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Originally posted by SpectralDragon
When I OBE into space the earth is always blue, and never when I go to what should be the "dark" side of the earth is it...well...dark. It always looks like it is facing the sun, though I can see the sun past the earth. I wonder if this is related to why TV screens are always fuzzy or hazy, and why the ocean is sometimes not navigable by astral projection.
I have noticed that other planets have a dark side though, but not all. I wonder why this is. Perhaps I am doing something wrong? Though I don't see how that is possible, I have been projecting very well for about 4-5 years.
I envy you in your great sucess with OBEs.[:P]
That is rather peculiar though, I guess Id have to see it myself first. Also, what do you mean by "..,and why the ocean is sometimes not navigable by astral projection"?
Sorry I couldnt help, by the way.
[V]
I wonder...
Could that be because you are not actually looking at the "pysical" earth, but looking at the "spirit" earth?
She's alive. You might not be looking at the physically reflected light, but her lifeforce.
Just a thought.
James.
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Originally posted by James S
I wonder...
Could that be because you are not actually looking at the "pysical" earth, but looking at the "spirit" earth?
She's alive. You might not be looking at the physically reflected light, but her lifeforce.
Just a thought.
James.
I was wondering the same thing, but wouldn't the life force extend beyond the planet?
Could someone else try this out and see what you see?
This reminds me of a dream I once had it was the longest dream of my life. It was 2 days long in my dream so I wont go into it. But in my dream it was as if I died and was on a plane to an 'lifeforce earth were people were there. On the top hemispher was like 'heaven' and the bottom was like 'hell' although I didnt see nothing wrong about the people when I was there it was just like that and there was a force field on the equator so would stop other people from passing from one side to the other.
Just my to cents. [|)]
*wanders off into a wall*
Well, I don't know what all this other talk is about but the thing with the dark side of the Earth being just as well lit as the side facing the sun is because astral vision is not limited by an available light source. In fact, you can turn off all the lights in your house at night, then project and see everything clear as day. Spectral Dragon, you are merely seeing "black light." And not the bulbs you'd find at a party, but genuine black light. Black light exists even in the physical plane, it just can't be seen with the the physical eyes because eyes can only see light that is reflected to them. In black lights, all the light is absorbed, turning it into a null space called a 'shadow'. While projecting, however, you can actually see this light clearly, which again, explains why the Earth is lit from all directions.
Hope that helped![:D]
Hi All,
Perhaps you were also seeing the magnetic field glow, being energy it is visible too when in spirit. The Earth's glow from human generated fields would certainly light it up close to the surface.
The other suggestions so far have all been valid too. I tend to agree that Our Earth's energy field would extend beyond the standing magnetic wave, the human generated magnetic field, and the human life-force field.
It is possible that different levels of RTZ may exist. Based on the fairly accepted spiritual view, we create the reality, so there must be variances within this area too.
I tend to think that we are, in a sense, wasting time and awareness hanging around the RTZ when Astral anyway. We have the chance to re-experience our self and remember what we are while exploring the further reaches of what exists 'out there'. So why stay around here when we are able to journey out ? [:P]
Love Always. [:)]
Another theory could be that since earth has a lot of spiritual energy surrounding it, you could be seeing the light that comes from people and spirits. It could be the same as when you are in a dark place and you project your own light energy so you can see, the darkness is simply an absence of spiritual energy.
This makes me wonder if OOBE is more than it seems to be. Is it really this world or a copy of it with more info?
I'd wager it's the case of having seen more pictures of Earth from the dayside and that information affecting the way you interpret your perception of earth during the obe.
Besides, Earth is much prettier on the dayside, isnt it? [:)]
2cents & L&L
jouni'
SpectralDragon,
Is it possible your seeing this in the prospective from two suns? Your light source wouldn't cast a shadow. The shadows you can see, through a veil?
I've also read there is symbology in which two suns/sons are connected,the light said of,Jesus and/or counterpart.
