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Title: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: darksidessj25 on March 06, 2013, 00:14:49
Well, a while ago I got fed up with working in the yard for my dad. I went to meditate, and then went to bed. I then found my self out of body, and remembered that I didn't want to work know more for my parents. I hated it. I then shouted, with the greatest intent. SHOW ME THE LOTTERY NUMBERS! After that I entered a warm whole. At the end of it was a very bright orange light. Right when I seen the light, I got scared. I was so close, but I don't think you should use AP to win the lottery.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: roman67 on March 06, 2013, 00:50:10
Ya, I think you are right AP will not help you to win the lottery.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: M4RT1N on March 06, 2013, 03:06:25
Quote from: roman67 on March 06, 2013, 00:50:10
Ya, I think you are right AP will not help you to win the lottery.

But what about the "akashic records" ?
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 06, 2013, 04:55:59
We can use all kinds of knowledge gained from the NPR to make our physical lives better. So it may be possible but consider the possibility that coming in to a ton of easy cash may just well be the opposite of making your life better. It has happened to more than one individual.

Money is important to this life but I think it is one of the things that keeps some poor spirits grounded and unable to move on.

I have a great work ethic but I hate working for other people. I currently work for myself and get to work my own hours but it is a struggle at times in this economy. I can save money like a hoarder and then spend it like a drunken sailor in a new port. Easy come, easy go.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Anonymouse on March 06, 2013, 05:43:41
Why not win the lottery? Well, there are two types of work: most common one is to work only for the money. That doesn't help you evolving/developing your skills spiritual or not). Gaininh money it's not equal to growth.

Working for the things you care, the aspects of your life you want to improve. Your surroundings. The aspects you want to explore/expieriment. That's whst make you grow; with plenty of money you can dedicate your precious time to what you think you must do.

A human being needs to be part of something. We have the need to put our creativity to good use.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Little Bibble on March 06, 2013, 05:44:45
If you're serious about manifestation look into Joe Gallenberger. He is specialist. If you live near Vegas he does weekend manifestation courses where you get direct and verifiable results to your psychokinesis (PK) skills in the casinos. He has also just written a book called Inner Vegas which documents 20 years doing the course and some of the incredible against the odds winning that was achieved.

It seems you've got to do a lot more than just set your intent. For PK to be high it requires a number of things. Things like doing it from a focus 12 state is best. Lots of energy raising. Creating protective energy bubbles to protect you from exterior negative influences, a sense of love and just doing it for the fun of it (to have a little play).

From what I can gather your mindset is key. Things like greed and fear are no no's. You shouldn't be going into it with the intent to expressly win money. That should be just a nice outcome of the greater experiment which is  to work on the PK skills. Apparently we all have a mindset when it comes to gambling of bid small to win bid. Betting on the lottery is a prime example. It's a negative mindset because what you are really saying is if I lose I've only lost a little. But that thought would probably have already lost you the chance to win anyway.

I would probably try for something smaller first where you can see your manifestation skills get a real time result (like slot machines). You go in to win (but not necessarily with money as your target). If you get good at it the money will accumulate on its own. Besides which if you get good at manifesting you don't need to manifest money you cut out the middle man and manifest what you actually want.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: ChopstickFox on March 06, 2013, 06:14:30
I used to stress about money... Sometimes I catch myself. It can be hard not to as a college graduate with a excrement job and student loans which payments rival your paychecks. I'm fortunate that I'm not very needy and I've never reached the point of struggling to feed myself.

Even if the option was there, it would feel wrong of me to do something like look up lottery numbers. That's a personal thing, though. I would feel like I was abusing the gifts given to me.

Morality aside, once I stopped stressing so much, life has been well... for one thing a lot less stressful. Without that burden, I've found that riches have found me. Not only monetarily either. I hope things get better for ya!
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 06, 2013, 06:31:37
The saying " where a man's heart is, there lies his treasure" is true.

