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Title: Imagination/Intent a viable separation method?
Post by: VXS on June 20, 2011, 11:39:39
I had a series of interesting lucid dreams and/or possible projections early this morning, interspersed with (unsuccessful) attempts to roll out and separate from my body. 

For some reason I was no longer able to do Raduga's roll out or sit up, even after cycling through various techniques such as swimming or arm wiggling.

I WAS however able to have several lucid and very vivid experiences by just imagining myself standing somewhere in my room and then trying to 'materialize' my senses and deepen my experience. I tried Robert Bruce's rope technique one time, and although I could not really imagine the rope or the climbing sensation, I spontaneously gained vision hovering over my bed.

Most of the 'projections' were very dark, that is the best way that I can describe them. My vision had a very low level of lighting that I could not improve with deepening techniques or requesting 'awareness now'.

I continued trying the traditional separation techniques every time that I returned to my body, but I would either get real physical movement which disrupted my paralysis or I would just get nothing at all. Other times I seemingly just willed myself out and ended up in the 'dark' version of my room that I described before. Is this wrong? I want to also mention that I have not felt a vibration since I started having 'successful' separations. 

The second problem I have is a complete lack of control. When I'm in my room or try to float through my house I can kind of control myself, but once I try and fly out through a window or jump into a mirror it is as I'm being flown into a million directions and just quickly jump between different scenes. Some of these scenes were very vivid and fantastical, at one point I was in space and fell into a swirling vortex/portal, at another point I felt like I had intruded on an alien home world and had begun to attract the attention of the inhabitants. However, when ever I tried to transport myself somewhere I was  unsuccessful and in most cases I could not even control my flight path.

A few times I was transported to scenes that did not have the 'dark vision', these seemed more dream-like because I was having conversations with people and pre-involved in certain situations. I still did have vivid sensations and full consciousness at these times. Once I was swimming through clear blue water and as I made an attempt to deepen the sensations and make it feel real, it became very real as if my physical body was swimming in real life. Most of the conversations that I had during these times involved AP. I felt like I was asking everyone 'Is it real?' and a few people I asked 'what do you represent?'. One guy gave me a long speech about how it was very similar to a lucid dream, and in that way it was not real, but that did not mean that it wasn't real to me or that it wasn't amazing that I had figured it out. I felt like he was giving me a lot of information but I started to lose my focus and couldn't hear the message after a while. Other people that I talked to said it was absolutely real, and that they were real people that were projecting. I tried to pry for more information, and when they did not respond I started yelling out my full name and home address in the physical...the people faded out from my awareness soon after. The swimming scene I described earlier involved a beautiful woman in some sort of body of water calling to me to join her. I was a little hesitant to take the bait so for some reason I blurted out "are you evil??", her response was "do you want me to be?" as if to say that I was in control and the experience would only turn negative if I chose.

There were a series of guys in white suits who appeared during the 'people' experiences who referred to themselves as 'helpers' or 'support'. I felt like they had a lot of wisdom to share but I was not able to absorb much of it. There were a few times that I called out into the sky asking for my spirit guide or higher self, but no such spirit ever came to meet me.

One time I was in my house in 'dark vision', I tested a light switch remembering I had read somewhere about that. I felt the physical switch in a very real way, although the lighting did not change. I did not pass through it like a ghost. I don't know what this means. Another time I was in my room but I was completely trapped, the walls were very real and I could not jump through them and fly out of the house.

I'll wrap it up, since it felt like I had a ton of experiences and it would take forever to list them all out here. There was a dichotomy between the dark vision floating around my house/floating uncontrolled through the universe, and more traditional type scenes where there were a lot of people around me and I was asking them about astral projection. There were times during both where I felt everything was very vivid and lucid, and that I had my full consciousness that I had left my body and gone somewhere else.
Title: Re: Imagination/Intent a viable separation method?
Post by: Xanth on June 20, 2011, 11:51:19
Quote from: VXS on June 20, 2011, 11:39:39
I had a series of interesting lucid dreams and/or possible projections early this morning, interspersed with (unsuccessful) attempts to roll out and separate from my body. 

For some reason I was no longer able to do Raduga's roll out or sit up, even after cycling through various techniques such as swimming or arm wiggling.
There's no need to focus back towards your body, then "roll out" again, because you were already "out" due to being lucidly aware while in the non-physical.  :)

To answer the specific question posed by the subject line... Yup!  Using your imagination combined with your Intent is a very viable means to successfully project with.  It's actually a type of projection that we teach here called "Phasing".

With Phasing, you prime your consciousness and "lure" it away from this physical reality by engrossing it's attention away from the physical and towards your "imagination".  There are, however, no senses of "separation" as you don't require that action.  The action of Phasing is one of a smooth shift of consciousness from "here" (physical) to "there" (non-physical).

As for your troubles with lack of control ... I believe that's a battle of conscious awareness vs your subconscious.  The more you can bring your full "waking awareness" forward, the more control you'll have during your experiences.

As for your particular experiences that you share here, they're awesome!  Great job and congratulations!  :)
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Imagination/Intent a viable separation method?
Post by: VXS on June 20, 2011, 22:45:44
Thanks, yeah every time I post here it's after I've had an experience. It's due to my excitement after the fact and desire to recount what happened.

I understand a lot of the stuff is kind of weird, and looking back at it now it feels like some elaborate fantasy story I've concocted and put up on some random internet message board. But I know these experiences truly excite me and when I wake up after a bunch of them my mind is racing to recount and relive what I saw.

I've never believed in anything magical or esoteric in my life, but for some reason I came across this subject matter and after getting some advice on this forum I started having these weird dreams and non-physical experiences. It doesn't happen every day, actually the infrequency of my posts here is an approximate reflection of how often it happens. But on those mornings that it does happen it feels like boom boom boom, very lucid dreams combined with being aware of my body sleeping and trying to separate.  

Whether these are dreams or something more, I will continue to explore to see if I can gain any value to aid in my physical life. I think the waking awareness now is the only key distinction I can make between dream and 'projection', and I hope that my awareness will continue to improve. I need to stop being hung up on what is 'real' and not real, and delve further into the power of my subconscious mind.
Title: Re: Imagination/Intent a viable separation method?
Post by: Xanth on June 21, 2011, 09:23:59
Quote from: VXS on June 20, 2011, 22:45:44
I've never believed in anything magical or esoteric in my life
That's good, because I really don't believe there is anything "magical" or "esoteric" about astral projection.  :)