Here is a recent link I ran into, though not familiar with the subject, it's interesting.
http://www.greatdreams.com/twosuns.htm
Could you be seeing a reflection of the multidimensional universe,and/or simutaneous time? There's a lot of double things in my life, and sometimes triple, and more. A recent example, my daughter laughed after she called me for the second time on the same day to wish me a Happy Mother's Day.
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Originally posted by wisp
SpectralDragon,
Is it possible your seeing this in the prospective from two suns? Your light source wouldn't cast a shadow. The shadows you can see, through a veil?
I've also read there is symbology in which two suns/sons are connected,the light said of,Jesus and/or counterpart.
Here is a recent link I ran into, though not familiar with the subject, it's interesting.
http://www.greatdreams.com/twosuns.htm
Could you be seeing a reflection of the multidimensional universe,and/or simutaneous time? There's a lot of double things in my life, and sometimes triple, and more. A recent example, my daughter laughed after she called me for the second time on the same day to wish me a Happy Mother's Day.
I haven't looked at the site yet, but could you elaborate on your meaning in the first paragraph? I don't understand what the second sun is.
Edit: I would also like to add that I did not percieve two suns. I have 360 degree perception in the astral and would have noticed such. The sun is the most percievable object in space, not only by sight but by the feel of things out there. When you are dealing with those kinds of distances....well distance becomes less of a problem oddly.
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Originally posted by Red Dragon
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Originally posted by SpectralDragon
When I OBE into space the earth is always blue, and never when I go to what should be the "dark" side of the earth is it...well...dark. It always looks like it is facing the sun, though I can see the sun past the earth.
This is good, congratulations![:)] The dark side is right now, is just a limit of your sensitivity's reach or visa vera, its reach to you. Eventually, you could be further out into space and see the whole planet.
This is well developed earth consciousness in conjunction with your OBE or AP abilities and is a function of the 2nd eye of the mysteries, of the 1st 2 eyes of the mysteries or your brow chakra/pituitary gland.
Do you have deep earth sensitivities yet or want them? They can be developed at this stage.
Can you "talk to animals" yet or want to? This ability can be developed at this stage. (Its a limited conversation, they have sh*t for brains, but they're cute and good eating. They can also be used as an indirect communications ability, via animals instead of mind to mind.)
"Strings of light" or "umbilical chord" abilities can be developed at this stage.
Do you want "mother earth" communicating abilities? They can be developed this stage, but the only way I know of developing this is "dancing with the dragon". From your handle, have you done this?
You also have, at your stage of development, a little bit of metaphysical colour blindness, which is not unusual. As your colour sensitivity evolves, the earth will appear in multi-colours.
Have fun![:P]
Red Dragon (the dragons between heaven and earth)
Raven shaman[8D]
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Interesting, I have a lot of these at some level or another though some not a very deep level. Do you know of this from personal experience or you going by reading something?
SpectralDragon,
My experience has been Moon Reflection at dark on Earth.When transported to a different dimension, I could see the Moon behind my shoulder.But when I attempted to look directly at the moon, I discovered it was my own light being emitted. Something of a two way view, the best way to describe it. Would this be the same with a Sun experience? The veil is invisible or in the form of two prospectives (moon behind me/me the moon light). In my experience, I came to recognize my own light. I'm thinking, this may be your own experience. The experience I've discovered is very similar when the sun reflects during the day time, just faster, and harder to recognize. The Moon experience in the altered reality was much slower and I had time to experience it.So that's what I'm suggesting, you may be emitting light which would not cast a shadow. The Sun activity you mentioned, may be the other prospective.
It's hard to explain. Imagine yourself as light,the dark is the invisible part, also yourself (shadow self). Also hard to explain when your the center of your own being.
I don't know what the two Suns mean either. I was thinking maybe since I'm more Earth bound, maybe others have a different prospective.A shot in the dark [:)].
I have noticed that if I focus in different ways that I can see things differently. I think I know what "dance with the dragon is" However I think I am seeing dragon in a different light than you, Red Dragon [:)]
I have really only been astral projecting for...4-5 years. But because of certain things that have happened in my life I seem to learn quicker than most. I can project while walking down the street, for example. Do you have any thoughts on this?