All the recent gun debate in America has really shown what we value more. There is talk about putting armed guards in all the schools but then there is outage over who will pay for it. It just seems ironic that people will spare no expense to protect there personal property but want to argue over money to protect children. I'm not saying that I am for or against it but I'm only speaking of what it implies.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Volgerle on March 06, 2013, 09:52:22
As one who gathers bits of evidence reports I have two in my 'store' that actually attest to the possibilty to get reliable future lottery data. Here's the quote with links:

http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/dailylottery.html

"I know time can be transcended because I have done so on many occasions. But where is the proof? I wanted to prove, if not just to myself, that astral projection was authentic. In order to do this, I decided that winning some form of a lottery, which would be undeniable proof to me, would be in order. My projections basically happen on the weekends when I can sleep in and induce the groggy state. From this state, my attachment to my body is weakened and I can bring on the vibrations more easily when focusing on the third eye. It was snowing and I decided not to go to work. I decided that day that I would try and win the lottery instead (sounds crazy, I know!) I induced the vibrations somewhat easily and left my body. I then asked to go to the future and "see" the lottery numbers. I started looking for news papers so I could read them as this sounded like the intelligent thing to do. I mean, where else would I find them? I finally found a newspaper and was bending down to look at the numbers for the six million dollar lottery when I was abruptly brought back to my body by an interruption. This did not stop me. Because my body's attachment was very lose that morning, I decided to keep trying. I was brought back by various noises and disturbances until my fifth departure. At this point, I was pretty well fed up with the obstacles and didn't even bother for a newspaper. I simply WILLED myself to see the numbers (as I tell people, will power is of paramount importance). I demanded that I see the numbers! Up popped three very clear balls and I thanked my higher self and forced myself awake before I forgot them. Of course, I played them and won. They were the correct numbers, in the correct order on the correct day. This has been pretty much all the proof I have needed that time can be transcended."

http://www.skeptiko.com/150-dream-interpretation-a-spiritual-journey-says-lucid-dream-expert-robert-waggoner/

"One time a good friend of mine asked me if I'd ever sought out the lottery numbers while lucid dreaming. That had never occurred to me and I asked him if he had. He said, "Oh yeah," and he told me what happened. He said he became consciously aware and that he asked for the numbers of the MegaLotto or whatever it was called in his state, to appear when he opened up something. So he opened up a book or something, and he saw six sets of two numbers.
And during the lucid dream he was really excited and he started to memorize them as quickly as he could. So there's the first number, 26 and the next number is 3 and the next number is 17. And it goes on and on. He said he was really working hard to memorize the set of six two-digit numbers.
When he woke up from the lucid dream he immediately reached for his dream journal and began writing them down as quickly as possible. He says he got the first three exactly right but from then on his memory failed him. He just couldn't recall the exact order. So a week later when the MegaLotto happened, he said he got the first three exactly right but then the other ones, the order had been goofed up. He'd transposed the numbers as anyone might."
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Bedeekin on March 06, 2013, 10:19:47
There is a paradox involved with foreseeing winning the lottery.... or rather choosing numbers that will win the lottery. I have given this a fair bit of time and thought due to a girlfriend of 23 years who has always said "If you can have precognitions and go into out of body, why can't you help us win the lottery?"

There can be several options involved in such a venture... all of them are almost impossible.

1) Choosing the right numbers.

Based upon my own experience with precognition, which comes in the form of seeing the future event through the collective experiences of those involved in flashes of edited scenes, one would have to have already won the lottery... or rather it was already part of the potential future possibility thread. So the first problem leis in the likely possibility that you would be seeing the winning numbers because you won... by seeing the numbers because you won... creating a very unrealistic time loop paradox.

Say this was possible. You would have to be extremely focused and at a level of practice so high and of such low entropy consciousness (enlightenment) that the need or want to win the lottery for personal gain would be so reduced as to be non-existent. So therefor the intent to do so would be nil and void.

3) the Akashic Records

First I think that peoples interpretation of the records is a little warped. For a start there isn't some astral library containing books with writing on... neither a filing system containing everything that was and everything that is going to be. As attractive as this sounds it completely contradicts the fundamental process and point of 'free will' choice. To have a Akashic record of everything that has and will be means that reality is determined.

There is a database... but it is not only a record of what has already been... but also a record of what could have been assessed using all possible outcomes. The same goes for the future database... but then... it gets muddier as the further out one goes from the current NOW. The further forward in time the less accurate the possible outcome is. Imagine a branching tree of possible outcomes with choices made by everyone... networking out wards from this point in time. Now also imagine that there are more trees running alongside this tree containing the possible outcomes of a few moments ago... and before that and before that... and before that...etc.

