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Jibreel

Hello,

I often hear the Robert Monroe Institute being referenced and apparently it has received widespread fame amongst the 'Astral Projection' community.

I would like to know, is this institute a scientific institute? From all my research on this phenomena known as "out of body experiences" I have not found one scientificaly-conducted experiment which was done to test the validity of such experiences.

Is this due to the fear that in the end there will be nothing to prove such experiences as being more than a dream or hallucination?

Is this Monroe Institute a scientific instittue? If so, were there any documented experiments to account for?

I ofted hear members on this forum quoting Robert Monroe, or Robert bruce, or Adrian Cooper, in things that apparently have no evidence or documentation of their truthfulness. Yet, I see members following such statements blindly as if its some sort of revelation. I find this to be a childish, superstitutious, and almost ridiculous way to obtain information about reality and the afterlife.

In any case, If you have any information regarding experiments done at the 'Robert Monroe' Institute, please paste the information.

Thank you,

Jibreel

MisterJingo

Quote from: JibreelHello,

I often hear the Robert Monroe Institute being referenced and apparently it has received widespread fame amongst the 'Astral Projection' community.

I would like to know, is this institute a scientific institute? From all my research on this phenomena known as "out of body experiences" I have not found one scientificaly-conducted experiment which was done to test the validity of such experiences.

Is this due to the fear that in the end there will be nothing to prove such experiences as being more than a dream or hallucination?

The difficulty is being able to reproduce OBEs at will in laboratory settings, and when the OBE occurs, the participant having enough control to conduct the necessary experiments.

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Is this Monroe Institute a scientific instittue? If so, were there any documented experiments to account for?


The Monroe Institute is a scientific institute. In part, it research the effects of various sound waves and frequencies on the brain, behavior and various conditions.
A list of some of the research papers published can be found here:

http://www.hemi-sync.com/store/pages.php?pageid=14

Doing some research will find a lot more.

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I ofted hear members on this forum quoting Robert Monroe, or Robert bruce, or Adrian Cooper, in things that apparently have no evidence or documentation of their truthfulness. Yet, I see members following such statements blindly as if its some sort of revelation. I find this to be a childish, superstitutious, and almost ridiculous way to obtain information about reality and the afterlife.

I agree that some people take on board beliefs without question, but many others take in what they say and attempt to validate it for themselves. Either way, being critical or hostile won't help skeptics or believers.

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In any case, If you have any information regarding experiments done at the 'Robert Monroe' Institute, please paste the information.

Thank you,

Jibreel

See the link posted above. If you are really serious about this, then do some research yourself, and also contact the institute asking for information on scientific papers they have published.

Novice

QuoteI ofted hear members on this forum quoting Robert Monroe, or Robert bruce, or Adrian Cooper, in things that apparently have no evidence or documentation of their truthfulness. Yet, I see members following such statements blindly as if its some sort of revelation. I find this to be a childish, superstitutious, and almost ridiculous way to obtain information about reality and the afterlife.

Hmm....if you mean that you find the thought of blindly following another person in spiritual matters to be childish, superstitious and ridiculous, I would somewhat agree with you. I think it is dangerous to blindly follow anything, that includes religion. I always suggest that people read and experience for themselves.

Now if you are saying that attempting to obtain information about reality and "the afterlife" by using these techniques is childish, superstitious and ridiciulous, I would have to disagree with you. You want scientific evidence for something that, in my opinion, can only be 'proved' through personal experience. Its like trying to scientifically prove God exists. To my knowledge that hasn't yet beed done, but I see a WHOLE lot of people attending churches, synogagues, temples, etc and following all of the rules and rituals their respective faiths dictate. All in the pursuit of spirituality or as you called "the afterllife".

So are all of these people childish, superstitious and ridiculous? I don't think so. They are each following their own heart/path. I think that is all anyone can do.

QuoteIs this Monroe Institute a scientific instittue? If so, were there any documented experiments to account for?

If you want this answer, you will need to contact them directly as they are not affiliated with this site. Their website is below:

http://www.monroeinstitute.com/

Good luck with finding your answers!
Reality is what you perceive it to be.

mactombs

You sound like I did - where's the proof? As if authority somehow made reality (that's a logical fallacy listed in Carl Sagan's Baloney Detector as in Demon Haunted World). Why be so lazy and expect someone to prove something to you when you can experience it yourself?

It reminds me of a delightful snippet in the Life of Pi (by Yann Martel):

"I can well imagine an atheist's last words: 'White, white! L-L-Love! My God!'--and the deathbed leap of faith. Whereas the agnostic, if he stays true to his reasonable self, if he stays beholden to dry, yeastless factuality, might try to explain the warm light bathing him by saying, 'Possibly a f-f-failing oxygenation of the b-b-brain,' and, to the very end, lack imagination and miss the better story."

Considering myself an agnostic at the time, that paragraph struck me, as did the sentence: "To choose doubt as a philosophy of life is akin to choosing immobility as a means of transportation."

I suggest taking a leap and experiencing an OBE for yourself.
A certain degree of neurosis is of inestimable value as a drive, especially to a psychologist - Sigmund Freud

Token

Quote from: JibreelHello,


I ofted hear members on this forum quoting Robert Monroe, or Robert bruce, or Adrian Cooper, in things that apparently have no evidence or documentation of their truthfulness. Yet, I see members following such statements blindly as if its some sort of revelation. I find this to be a childish, superstitutious, and almost ridiculous way to obtain information about reality and the afterlife.

Jibreel

Although you will certainly find some people taking the author's (Monroe, et al) statements about the afterlife or whatever to be facts, this is certainly not the reason these authors are discussed.  These authors are simply the most vocal about the OB experience and have the most publicly available journals about their personal experiences.  If you are planning a trip to Africa, you might tend to watch a movie about Africa such as well..."Out of Africa".  This doesn't mean that everything in the movie is true, but after watching it, you might have a pretty good idea about what Africa is like.
Ken ("The Original Ken" from alt.out-of-body)

WarpedReality

Quote from: Jibreel
I would like to know, is this institute a scientific institute? From all my research on this phenomena known as "out of body experiences" I have not found one scientificaly-conducted experiment which was done to test the validity of such experiences.

Is this due to the fear that in the end there will be nothing to prove such experiences as being more than a dream or hallucination?

Nope. In fact me and all of these board members would love to know if these experiences transcend simple brain-related manifestations. If you do a search on this board then you will see members conducting 'validity' experiments or attempting to verify their experiences with information obtained while Out o body. So no, I'd actually say the exact opposite holds true (if anything): we're more fearful that we'll never get the chance to determine if this is all escapism or the real deal.

And think about it anyways. Who would honestly be able to make a case and acquire grant money to study out of body experiences? So far we had to rely on wealthy business men like Robert Monroe to fund research in this area.

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I ofted hear members on this forum quoting Robert Monroe, or Robert bruce, or Adrian Cooper, in things that apparently have no evidence or documentation of their truthfulness. Yet, I see members following such statements blindly as if its some sort of revelation. I find this to be a childish, superstitutious, and almost ridiculous way to obtain information about reality and the afterlife.

In any case, If you have any information regarding experiments done at the 'Robert Monroe' Institute, please paste the information.

What are you talking about. Everyone here uses the books as guides to experiencing alternate realities, not as truth. Truth about this comes from personal verification. The only truth we take for granted is the actual techniques and methods used to get out of our body. And we should.


Do a google search on Robert monroe institute or hemi-sync.