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seapony

Hi every one....
I have a few questions I'd love to get feedback on...

1) In wanting to go out of body..what is you intent ? Just WHY do you want to do this ?

2) Has anybody noticed that going OB  is affected by having electronics on and close by ?
    You know...Is your cell phone by the bed an on and you have no luck, but you leave it in the other room
   and out you go ?  ( I could get a whole lot deeper and ask if any one gas any thoughts on whether HARRP
  or chemtrails might affect things...hmmmm?)

Just wondering !

Szaxx

Hi Seapony welcome to the Pulse.
1, Can't answer this one. I've always experienced the oob state from first memories. It's natural...
2, no, quite the opposite.
HAARP has little to do with the art of projection. Being around in the 70's at the height of this, I still got out and had many experiences.

Why ask these questions?
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Volgerle

Quote from: seapony on January 17, 2014, 16:41:47
Hi every one....
I have a few questions I'd love to get feedback on...

1) In wanting to go out of body..what is you intent ? Just WHY do you want to do this ?

2) Has anybody noticed that going OB  is affected by having electronics on and close by ?
   You know...Is your cell phone by the bed an on and you have no luck, but you leave it in the other room
  and out you go ?  ( I could get a whole lot deeper and ask if any one gas any thoughts on whether HARRP
 or chemtrails might affect things...hmmmm?)

Just wondering !

1) why would you NOT want to go outside of your house especially if the weather is beautiful with the sun shining and all? :wink:

2) people do OBEs since they, well, actually are on this planet obviously, since thousands and thousands of years, there are many mythical accounts and even today's surviving religions are based on some of these experiences, OBE is not an 'invention' of our time...
all of the ancients did not have electronics, supposedly, although other technologies that help are a possibility, but most of all you do it with your mind
and it's even vice versa, you can influence electrionic devices while out-of-body, I had a recent experience with this, it's called 'electrokinesis' (although you needn't be oob when you do this)

CFTraveler

Quote from: seapony on January 17, 2014, 16:41:47
Hi every one....
I have a few questions I'd love to get feedback on...

1) In wanting to go out of body..what is you intent ? Just WHY do you want to do this ?
Because I can.  Because I have, and it was cool.  It's that simple.

Quote2) Has anybody noticed that going OB  is affected by having electronics on and close by ?
    You know...Is your cell phone by the bed an on and you have no luck, but you leave it in the other room
   and out you go ? 
I haven't had that experience.  My house is full of 'hot spots' and as of now I have been able to project from almost every room.  But I have noticed that the time of the month seems to make a difference, and I don't know why that is. 

Quote( I could get a whole lot deeper and ask if any one gas any thoughts on whether HARRP
  or chemtrails might affect things...hmmmm?)
I don't know- if one is to believe the theories regarding HAARP, the effects would be in the upper atmosphere, and that is not where we end up usually from most projections, and I don't see how any kind of chemical in the air would affect the 'ethereal/nonphysical' or however you want to call it.  Unless the chemicals affect your brain, and then the effects would be more obvious and motivated towards some other end.


Why?

seapony

Okay...guess I need to be  more clear....

1) I'm curious as to peoples intent, because I've met some who's intent seem to be of a physical nature ,(and yes I've met some one
who said they wanted to go out of body because they heard that astral sex was there for the having... but its not just that...),
and I was wondering if that was why some people have trouble going out. Think about it...if your thoughts are physical, wouldn't that affect
your actions ? If you THINK about the physical act of, say, climbing a rope to get out, isn't that thinking more about your body than about
your mind or consiousness ? I have practiced with this....and in that half and half state, thought hard about throwing a ball, and my arm
twitched....But not when I thought about watching or following a moving ball....get it ? Maybe thinking about how you phrase in your mind
what it is you want to do, it might be easyier to do !

2)  I ask about this...electronic and EMF's in general as well as things like chemtrails, because I've noticed a difference in my abilitys
on days when there seem to be different energy's around or more jets going over, and wondered if others had too. I live very remote,
and it is often very quiet here...but some times I came hear/feel a strong humm or vibration that I do not know from where it comes.
hass any one noticed this ? I have read about it..the "mystery  sound" thing. I can't seem to go OB, or even dream well when I notice this
sound. Sure...there are all sorts of conspiracy theorys about HARRP..but who really knows, eh ?





Xanth

Quote from: seapony on January 20, 2014, 15:41:24
1) I'm curious as to peoples intent, because I've met some who's intent seem to be of a physical nature ,(and yes I've met some one
who said they wanted to go out of body because they heard that astral sex was there for the having... but its not just that...),
and I was wondering if that was why some people have trouble going out. Think about it...if your thoughts are physical, wouldn't that affect
your actions ? If you THINK about the physical act of, say, climbing a rope to get out, isn't that thinking more about your body than about
your mind or consiousness ? I have practiced with this....and in that half and half state, thought hard about throwing a ball, and my arm
twitched....But not when I thought about watching or following a moving ball....get it ? Maybe thinking about how you phrase in your mind
what it is you want to do, it might be easyier to do !
You seem to be asking about the different reasons people project.
Quite frankly, it can range from the completely mundane to the most spiritual thing you could think of (how subjective is that!  hehe).