Now.. go forward in time and try to find the correct possible outcome for next weeks lottery numbers... and manage to sort out the true number sequence from all the possible sequences that could happen. It's almost the same as randomly guessing the numbers and hoping for the best.

3) Using PKE

This is maybe the best course of action. But you still need to be extremely proficient at remotely influencing physical matter. When do you do it? When the balls are bouncing around in the drum? or does the influencing begin when the machine is chosen? The variables are outstanding.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: desert-rat on March 06, 2013, 10:24:39
I know Edgar Cayse had problems when people would ask him stock tips while he was in his trance.  I visualized 3 dimonds and           got 2 of the three dimond symbols on a slot mchine for around $ 250, at vee quiva     http://500nations.com/casinos/azGilaRiverCasinoVeeQuiva.asp         I think its sub conscious stuff preventing winning at the lotto or a casino.   desert rat
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Szaxx on March 06, 2013, 13:58:01
It would need some careful thought and Im sure its possible.
At present I have been offered £2750 in 5 blocks free to gamble. I keep the winnings.
In my life this isn't an interest and the dosh stays put.
Im sensible, think about it.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Bedeekin on March 06, 2013, 14:52:29
I'm also sure it's possible... but to devote your time to it is just wasteful. Not much quality of conscious awareness or evolution.

It's like Ninjutsu... if anyone wanted to learn it to break into houses and put people down with a single touch.. by the time they became proficient enough to do it... they would lose the want or need to.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 06, 2013, 14:57:52
Quote from: Bedeekin on March 06, 2013, 14:52:29
I'm also sure it's possible... but to devote your time to it is just wasteful. Not much quality of conscious awareness or evolution.

It's like Ninjutsu... if anyone wanted to learn it to break into houses and put people down with a single touch.. by the time they became proficient enough to do it... they would lose the want or need to.

I imagine it could be a lot of work. Then there is the issue of which lottery is being played. There's like fifteen drawings a week in my state alone. Ranging from several thousand nightly to megaplyer bonanza x4 super pick multi state drawing.  It's ridiculous crazy when you start to consider all the other states and countries.

But i guess intent and attention to detail can narrow it down.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Bedeekin on March 06, 2013, 15:00:32
Yes.

The effort put into trying would be best spent coming up with a scheme to make the money long term... and would be much more satisfying... and is.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 06, 2013, 15:14:20
Quote from: Bedeekin on March 06, 2013, 15:00:32
Yes.

The effort put into trying would be best spent coming up with a scheme to make the money long term... and would be much more satisfying... and is.

That's what my day dreams are for. I agree because many times my next intent is overridden by the elation of the moment and I'm talking about doing simple tasks in the NPR, much less all this hard work.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Lionheart on March 06, 2013, 16:33:40
 I find it hard to read just about anything in the NPR.

The real/true words or numbers appear to me in a quick flash. Then I try to focus on them and all of a sudden the Google effect starts to occur. I call the Google effect, when I am typing a word into a search engine online and after i have typed only a few letters of the word, the computer is trying to help me with the rest.

I feel our minds react the same way, well at least mine does, lol.

I guess this is just another thing I need to learn to "passively observe"!  :wink:

But yes, I agree with Bedeekin on all of his points. There is a "Timeline" and that timeline can be altered by any major events. He is also spot on about the further you traverse into the future, the harder it is to perdict, this is simply because every major scenario or decision immediately changes your "timeline" and the direction your path is leading.

This practice of Phasing is no different. Say you were a successful VP in a major company, Your future was in that company was basically a shoe in. Then all of a sudden you have a NDE which brings you to the realization that all those goals are meaningless to you now. Your reality as you knew it was just turned upside down. You hit a fork in the road and took a different path, but your current timeline was created based on you staying on the same road you had been on for most of your life.

Your timeline would show that you were on a course to being this successful businessman and maybe owning a company of your own, but now it has changed. Your 5 year or 10 year plan has been altered.

Supposedly there is a system created by the Powers that be , named "the Looking Glass" that works the same way.

An example of this was seen by our election here. If Obama was going to still be president, then this would happen. If Romney got into office then that would happen. A different path for the country was to be set by whoever was the leader and is always changing by the decisions they make. Simply because of the fact that their decisions have a enormous effect on the lives of so many others.

