Too early Too Dangerous?

[kie101]

i was just wondering awhile back before i started reading any robert bruces work or anythin to do with AP obe, i took an intrest into it while my big bro was into it all anyway i didnt have any much knowledge of this at all i only knew what my brother told me so i picked up an obe cd and laid down on the couch and relaxed tranced out even and after 10 minutes or so i started to feel heavy rapid (what i thought) heart beat as i now know it was the chakra it was extremly rapid and started to see things.
Anyway i stoped and had a talk with my brother about it and not much i did it again and again the same things occured, after that i took a big intrest and started reading websites "RB astral dynamics"(still on that jst started) "mastering astral in 90 days" and jst got his psychic defense book well i havnt tried any obe attemps again for awhile and i have more overall knowledge about it now.
Well my question is do you think its wise to try an obe while im still learning (reading) astral D and the mastering 90 book? i do admit i am young and eager i mean i would like to try an obe while im doing these things with RB work but if its dangerous to do so i wont and i will after ive fully learned RB work. Big Thanks kieran.

[Awakened_Mind]

Go for it. You don't need to inundate yourself with information. If you feel you are ready then go for it. You know yourself even better than Robert Bruce does  .

I say get started straight away.

Happy travelling,

-AM

[Novice]

I think there is such a thing as reading too much on a subject before attempting it. I think you end up going in with preconceived ideas of results that are not necessarily what you experience.

There is no danger, so don't worry about that. And not everyone here beleives in the psychic self-defense stuff. So before reading on every aspect of it all. I would suggest you start practicing and just let whatever happens happen. When you natural ability is allowed to function, it usually happens faster and easier than letting the mind get in the way with what you should do at what point and what you should be feeling at what point.

Also, on a seperate note: could you please use some punctuation in your posts. I had a hard time following your post because it was basically one REALLY long sentence with different thoughts. Thanks!

[kie101]

lol thx and sorry about that ive gota bad habit of doing that, well if ive nothin to lose then il go for it.
Many Thanks kieran.

[Zarklon]

Hey Kie101 , I just wanted to give my 2 cents here..  I've had tons of OBEs and it has changed my life in so many ways.. I never read a single book on "how" to do it.. all I really did to find anything out was ask some questions on this forum and eventually I had enough things to piece together in my mind , my own ideas and ways to accomplish having an OBE for myself.   Books can tell you thinks that might not necessarilly be true and these things can create barriers that limit you..

For instance..  you will read numerous times how you might have to be totally relaxed , totally comfortable , stress free , in a quiet place or whatever  but I can tell you that you can be running 103 fever , in a cold noisy classroom in a hard wooden desk sitting upright with a neck ache and 30 people chatting loudly around you... and you can still go OBE and almost effortlessly I might add.. 

And NO , I'm not Guru at astral projection.. I find it quite hard to do but I've been researching this stuff pretty much on my own for a couple of years now and its fascinating to say the least..  Just dont believe everything you hear especially when it could hold you back.  But with that being said .. dont be too close minded to what other tell you because you never know when you'll find that bit of truth. 

Good luck !

[Awakened_Mind]

Seeing is believing, but don't believe all you see.

If you think about it rationally, the early projectors did it with no information at all. No forums, no books and more than likely - no concept of an OBE all together. If you get started then come back and report your experiences on these forums, someone will help you through it. We can all relate to how frustrating/difficult it is at the beginning but I really don't know of any member who won''t try to help you.

Happy travelling,

-AM

[kie101]

Thanks "Zarklon" and "awakend mind" that has actually put things in a different prespective for me in a gd way,
Thank you all i will take your advice in and do it and i will keep track of my process.
Matter of fact i have a strange story i will tell you i had acouple of nights ago i wasnt sure if i was dreaming or i was projecting, it was very vage i was in my bedroom and what i can describe it was like going back and forth constantly and feeling so strange(this happend after i went to bed Btw) im not 2 sure how but it certainly wasnt my everynite kind of dream,
first i remember feeling like i was at one place in my bedroom then suddenly in another as i said it was very vage but it was an extraordinary experience and its only happend when i started riteing down dreams or maybe i only really just started to remember when i started to rite my dreams down, anyway thank you again as i said you have put things into a different prespective for me.
Kieran.

[Awakened_Mind]

A common obstacle in early attempts is accepting the fact that you were out of your body. Some SCUBA divers find it scary to adjust to breathing under water in the beginning.

If the experience was distinct to a dream and you feel you were somehow out of your body, I'd say you probably were. Embrace it. The more you attempt projection, the clearer it will become that in fact you were out of your body.

-AM

[David Warner]

Kie101,

When I first experience my first full projection it took me roughly couple of months. I read much that I could on the subject, but honestly nothing compares to first hand experience. Its excellent to read much that you can, asorb, form your ideas, research but it all comes down to crafting your own skill and development.

If your able to project your consciousness on the first attempt, go for it and enjoy. You will find out what works, what doesn't with trial and error.

Keep up the good work!

Tvos

[Awakened_Mind]

We are all emissaries of truth. To completely understand, it's better to see it for yourself.

-AM