Most people do have a problem with projecting and you're actually quite right... they allow their mind to get in the way of the process.  If you stop interfering with yourself... projection is a natural thing.

Quote2)  I ask about this...electronic and EMF's in general as well as things like chemtrails, because I've noticed a difference in my abilitys
on days when there seem to be different energy's around or more jets going over, and wondered if others had too. I live very remote,
and it is often very quiet here...but some times I came hear/feel a strong humm or vibration that I do not know from where it comes.
hass any one noticed this ? I have read about it..the "mystery  sound" thing. I can't seem to go OB, or even dream well when I notice this
sound. Sure...there are all sorts of conspiracy theorys about HARRP..but who really knows, eh ?
There's nothing fishy or spooky going on here.
You're hearing what every single other creature on this planet hears when there is nothing around to hear.
What you hear is the sound of "no sound".

When you close your eyes you probably see blackness (depending upon the amount of light in the area).  Well, that blackness isn't really BLACK black.  If you look really closely, it's made up of a lot of moving things.  What you're seeing is what your eyes 'see' when there's nothing physical to see.
Well, the same holds true for all of your senses... as long as you're awake (and ostensibly, alive), your 5 senses are ALWAYS working, ALWAYS being bombarded with input from your environment.  So, even when things are super quiet, you hear that "mystery sound"... it's the simply the sound which you're hearing when there is no physical sounds there to hear.  It's usually a combination of sounds being emitted by your body which can include things like the blood flowing through your ears.  It's not HARRP.  :)

Think about your other sense...
You're always tasting something... it might only be the inside of your mouth, but you're always tasting.
You're always feeling something... be it the air on your skin, but you're always feeling.
And you're always smelling something... even if you're not actively breathing in, there is always "something" hitting your olfactory senses.

As you can see, even if you're sitting there doing "nothing"... you're actually doing a lot of things, it's just all automatic.  Now, the key to being able to project is to learn to IGNORE those 5 senses.  Stop listening to the sound of nothing... stop feeling the feeling of the nothing... stop tasting the taste of nothing...

Just ignore it all.  That's when the projection will naturally kick in, because your consciousness WANTS to sense something... so it'll give itself something to sense.  That's a projection. 
You can then direct those senses to something subjective... or something objective.

CFTraveler

Quote from: seapony on January 20, 2014, 15:41:24
Okay...guess I need to be  more clear....

1) I'm curious as to peoples intent, because I've met some who's intent seem to be of a physical nature ,(and yes I've met some one
who said they wanted to go out of body because they heard that astral sex was there for the having... but its not just that...),
and I was wondering if that was why some people have trouble going out. Think about it...if your thoughts are physical, wouldn't that affect
your actions ? If you THINK about the physical act of, say, climbing a rope to get out, isn't that thinking more about your body than about
your mind or consiousness ? I have practiced with this....and in that half and half state, thought hard about throwing a ball, and my arm
twitched....But not when I thought about watching or following a moving ball....get it ? Maybe thinking about how you phrase in your mind
what it is you want to do, it might be easyier to do !
I've been projecting since I was a child, with no control whatsoever, and it was fun, being able to fly and go places, so when I was older and eventually learned that I could make it happen, I then did.  So that's my motivation.  To me the experience came first and the motivation came later.
As to the rope tech, I think that the method has to do with the person's natural tendencies and even though that technique does center you (which is why I never recommend it when there are indications that someone's already 'out') it does put you in the center of the action and forces a movement 'up' of your point of view, instead of the older-fashioned methods of looking at something over there and imagining yourself to be there.  To me that's like watching TV, you're still 'here'.  Now, instead of watching a moving ball, I'd rather imagine (or remember) jumping up and down on a trampoline, and it works for me.  In other words, don't look at the ball, be the ball.....

Quote2)  I ask about this...electronic and EMF's in general as well as things like chemtrails, because I've noticed a difference in my abilitys
on days when there seem to be different energy's around or more jets going over, and wondered if others had too. I live very remote,
and it is often very quiet here...but some times I came hear/feel a strong humm or vibration that I do not know from where it comes.
hass any one noticed this ? I have read about it..the "mystery  sound" thing. I can't seem to go OB, or even dream well when I notice this
sound. Sure...there are all sorts of conspiracy theorys about HARRP..but who really knows, eh ?
Idk- I would think that when the ambient energy is 'different' there may be an effect, but at least for me emfs don't seem to make a difference.  But the hum (and I have heard the hum) actually facilitates exit for me, it's a matter of resonance.



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