Now you have to create a new timeline based on what your new reality is.

But in the end, once you begin down the road of Consciously projecting you do find that a lot of the things that you previously thought were necessary for your happiness in this reality, really aren't.

You have found happiness by just finding and being able to understand yourself!  :-)
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: desert-rat on March 06, 2013, 17:21:45
Some people have used remote viewing for lotto numbers .  Once when the pot was large on power ball I used a pendulem to get about 25 numbers and bet them on 5 tickets , I matched 4 or 5 numbers on 1 ticket and got $100 .  I know there is a site where you can bet on losing horses , but its not open to any one in the USA .  I think this is it .  http://www.betfair.com/en/    I may go back to Vee Quiva with a few bucks just for fun .  Only gamble what you can afford to loose , no system is fool proof .  desert rat 
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Bedeekin on March 06, 2013, 17:41:23
Gambling is the opposite... it's fool inclusive.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: APtoVegas on March 06, 2013, 19:09:50
I recently saw a youtube video with Tom Campbell talking about probable futures and probability distributions (albeit in physics). Sorry I can't find it quickly, but I'll post later if I do. As a person who enjoys gambling and understands odds and theoretical return, I found it fascinating.

If my understanding of Tom's work is even somewhat accurate (dozens of videos and just finished Vol 1 of My Big TOE):

1. Tom said it is possible to influence the probability of something happening, with probability being the crux of that statement. So, increasing the probability of, say, having the lotto numbers you picked come up. Well, the odds of picking 6 out of 80 numbers is around 1 in 300,500,200. So, if you were to influence that to even 1 out of 100,000,000...much of an improvement? Not really. It seems kinda like trying to change the probability of you hitting the ground when jumping off a building. If you stopped your rate of acceleration from 9.8 m/s^2 to 9.0 m/s^2...it's still gonna end badly for ya.

2. Also consider there are quite a few other players out there trying to influence away. Assuming these millions of people have any effect, it probably makes any one person's effect pretty much a wash.

3. Now, with trying to predict which numbers will come up. If we think of different probable futures and assuming the game isn't rigged, every number has an equal probability of coming up. So any combination of six numbers is equally probable in any future. So you may be able to see a probable future where a certain set of numbers comes up, but is that the probable future that actually transpires? Kinda sucks to pick the right lotto numbers for the wrong probable future.

There's also the argument of whether your winning is a benefit to your purpose and learning here. It goes on and on.

Just keep in mind that casinos have been around for quite some time and they're not built on winners. So if even a small number of us could push those probabilities in our favor...casinos and lotteries wouldn't be in any of our probable futures.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 06, 2013, 19:18:59
QuoteJust keep in mind that casinos have been around for quite some time and they're not built on winners. So if even a small number of us could push those probabilities in our favor...casinos and lotteries wouldn't be in any of our probable futures.

That's the biggest red flag. If this was truuuuuly possible, it would be probable based on the amount of players and casinos/gambling games that have existed. Never heard of one going under from too many payouts.

Plus the casinos would employ their own seers and use their visions to cancel our bets. That seems silly but not really considering their counter measures.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Lionheart on March 06, 2013, 20:33:08
 I was doing a show years ago at the NFR (National Finals Rodeo) in Vegas. I was staying at the Excalibur Hotel there.

The show went on for a whole week, well, at least the convention part that I was in.

I played the same "5 Times" slot machine everyday, when I got a chance to and I never went to another Casino there to gamble.

My winnings on that exact same machine were $32,000 at the end of my visit. They even gave me something called a Comp Card so they could keep track of it. That Comp Card paid for all of my meals, hotel stay, plus they gave me a bonus sum that was based on my winnings. Not bad for only starting with a Dollar coin.  :-D

It was my first time and last time in Vegas. The hotel still sends me free room vouchers even today, lol.

I think they want their money back!  :wink:
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 06, 2013, 21:23:53
Quote from: Lionheart on March 06, 2013, 20:33:08
I was doing a show years ago at the NFR (National Finals Rodeo) in Vegas. I was staying at the Excalibur Hotel there.

The show went on for a whole week, well, at least the convention part that I was in.

I played the same "5 Times" slot machine everyday, when I got a chance to and I never went to another Casino there to gamble.

