I only came across AP about a week ago . Im quite a spiritual guy and ive always been facinated with dreams , lucid dreams and such. I even keep a dream diary.
So having done some research on AP , id thought id try it out. However ive got some really burning questions to ask... and wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
Firstly , I share bed with a partner and theres a main road outside. I try to relax , keep my mind empty and I actually feel the vibrations at an early stage. But then my partner rolls and breaths heavily , and sometimes a truck roars past. I hear that and I feel ike its distracted me. The vibrations are still there tho.
I want to ask...even though I hear all these distractions and the odd elbow in the arm ,should I simply continue trying to get the vibrations or is it no use trying to get a OBE in these circumstances.
Secondly im a bit of an insomniac. Im always last to fall asleep , and my mind can run wild at night as i stay awake. Is it a disadvantage or advantage to be an imsoniac. Sometimes whilst lying for an hour trying to feel the vibrations (obviously by relaxing and letting them come to you , being passive etc ) , im thinking...well even if my body is suppose to go to sleep and the mind stay awake , neither would go to sleep even in normal circumstances after an hour.
By being an insomniac does this mean i might have to wait 2-3 hours!!
Thirdly , ive not got to a stage where theres large vibrations and large sounds , but is it a likelyhood for people to try to move their "astral" arm or roll out , and find that they just physically do it.
Perhaps it not too good to connect sleep with OBE attempts?
Some say u should do ur attempts at other times a day.
Some symptoms will go away overtime. But if it's noisy you
could use ear plugs if not too unpleasant.
Get a heavy book on mathematics, read it for 15 minutes
may help u fall asleep.
Quote from: P5ynergy on June 17, 2011, 07:03:34
I only came across AP about a week ago . Im quite a spiritual guy and ive always been facinated with dreams , lucid dreams and such. I even keep a dream diary.
So having done some research on AP , id thought id try it out. However ive got some really burning questions to ask... and wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
Firstly , I share bed with a partner and theres a main road outside. I try to relax , keep my mind empty and I actually feel the vibrations at an early stage. But then my partner rolls and breaths heavily , and sometimes a truck roars past. I hear that and I feel ike its distracted me. The vibrations are still there tho.
I want to ask...even though I hear all these distractions and the odd elbow in the arm ,should I simply continue trying to get the vibrations or is it no use trying to get a OBE in these circumstances.
Secondly im a bit of an insomniac. Im always last to fall asleep , and my mind can run wild at night as i stay awake. Is it a disadvantage or advantage to be an imsoniac. Sometimes whilst lying for an hour trying to feel the vibrations (obviously by relaxing and letting them come to you , being passive etc ) , im thinking...well even if my body is suppose to go to sleep and the mind stay awake , neither would go to sleep even in normal circumstances after an hour.
By being an insomniac does this mean i might have to wait 2-3 hours!!
Thirdly , ive not got to a stage where theres large vibrations and large sounds , but is it a likelyhood for people to try to move their "astral" arm or roll out , and find that they just physically do it.
I have/had this problem. I live alone so obviously peace n quiet is the best way to go but it cant always be that way. The nights when my girl stays over I have encountered this many Xs. Id be layn there and everything would be going great and right when I could feel the vibration for the exit Id take an arm to the abdomen and it would ruin the experience.
For me its inevitable that its gonna happen if shes in the bed with me. Ive told her to stay on her side of the bed over n over but it doesnt matter. Throughout the night she has to touch one of my body parts by just getting to close or rolling over n putting her arm on me. At first I would get aggravated and this is where the problem lies.
The best way in this case is to not get aggravated. Once you let yourself get slightly frusterated than its not gonna happen. You can overcome slightly being touched or another person tossn n turning as long as you dont get bothered by it. Obviously to much activity would ruin it but just a little is ok as long as you keep your cool and block it out. So yeah you can definitely achieve inducing one just keep relaxed and dont get aggravated.
I have a history with insomnia as well and astral projection is a big help for that. Almost every single night I go to sleep I induce an obe unless its one of those nights I drift off watchin the tube, which isnt often. Its definitely a plus cause Ive taught myself how to sleep where in the past, sleep was a choir.
You shouldnt have to wait 2-3 hours. For me my problem with insomnia was that Id be extremely tired but I just couldnt seem to sleep. My body would be at the point where I should be sleeping but I just couldnt seem to get it.