I will post more later. Hearing your words has been a highlight for me Red Dragon :)
Spectral Dragon,
The reason that you could see clearly on the "dark side" is because you are crazy.
NO JUST KIDDING, it sounded funny in my brain, so I thought someone else might get a laugh. No offence.
I like what James S said about looking at the spirit side of Earth, Gia.
Also MajorTom makes a good point about multi dimensions. In Joachim Wolf's book "Understanding the Grand Design" he talks in depth about multi dimensions, and a great many other things. I HIGHLY recommend it to any one interested in that sort of thing. I guarantee that there is a tremendous amount of information that he shares.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11283
Neo Shiavo also talks about seeing in the dark during an OBE. I have not had that happen yet, as I do it in the morning when it is light. But I have read the same thing he says in several different places.
WOW Red Dragon that is so cool. I have not found anyone else talking about shamanistic stuff on this site. My totem is a Grizzly Bear, a rabbit, and an Eagle.
(The Grizzly stands outstretched, the Rabbit is at the left leg, and the Eagle is in a take off/landing mode. Both feet on the shoulders of the Grizzly, leaning forward, wings out.)
Would you mind sharing a few good links, as I am no longer able to talk to the person that originally got me involved?
I apologize for a long post, but there are just so many good comments out there.
Thanks all for reading and answering my questions.
Thelou
I laughed. [:D]
Red Dragon I think I am going to try out some of the things you suggested, firstly talking to mother earth. I have been trying to find the words for what I wanted to say about all of this but it's so.... "much" that I simply can't at the moment.
Hi Spectraldragon,
I think I might understand what your saying, but before I talk about it and waist space if I am wrong...
What is it that you want to talk to Mother Earth about? Have you tried to start simple such as go out and talk to a tree first? Different aspects of talking to nature have different answers and purposes of being. (I once studied under a Druid)
Yes, whenever I have an OBE it is always bright, if not really bright, even when it is dark. It is very peaceful, and have never seen the dark from the RTZ, it is always light where I am.
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Originally posted by thelou
Hi Spectraldragon,
I think I might understand what your saying, but before I talk about it and waist space if I am wrong...
What is it that you want to talk to Mother Earth about? Have you tried to start simple such as go out and talk to a tree first? Different aspects of talking to nature have different answers and purposes of being. (I once studied under a Druid)
Well, if you can call it "talking" yes I have.
The dark side of the earth is dark, cause it is the shadow of the earth, you are looking at. Now you could see if there are Shadows in the astral at all. when you stand in the sun, is there a shadow visible on the ground? that experiment would help to understand what is going on. either there are no Shadows at all, which would point in the direction, that you don't need light to see in the astral, or some objects have a shadow and others do not.
Just an idea, Tom
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Well, if you can call it "talking" yes I have.
Did they talk back?
I also think its because the world you see is mostly made up of the stuff (astral matter?) that is in the precurser to the denser atomic structure of the earth. Its like a assembly line..in the astral the assembly is just about complete...and as the "products" continue down the alimentary canal of development, they take on more gravity and density and become the thing we're standing on (earth). The stratification of things is everywhere - everything physical happens metaphysically first..then it (i.e., the thought) decends thru the metaphysical layers, picking up attributes as it evolves. In the astral, you are at a stage of thought-development, that has not solidified. Your astral eyes are not yet solidified and they pick-up the frequencies they are in-tune with. That said...it appears the earth is blue as it continues to be fed life sustaining spritual energy.
Also: on an other subject...have you been to the dark side of the moon? If so, have you seen the different structures?
When I OBE into space the earth is always blue, and never when I go to what should be the "dark" side of the earth is it...well...dark. It always looks like it is facing the sun, though I can see the sun past the earth. I wonder if this is related to why TV screens are always fuzzy or hazy, and why the ocean is sometimes not navigable by astral projection.
I have noticed that other planets have a dark side though, but not all. I wonder why this is. Perhaps I am doing something wrong? Though I don't see how that is possible, I have been projecting very well for about 4-5 years.