My winnings on that exact same machine were $32,000 at the end of my visit. They even gave me something called a Comp Card so they could keep track of it. That Comp Card paid for all of my meals, hotel stay, plus they gave me a bonus sum that was based on my winnings. Not bad for only starting with a Dollar coin.  :-D

It was my first time and last time in Vegas. The hotel still sends my free rooms even today, lol.

I think they want their money back!  :wink:

Make no mistake, they want their money back and will comp you a full weekend free at their hotel to get it.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: ChopstickFox on March 06, 2013, 23:28:59
Wow, haha! That's pretty great!

I dunno, I find the whole idea of gambling bleh. Last year my friends and I went on a cruise and some of them were excited to be able to gamble just for the sake of gambling. One guy put like... $50 down? Lost it in 2 seconds. My husband wanted me to just give it a shot so I put a few quarters in. Lost them in a few minutes. I just don't get it. @_@
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Stillwater on March 07, 2013, 03:32:35
This is just me thinking out loud, and I have no way to substantiate it.

But I suspect there may be a sort of "grace" lent by the universe to people with pure intentions- for instance, things that they wanted to do for good reasons are easier than they should probablistically be, almost as if the world was laying itself out for them to realize their goals.

Suppose a person wanted to devote themselves to serving others in the best way they could accomplish. I feel that such a person may find things like winning the lottery for instance may fall into line for them so they could use it to further their service. But then, I am sure there are lots of ways in which a person may be gifted various kinds of resources or commodities in order to put them to best use. Maybe I could tell myself I wanted to fight to end poverty and social domination across Africa, and I suppose winning the lottery will further this end. Maybe it ends up not that I win the lottery per se, but perhaps I end up with a powerful company I found which allows me a voice to serve this goal.

So maybe you won't win the lottery exactly, but then you want to win the lottery for a reason clearly, not just love of money. It could be that your will to accomplish that goal will be served in some other way that soon presents itself. Or maybe not!
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: ChopstickFox on March 07, 2013, 07:08:04
That would be very nice and optimistic. But such terrible things can happen to such amazing good people... :(

Pure intentions doesn't protect you from life, at least in some ways... @_@ I think you know what I'm getting at... And I know this physical life isn't everything... but... gah... I can't communicate correctly right now.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Stillwater on March 07, 2013, 07:42:54
Sure, if such a thing were true, it wouldn't be the only force at work- the world is a veritable jungle of forces and factors.

But I also think people seem to succede more often than they should sometimes, and that I have remained alive sometime more than chance should allow... "will" or some "Law of Attraction" concept may function beneath things, working within the probabilities, but bending them.

Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Szaxx on March 07, 2013, 07:56:34
It would be an interesting concept for those who help for the sake of improving others' lives for no personal gain.
Maybe it's that divine intervention we hear about.
Funny thing this morning, I've 'won' another £500 on a gambling site. They try but to no avail. Offer it as a charitable donation of my choice and then ....
Sigh, hopefully things will move away from monetary gain being almost forced on those that have no interest.
It would help a great deal in Africa without a doubt, pity it's a greed orientated business.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 07, 2013, 08:04:14
I actually enjoy gambling. I won't waste a penny that I don't have but if I do, that's another story. I usually play black jack since you can decrease the casino's advantage to less than 1% if you play by basic strategy and take advantage of the splits and double downs. This means that you usually just break even on short runs.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: catmeow on March 07, 2013, 17:40:02
Well I quite like the timeline argument against winning the lottery given by Bedeekin. Ie Winning the lottery would have to be part of our future timeline, to make it possible for us to create that very timeline.  But I don't think it holds water. There would only be a problem if seeing the lottery numbers resulted in a paradox. But there is no paradox. If we don't act on the information, there is no paradox. If we do act on the information, and win, we simply create a future which is entirely consistent with correctly seeing and predicting the lottery results. Hence no paradox here either. So I think Bedeekin's logic is wrong, but nevertheless highly enjoyable.

I did once request and see the future lottery numbers in a LD. All six numbers came up. three exactly as seen, and the other three reversed, ie 42 instead of 24. The only problem was that these six numbers came up in the Euro Lottery, and I bet on the UK Lottery! So make sure you specify exactly which lottery you mean, when you ask for the numbers!



Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: equin on March 07, 2013, 19:30:57
Quote from: catmeow on March 07, 2013, 17:40:02
I did once request and see the future lottery numbers in a LD. All six numbers came up. three exactly as seen, and the other three reversed, ie 42 instead of 24. The only problem was that these six numbers came up in the Euro Lottery, and I bet on the UK Lottery! So make sure you specify exactly which lottery you mean, when you ask for the numbers!

yeh sure.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 07, 2013, 19:42:47
Quote from: equin on March 07, 2013, 19:30:57
yeh sure.

Hey first of all I want to say welcome to the Pulse.

Secondly, why the negativity?
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: equin on March 07, 2013, 19:46:01
Quote from: its_all_bad on March 07, 2013, 19:42:47
Hey first of all I want to say welcome to the Pulse.

Secondly, why the negativity?

hello. Sorry I just have a hard time believing that.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 07, 2013, 20:01:53
Quote from: equin on March 07, 2013, 19:46:01
hello. Sorry I just have a hard time believing that.

I understand. But there are many posters here that wouldn't lie about their experiences. This is very important to many of us and wouldn't lie about our personal experiences because of the stigma that is already attached to all of this.

But hey, Even if you are a skeptic, we would very much welcome your thoughts so long as they are not disrespectful. Anyways, please feel free to tell us about why you feel this way. If you are interested in finding out about this for your self, we would be more glad to help you.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: equin on March 07, 2013, 20:09:56
Quote from: its_all_bad on March 07, 2013, 20:01:53
I understand. But there are many posters here that wouldn't lie about their experiences. This is very important to many of us and wouldn't lie about our personal experiences because of the stigma that is already attached to all of this.

But hey, Even if you are a skeptic, we would very much welcome your thoughts so long as they are not disrespectful. Anyways, please feel free to tell us about why you feel this way. If you are interested in finding out about this for your self, we would be more glad to help you.

ah I would not say I was a skeptic I know a couple of people who have been in the astral who I trust and I believe them. I think astral projection is a spiritual experience and not just all in the brain based on my own research. But however I don't believe any sort of future glimpses could be obtained whilst in the astral/rtz I just don't think its possible and can't ever be possible and those who I know who have done this agree it can't happen.

Thx for understanding also.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: catmeow on March 07, 2013, 20:17:14
Quote from: equin on March 07, 2013, 19:46:01
hello. Sorry I just have a hard time believing that.

Really? First time I've ever been called a liar. But makes no difference to me. It happened. I was disappointed that three numbers were reversed. The Euro lottery has seven numbers not six, so I only got 6 of them. I didn't even think it was a big deal because mathematically it isn't that unlikely, to get a few hits and a few reversed numbers. I expected to be criticised for that, rather than accused of lying. That's what you really should have critiqued.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Bedeekin on March 07, 2013, 20:18:27
Quote from: catmeow on March 07, 2013, 17:40:02
Well I quite like the timeline argument against winning the lottery given by Bedeekin. Ie Winning the lottery would have to be part of our future timeline, to make it possible for us to create that very timeline.  But I don't think it holds water. There would only be a problem if seeing the lottery numbers resulted in a paradox. But there is no paradox. If we don't act on the information, there is no paradox. If we do act on the information, and win, we simply create a future which is entirely consistent with correctly seeing and predicting the lottery results. Hence no paradox here either. So I think Bedeekin's logic is wrong, but nevertheless highly enjoyable.

haha I see what you mean. :-D

But then... isn't that just winning the lottery?

If you see yourself winning the lottery... all you do is wait for it to happen. You haven't actively helped yourself win it.. .you have just viewed a possible outcome.

The paradox would exist only by acting upon the information of using the numbers and winning because you acted upon the information of using the numbers.

Im about to have a paradox I think.

Quote from: its_all_bad on March 07, 2013, 20:01:53
I understand. But there are many posters here that wouldn't lie about their experiences. This is very important to many of us and wouldn't lie about our personal experiences because of the stigma that is already attached to all of this.

But hey, Even if you are a skeptic, we would very much welcome your thoughts so long as they are not disrespectful. Anyways, please feel free to tell us about why you feel this way. If you are interested in finding out about this for your self, we would be more glad to help you.

I can vouch for catmeow and the way his experience worked. The accuracy can be so close that non-specifics of intent can get in the way.

