is this the start of projection?

[Jeff_Mash]

From your description, that certainly DOES sound like the start of a projection.  The next time this happens, try to simply "relax" and melt into them.

Most people fight them at the first onset of their presence, and this can be quite frightening to many novices.  However, you seem to be a good candidate for an OBE.  

When these vibrations come the next time, try to will yourself to roll out of your body and onto the floor next to you.  Let us know how it goes!

[candy girl]

thanks jeff, will try that and see what happens! YOu are right though, it is a bit weird at first![]

[DarkQuest]

i got a question about the roll out thing and i didnt wanna create another topic for it.  so when people try to roll out do they try to roll out physically, mentally, or move physically (dunno how else to put it) so that your astral body pulls out and you are actually moving with your astral body

[Nay]

Good question DarkQuest,

I had the same question several months ago, and I found once the vibrations started I crawled (yes, crawled..hehe.) out like I would physically, plus I was also thinking it, so I think it is a little of both!

On each attempt it has gotten easier, so practice does make perfect []

P.S. I also experienced that I could stand up once I was a good distance from my physical.

Nay []

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by DarkQuest

i got a question about the roll out thing and i didnt wanna create another topic for it.  so when people try to roll out do they try to roll out physically, mentally, or move physically (dunno how else to put it) so that your astral body pulls out and you are actually moving with your astral body

You know, I remember when I first started reading about OBE's, but never having one, I had the exact same question.

All I can say is that when I'm able to project, I just KNOW that I can.  I know that I will not be moving physically.

With that said, when you are in this separation state, you simply roll your body out, just as you roll your physical body out.

You see, many people ask, "How do I know that I will not move my physical instead of my astral body?"  Well, you have to look at it like this.  How many cars are in your family?

"HUH?  Jeff, What are you talking about?"

You see, in my family, I have two cars.  One is mine and one is my wife's.  Now, when I get in my car to drive to work, I can have 100% confidence that no matter how hard I push the gas pedal, my wife's car is not going to go anywhere.

It's kind of the same when you're in your astral body.  When you are at the separation phase, you FEEL your body, but the body you actually feel and think is physical is NOT.  So when you roll out, you FEEL and THINK you're rolling out of the physical, but you're not.

As I have said many times before, I usually have to purposely thrust my hand through a wall or the floor, just to convince myself that I am truly in the astral.  Otherwise, it feels like I really rolled out of bed.

The more you get used to it, the more you understand the mechanics behind it, and it'll become second nature to you.

[DarkQuest]

great Jeff, your explanation here was great and i know have a great understanding.  the car theory really helped me out a lot, thx.  yes at first i thought u were crazy when u asked how many cars were in my family lol, but u got to the point in a great way.  i think i will try again tonite as i have just about every nite and hope for the best with the roll out technique

[candy girl]

Hi this always happens to me early in the morning after I have woken up, been up for a while and intended to go back to sleep again. I am conscious and am starting to feel these full-on vibrations over my entire body. This has recently been accompanied by extremely loud noises such as clanking engine sounds (!) I usually have paralysis too. I haven't got any further than this as it has happenned about 5 times and at first I wasn't sure what was going on. If i get myself out of this state I usually fall into a lucid dream.
Any advice is gratefully welcomed! []