but i was
totaly excited and then it stopped. Same (but not that intensive) happend when i meditated, my head began to vibrate...again i was so
excited that my heart seemed to explode.

Well, im only at the beginning of this journey...hopefully this chakra cd helps

Im gonna try it tonight, will try all of the sounds while im getting asleep.

Pan

dingo · January 07, 2009, 13:13:10

Quote from: Stevie. on January 07, 2009, 11:15:39
Thanx dingo for ur reply and ur suggestions...i know that i have to try withour fear and stress:Pi am sure the next time i will be better:)

No problem. You'll do fine.

Panthau: you might find this interesting (found it on /x/ last night): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome
I've had it before too.

Panthau · January 07, 2009, 13:59:57

Thx 4 the link.

That article is interesting, though astral traveling isnt mentioned.

I saw that light too, but with closed eyes, after i was fully awake and turned around.
It was like a lamp inside my head hehe

Pan

2432615184 · January 07, 2009, 15:50:33

I can reach the vibrational state with ease and without any sort of music. My problem is exiting the body, sometimes I feel my hands float but when I open my eyes suddenly my physical hands are up in the air...Also should I try to imagine myself in another part of the room during the vibrational state and I will "pop up" in that location? Or if I try to "roll out" how come my physical body moves? Do I actually move my astral body or do I imagine rolling out in my mind?

CFTraveler · January 07, 2009, 17:05:29

There they go pathologizing something that happens to anyone who meditates long enough, right along anything else that has to do with the liminal state. (Trance).
There was a poster on this site who proposed some sort of ionic or photonic discharge happening in the brain or optic nerve (or both) at that time that explained it rather well, and also explained why sometimes this causes headaches. It may have something to do with the pineal gland, that is connected to the optic nerve. Hindu mystics (and possibly Buddhists too, not sure about that, I'm sure that there are Buddhists here that can educate me on this) call it the 'light in the head phenomenon' and associate it with meditation. Maybe because they have more experience with meditation, I'm sure.

News:

I think i was in the vibrations level before some minutes...plz reply me!!!

CFTraveler