For the most part after 16 hours of being awake, your body is ready for sleep. So this is when I lay down and do my thing. If your having problems sleeping this can be a lifesaver. Develop a technique and use it every night for an obe. This is how I conquered insomnia.
Well for one i would only try the projection attempt when alone, just because with another sleeping with you is always going to doom the AP to fail on most cases. The noise of trucks driving by can be-solved maybe by utilizing a fan or some other sort of background noise, if that does not help than practice meditating until your mind is use to that particular sound of traffic. Ive found that sounds like traffic or wind ect are not as distracting as house noise such as people walking around and opening closing doors are. Im also a insomniac which i think makes astral projection more challenging because one has to fall asleep in a timely manner for success. The solution to this problem would be to practice your projection attempts in the morning a few hours before you normally wake up, or in the afternoon. At night when i attempt to Astral Project before i normally go to sleep never seems to have any positive results, usually i just lay there an eventually get tired/annoyed that im just keeping my self awake instead of getting the sleep that i need.
You should try to project in the morning. when shes sleeping and you wake up before her try it then. I usually find it easier to project in the morning because your body is already in a good state to project. I am also a little bit of an insomniac and find it easier in the morning.
Hi there P5synergy! Welcome to the Astral Pulse. :)
Quote from: P5ynergy on June 17, 2011, 07:03:34
I only came across AP about a week ago . Im quite a spiritual guy and ive always been facinated with dreams , lucid dreams and such. I even keep a dream diary.
So having done some research on AP , id thought id try it out. However ive got some really burning questions to ask... and wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
I'm a life-long lucid dreamer myself... I can personally attest that the line between "astral projection" and "lucid dream" are blurred to the point of confusion. If you've had lucid dreams, some of those lucid dreams could very well have been astral projections. My only test to discern the two is when I ask myself the following question: Did I have a "waking awareness" while the experience was happening.
A "waking awareness" is what I call the kind of awareness you have right now while fully awake. You know who you are (you), what you are (physical being), where you are (your physical body is actually in bed).
If you ask yourself that question (you can ask this after the fact too) and you answer "yes", then you had an astral projection.
QuoteFirstly , I share bed with a partner and theres a main road outside. I try to relax , keep my mind empty and I actually feel the vibrations at an early stage. But then my partner rolls and breaths heavily , and sometimes a truck roars past. I hear that and I feel ike its distracted me. The vibrations are still there tho.
I want to ask...even though I hear all these distractions and the odd elbow in the arm ,should I simply continue trying to get the vibrations or is it no use trying to get a OBE in these circumstances.
Distractions can be hard to get past, but you can actually train yourself to ignore them. If you meditate (and I HIGHLY suggest you do), try meditating in noisy areas. I meditate in a busy office... or outside on the sidewalk... just places where it's really distracting. The more you do it, the more it won't bug you. :)
QuoteSecondly im a bit of an insomniac. Im always last to fall asleep , and my mind can run wild at night as i stay awake. Is it a disadvantage or advantage to be an imsoniac. Sometimes whilst lying for an hour trying to feel the vibrations (obviously by relaxing and letting them come to you , being passive etc ) , im thinking...well even if my body is suppose to go to sleep and the mind stay awake , neither would go to sleep even in normal circumstances after an hour.
By being an insomniac does this mean i might have to wait 2-3 hours!!
Personally speaking, I think it can be a disadvantage because your consciousness' first instinct is to simply fall asleep to get that much needed rest. I'm much the same way. If the problem is, as you say, your mind is allowed to run wild at night, then learning to control your mind via meditation would be a grand first step for you. When you are finally able to project, you're going to want that control over your mind.
QuoteThirdly , ive not got to a stage where theres large vibrations and large sounds , but is it a likelyhood for people to try to move their "astral" arm or roll out , and find that they just physically do it.
I don't do exits of that sort. I don't roll out, sit up, or move anything. My chosen method/type of projection is what we call Phasing. It's a smooth (or semi smooth) transition of your consciousness from this physical reality to the non-physical while remaining consciously aware. I believe it's the "easier" way of projecting, but that's just my biased opinion. :)
I personally believe people try to make all this stuff harder and more complicated than it actually is. Projection is really just falling asleep while remaining consciously awake and aware. :)
Goodluck!
I would suggest that you would take astralp's advice. In my case I alway to my work when everybody is sleeping, with this I can have peace of mind and a good energy for work.
Best Regards