We relate to stuff like this on here equin... it's nothing unusual or paranormal  :-)

Quote from: equin on March 07, 2013, 20:09:56
ah I would not say I was a skeptic I know a couple of people who have been in the astral who I trust and I believe them. I think astral projection is a spiritual experience and not just all in the brain based on my own research. But however I don't believe any sort of future glimpses could be obtained whilst in the astral/rtz I just don't think its possible and can't ever be possible and those who I know who have done this agree it can't happen.

Thx for understanding also.

Ohhhh... I can assure you the 'time' aspect of nonphysical exploration is integral. Maybe your 'couple' of people just haven't experienced it yet. I know a couple of base jumpers who've never jumped off the grande canyon... it doesn't mean to say others haven't.   :wink:
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Astralzombie on March 07, 2013, 20:54:22
Yeah Equin, but after you have had a few of your own experiences, you'll see that prophetic "visions" are quite common only that many of us are quite helpless in trying to affect the outcome. Just always keep an open mind and you'll start to see that there is so much more than you ever imagined.

So please stick around.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: desert-rat on March 07, 2013, 21:23:01
Many years ago the guy that runs a new age book store in Phoenix told me that he used a pendulem for a guy to get the winning dogs for Phoenix gray hound park .  He told me the guy came back telling him   the numbers were for the track at Black cayon city ( open at that time , both closed now)   Either true , or he just did not  want to dowse for dog track numbers . desert rat 
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Xanth on March 07, 2013, 21:40:07
You can never use this ability to do something that is for the pure sake of your ego.

I've read of many tests people have done with this kind of thing... in all instances, they were able to see the winning numbers only when they had no intention of actually playing them.
All intentions to PLAY the numbers seen ended up in losing.

INTENTION...
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Lionheart on March 07, 2013, 21:48:51
Quote from: equin on March 07, 2013, 20:09:56
ah I would not say I was a skeptic I know a couple of people who have been in the astral who I trust and I believe them. I think astral projection is a spiritual experience and not just all in the brain based on my own research. But however I don't believe any sort of future glimpses could be obtained whilst in the astral/rtz I just don't think its possible and can't ever be possible and those who I know who have done this agree it can't happen.

Equin, every year my better half and myself open a X-mas Kiosk in our local mall.

Two years ago we had paid our rent for a store location, instead of a Kiosk. We are just a Mom and Pop company, so this is a big thing to us.

MJ, my better half, spent 2 full months preparing for this. She was sculpting and painting our Dragons, ordering our Wooden Carvings, etc.

I had a Phase session where I saw that we were in a Kiosk instead of a store and we were also selling 2 products that we have never even touched before.

I knew better, threw other proof I was shown, that this was going to happen. I told MJ about my vision, she did not want to hear anything of that talk.

I then went online and set up a pipeline to the two new products, one being Himalayan Salt Lamps, the other was Hand Blown Glass Jellyfish.

I talked MJ into bringing a small amount of each into our "store", as new products, since we have always sold only our Carvings and Dragons.

MJ called the mall two days before we were to begin our contracted time for the keys, so we could go set up the store.

We received a call back 5 minutes later from the mall office, they had made a horrible mistake. Our store was in Michigan, not Minnesota where we live. This was a drastic error.

But, all they could offer us was a Kiosk to fix the problem.

We are a Mom and Pop, very small company and normally this would be devastating to us. Devastating enough to cause Bankrupt and the loss of our company.

If I wouldn't have saw, what I had saw at the time, we would have been SOL (Sold Out of Luck).

I am very thankful and have definitely proven the "reality" of the NPR to myself.

But, I understand your doubt. This really is something you need to experience yourself.  
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: darksidessj25 on March 07, 2013, 23:17:26
Quote from: Lionheart on March 07, 2013, 21:48:51
Equin, every year my better half and myself open a X-mas Kiosk in our local mall.

Two years ago we had paid our rent for a store location, instead of a Kiosk. We are just a Mom and Pop company, so this is a big thing to us.

MJ, my better half, spent 2 full months preparing for this. She was sculpting and painting our Dragons, ordering our Wooden Carvings, etc.

I had a Phase session where I saw that we were in a Kiosk instead of a store and we were also selling 2 products that we have never even touched before.

