Have a Few Questions About Seeing Other Projectors

[blade5x]

Me and my little brother will be attempting to project at the same time and meet in the projection. The method we will use on saturday/sunday morning is induced sleep-paralysis (We both have a history of sleep-paralysis, actually occuring to us both quite often when we were very young). I have already learned how to induce it in the morning, he has yet to attempt. But when he does, and we both happen to have an OBE at the same time, I have a few questions. Since I have already projected into to etheral plane (that is our goal for now), and I know what its like, and future will projections will undoubtably make me a better a projector in the etheral atleast.

1. If my room is enclosed, I cannot leave it, because I cannot move through objects because my frequency is very close to that of the physical... however. If I use though to try and get into his room, will that work?

2. If I do project into his room and find his etheral body laying on the floor blind barely able to move     Can I touch him without interrupting his OBE? Like grab his arm and pull him into a stand-up position?

3. If I accidently project into the Astral, will I still be able to see him? I know he wouldn't be able to see me, but is it possible to view lower frequency when at a higher one? Or do you have to lower yourself to that frequency?

[Novice]

1. If my room is enclosed, I cannot leave it, because I cannot move through objects because my frequency is very close to that of the physical... however. If I use though to try and get into his room, will that work?

:think:  I'm a bit confused by what you are writing here. If you have an OBE and are in the etheric plane, you can move through the walls you perceive quite easily. You body vibration/density will match the plane on which you find yourself. If you were "too dense" you would be in the physical, not the etheric. I've never had a problem moving through walls while out of body. As for contacting others, for me all I do is think/focus on the person. I don't move (walk, fly, or any other perceived movement). I simply stand still and focus 100% on the person I want to contact. Within what seems like a few seconds, my surrounds have changed and I find them nearby.

2. If I do project into his room and find his etheral body laying on the floor blind barely able to move    Can I touch him without interrupting his OBE? Like grab his arm and pull him into a stand-up position?

If it were me I wouldn't try it only because some people, especially if they haven't had an OBE or have limited experience with them, tend to get freaked out when hands start pulling on them!

3. If I accidently project into the Astral, will I still be able to see him? I know he wouldn't be able to see me, but is it possible to view lower frequency when at a higher one? Or do you have to lower yourself to that frequency?

In my experience, by focusing on him, you automatically adjust your vibration to him. So when you go to him, you will see him and vice versa. Now, whether you both remember the experience is a different subject. It really depends on how much awareness/conscious retention each of you have regarding this experiences. The more you are able to remember/retain, the more you will be willing to validate with each other.

[jalef]

i think the problem of not being able to go through walls is a psychological thing: you believe you cant walk through walls so you cant. if you think that you are too danse then open the door and go normally through the door. the door will open because you expect it to do so (although im quite sure that the real physical door wont move).

[blade5x]

Thanks for the replies. Cleared some things up.

Sorry about being confusing. I was being stupid there. I forgot to realize that even though the Etheric Plane is very similar to the physical, it is not the physical.

I'm still alittle confused though. I thought everything you see in the etheric plane was based of what was happening in the physical in real-time? But the part I am slightly confused on is, is it also like the Astral where you can create things that don't exist on the physical plane? (Such as the door opening).

[-E-]

so, if it is possible for blade5x to meet and communicate with his brother while being out of body, isnt this the same concept behind API, and shouldnt we have seen meetings and the such between APers there?

[blade5x]

so, if it is possible for blade5x to meet and communicate with his brother while being out of body, isnt this the same concept behind API, and shouldnt we have seen meetings and the such between APers there?

I don't much about API, except its similar concept to the Lucid Crossroads. But I specifically read in a few places, that during an Etheric Projection you could see other projectors, which is something that didn't seem to be mentioned for Astral Projecting. [Etheric and Astral are two different planes]

[kiwibonga]

The problem with API is that you need to be careful not to create your own copy of it, you need to go to the one that everyone else goes to -- pretty much the only difficulty besides the usual OBE "issues."

As for not being able to go through walls, "Earth-sickness syndrome" (i.e. psychological blocks that occur when you are too used to gravity, etc...) doesn't seem to be the only issue, there are energetic issues as well which could potentially prevent you from going through certain materials. The etheric is exactly between the astral and the physical, and if you "go low enough," other humans can see you, etc.. So it's very plausible that some people have trouble staying on a vibratory level high enough that they can exist in the same location as physical matter without causing disruption.

When you create a reality fluctuation in which you are able to open a door, you are actually functioning on a higher level, hence you are momentarily not in a dimension close to the physical, you are in an astral realm and simulate the action of going through the door.

I suspect that such an event would look like you teleported to the other side of the door instantaneously to a real-time observer (assuming he doesn't get sucked into that dream world of yours where you can open doors!).

[-E-]

blade5x, could you explain the difference between the Etheric and Astral planes, because i had no idea there was a difference, also what do people mean by phasing as opposed to projecting?

[Lume]

The problem with API is that you need to be careful not to create your own copy of it, you need to go to the one that everyone else goes to -- pretty much the only difficulty besides the usual OBE "issues."

As for not being able to go through walls, "Earth-sickness syndrome" (i.e. psychological blocks that occur when you are too used to gravity, etc...) doesn't seem to be the only issue, there are energetic issues as well which could potentially prevent you from going through certain materials. The etheric is exactly between the astral and the physical, and if you "go low enough," other humans can see you, etc.. So it's very plausible that some people have trouble staying on a vibratory level high enough that they can exist in the same location as physical matter without causing disruption.


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I can definitely relate to that Kiwi!

I know I can go through doors and have had many expierences doing just that.... but sometimes I just seem way more dense than other times... I think I'm about to go through the door, then "BANG" ...I bounce right back and just use the handle instead

Same thing happens when trying to go through sheets that are covering me... I once had to 'kick' through it to get out and had no idea what it was at the time, it felt more like plastic