Can people block you from projecting?

[mjolnir_knight]

I was wondering if another human, or another entity for that matter, could consciously prevent you from projecting.  Any ideas?

[Flannery]

I think so. Excellent question by the way.

I think that if you confide to someone close that you can project and you have projected before to see that person, with or without ill intentions, and that person wants to "block" you, she or he can, with will, ... actually block you.

As far as an entity blocking you, that might explain "how" a person can block you - she or he'd use an entity to achieve the blocking goal.

All of this is so difficult to prove though. We are all trying to draw conclusions based on our experiences, like detectives trying to draw conclusions from a collection of clues...

I am sorry I could not be more useful.

I am waiting impatiently for other people's input...

[mjolnir_knight]

Thanks.  How can you prevent people from blocking you?  Because I think that that is the case.  I had a friend who all of a sudden turned on me and now I can't project and he knew that I could.

[Selski]

No I don't think other people/entities can block you.  

Because I think that that is the case

You already believe this other person can block you from doing something.  Therefore your belief is blocking you.  You are in effect blocking yourself.  

Remove the belief that someone else has any hold on you, and you will start projecting again.

My opinion, for what it's worth.  

Sarah

[MisterJingo]

An interesting story I heard regarded one of the residential programs at the Monroe institute. A woman found that each time she projected, she found herself in a black place and couldn't do anything or go anywhere. Increasing frustration with this caused her to investigate what was causing it.
It turned out a couple of the men on the course would place this woman in their ECD (energy conversion box – a technique used prior to projection to remove distractive thoughts/influences, so one could focus entirely on the attempt) so they wouldn't be thinking about her in a distractive manner.
On discovering this, the men stopped putting her into their ECDs and she could supposedly project as normal.
Whether this story is true or not, I really don't know. I tried looking for the source of it with no luck (I read it years ago). So while it seems entities might not be able to block our projections, perhaps its possible they could influence them?

My experience to date though has suggested personal belief is paramount, and others can only influence you through your own beliefs.

[Astraldude]

funny you should mention that because my dad also is under the impression that he is being stopped i don't know about it but i do think that it is definitely possible for you to be blocked.
What if someone was able to stand over you as you astrally projected and just pushed you back into your body every time you tried.
Do you think that is possible?

[MisterJingo]

funny you should mention that because my dad also is under the impression that he is being stopped i don't know about it but i do think that it is definitely possible for you to be blocked.
What if someone was able to stand over you as you astrally projected and just pushed you back into your body every time you tried.
Do you think that is possible?

This all depends on your perspective of AP - which I guess boils it down to belief once more.
I see AP as moving onces focus from the physical to a non-physical location, and RTZ (OBE) as moving ones focus from the physical to an area which closely resembles the physical (close proximity?).
So in my view it would be impossible to push someone back into body as they never actually leave. But your views might vary .

[-E-]

I believe that a true belief that you are being blocked may subconsciously stop you being able to project, just like when this woman heard the men were no longer putting here in their ECB's she felt there is no reason for her to not properly AP and so she did.

[sleepingsoul]

always remeber that god is in control of absolutly everything... and his will ,will be done... so if you are using the astral for things you shouldent , that could be the reason

[mjolnir_knight]

MK: Does your friend practice magick? black magick perhaps?

Not to be rude, but he is in no way my friend.  I would rather shoot myself than be his friend.  And I wouldn't doubt that he does.  He is supposedly Satanist.

what matters most is whether you believe he is capable. Are you afraid of your friend?

I can't help but be.  He is lazy, arrogant, and ignorant here in the physical, but he portrays himself as a powerful person in the astral.  And I do believe in magick to some extent, but not all that it's whacked up to be.

Thanks!

[kiwibonga]

Just like someone else has the power to block you, you have the power to block them from blocking you.

This isn't Dragon Ball Z, there's not "more powerful" people, just people who are more aware of their inner strength and willpower than others.

If you refuse to be blocked, if you refuse to believe that anyone can block you, you will not have any trouble.

If you don't feel you are up to it, you can call on the help of others. There is no limit to what you can experience in the astral, especially not due to a selfish person's ill intent.

[mjolnir_knight]

I had a friend.  There is a great emphasis on had.

[-E-]

it sounds like this guy is really gettin to you and the point is he can be a Satanist and practise the 'dark arts of the underworld' as much as he wants, but if he tries it with u in the physical, u make sure u give him a smack from me, then stamp on his head a few times.

[Greytraveller]

It has been reported (by many different people) that spirit guides or helpers have assisted them in leaving their physical body to go OOB. If any of these reports are true (and many reports appear to be sincere) then it would stand to reason that the reverse is also true - that spirits/souls/discarnates can block or prevent a person from having an OBE.
I speak partly from experience because on at least two occasions I encountered negative or hostile entities shortly after projecting OOB. Both of those encounters resulted in violent confrontations. Though I was able to stay OOB for several minutes on both occasions the violent encounters did prematurely end both those projections.
Also my recent prolonged dry spell (only two OBEs in nearly two years) might well be, at least in part, attributed to hostile discarnate(s).

[mjolnir_knight]

Thanks for your help.  It's simply impossible to stop thinking about it.  It is an ongoing battle.  It might even go to court if he doesn't bug off.  I understand what you're saying that if I stop worrying that he can't do a thing.  Just for the record, if he tries to start anything physical... let's just say he can't fight worth crap.

[cainam_nazier]

An interesting story to relate.  Most of my family, the women anyway, project frequently and don't really realize it.  They often in the past have described them as flying dreams and they talk about some of the ones that they have had.  I know what is going on, but they just don't get it so as to not screw up their belief systems I let it go.

Anyhow.  For a short period of time we were having some "problems" in the house just after I had moved back in with my parents.  Some one had brought home an unfriendly.  I noticed this right away but at first did nothing because I was waiting to see if it would leave on its own.  I am a little weird that way.  A couple of months go by and it's still hanging out.  Well every one went on a trip and I had the house to myself.  So I "cleaned" it and to make sure that nothing got back in I put up a wall.  Some thing I started doing when I first moved out on my own.  Nothing in, nothing out with out me knowing it.  Every so often I would go back over and re-enforce the wall, just to make sure.

About six months later I started going to the hypnotherapist.  That is when my mother and my aunt became interested in my spirituality.  So we were talking about what I believed and one of the things that came up was projections.  The two of them both then tell me about their flying dreams.  And how they usually have about one a week that they remember but had not had one since they got back from the trip.  They both said that it was like something was blocking them.  However neither of them felt worried about it because the house seemed to be better anyway.

So basically it boiled down to me telling them about the wall I put up, and the visitor ejected from our house.  And that I didn't realize I was keeping them inside.  About a week after they told me this they both started having their flying dreams again.  And I know when to ask them about them because I know when they leave and come back because they have to go through my wall.