I knew better, threw other proof I was shown, that this was going to happen. I told MJ about my vision, she did not want to hear anything of that talk.

I then went online and set up a pipeline to the two new products, one being Himalayan Salt Lamps, the other was Hand Blown Glass Jellyfish.

I talked MJ into bringing a small amount of each into our "store", as new products, since we have always sold only our Carvings and Dragons.

MJ called the mall two days before we were to begin our contracted time for the keys, so we could go set up the store.

We received a call back 5 minutes later from the mall office, they had made a horrible mistake. Our store was in Michigan, not Minnesota where we live. This was a drastic error.

But, all they could offer us was a Kiosk to fix the problem.

We are a Mom and Pop, very small company and normally this would be devastating to us. Devastating enough to cause Bankrupt and the loss of our company.

If I wouldn't have saw, what I had saw at the time, we would have been SOL (Sold Out of Luck).

I am very thankful and have definitely proven the "reality" of the NPR to myself.

But, I understand your doubt. This really is something you need to experience yourself.  
I get visions as well, but sometimes there completely random.  Like I walked in on my uncle watching some movie, and I never even seen this movie before. I told him what was going to happen, and it did lol.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Szaxx on March 08, 2013, 02:09:21
Hi Equin, welcome to the Pulse.
You really have to read some of the info on here.
Not believing is fine, have a read of ' Just a dream'.
It'll require you to find this thread on the Pulse. Then check the dates on the post, wait a week, then check the newspapers.
It's real.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Little Bibble on March 08, 2013, 07:11:17
I think the overarching problem with trying to win the lottery is that millions of other people are subconsciously trying to manifest winning it so the PK field is a mass of confusion and so invariably no one wins
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: equin on March 08, 2013, 09:22:28
Ok wouldn't it be easier if someone is really trying to become rich to forget the lottery and focus on a horse race or greyhound race. This would simply be a lot easier to memorize rather than 6 or 7 numbers sometimes backwards or what not. You would have to spend money on betting on the right horse coming in but the risk would be worth it. This would be a much better way of proof but of course people seem to try the lotto which seems more harder to do.

Thx for the all the welcomes also ty.
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Little Bibble on March 08, 2013, 10:52:12
Quote from: equin on March 08, 2013, 09:22:28
Ok wouldn't it be easier if someone is really trying to become rich to forget the lottery and focus on a horse race or greyhound race. This would simply be a lot easier to memorize rather than 6 or 7 numbers sometimes backwards or what not. You would have to spend money on betting on the right horse coming in but the risk would be worth it. This would be a much better way of proof but of course people seem to try the lotto which seems more harder to do.

Thx for the all the welcomes also ty.

I agree with you but I still think getting verification from within the astral is far harder than the method I suggested in my original post - PK. I've been doing my own experiments and have far very encouraging results at manipulating the outcome of dice.

Asking for the numbers in the astral is, for me, a pointless exercise. Obviously you've got the fairly large hurdle of perceiving a steady image that doesn't keep changing its numbers but even if you managed that who's to say it is correct. After all NPR is a very subjective environment that is coloured largely by beliefs which could affect what you are perceiving.

Whereas with PK you can get instant results from your experiments and, if successful,  this slowly breaks down any limiting beliefs hindering you
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: LeanLow on March 18, 2013, 07:09:48
Quote from: darksidessj25 on March 06, 2013, 00:14:49
Well, a while ago I got fed up with working in the yard for my dad. I went to meditate, and then went to bed. I then found my self out of body, and remembered that I didn't want to work know more for my parents. I hated it. I then shouted, with the greatest intent. SHOW ME THE LOTTERY NUMBERS! After that I entered a warm whole. At the end of it was a very bright orange light. Right when I seen the light, I got scared. I was so close, but I don't think you should use AP to win the lottery.

Are you joking ? Wouldn't be easier to look what will happen to a stock in the future , than sell or buy that stock according to that ?
Title: Re: I Tried Winning The Lottery
Post by: Chaki on March 18, 2013, 15:51:45
I was reading the Connecticut lottery site a few months ago and one of the winners said that she never played the lottery, but she had a vivid dream one night in which her deceased father was holding a sign that said "Winning Lottery Numbers" or something like that. She was able to remember the numbers, played them, and hit the lotto for a lot of money.

Grandpa, help me out man!!!