ok just like anything there is good and bad. so is there good and bad on the astral? i have been out and about many many times. have met good and bad things. are they just part of my inner mind. may be they are and may be that arnt. the big questions is haas anyone met another ap'er that was not good and tried to scare or harm you?
for example: i was out one time and in the middle of the country in the area were i grew up. i wanted to meet someone or many someones. i was brought to a place like a college but not in a building we were outside. anways i was told this is a good place to meet others like me. Ok! so i was walking around scopin the area and then another person apeared. he looked confused and started going nuts, was attacking people, well trying too. they were getting scared and i am assuming going back to there bodies. i stayed cuz i am always up for a good rumble and wanted to see what his problem was. anwyas no need for details we fought and he and i both left at the same time.. so not sure if it was and aper or not. but i cant be the only one that has been in a stich with someone..
or am i??
Hmmm. I've read mixed reports on this one. Some people say that the Astral realms are only full of good stuff. Other people say that there are bad areas. It all depends on what you attract. Remember there is no such thing as physical space in the astral. So you will perceive what you attract. I seem to have a close connection to the house I was brought up in. And most of my astral projections I end up there. One time I ended up at my girlfriends house, and I've had OBEs in my house.
As for evil entities who want to harm you? I'm not really seeing much of that. In fact I've yet to see any entity in the astral that I can prove was definitely something separate to what I am. I've only actually interacted with one person whilst in an astral projection state. I have no idea whether I created him or not. It was a random person.
It really depends on the "level or tier" you are on in the Astral. The lower levels you will find mock what is seen here on earth. The good, the bad, the ugly. Once you transcend to a higher level you will find that this subsides. This will happen when you raise your frequency higher and higher and seems to occur in stages of development.
thanks for the info. also would it depend if you grew up in a bad home versus a good home? i have a strong tie to my home as well, i will ap and bam there i am. i have aped in a bad home with lots of negitivity and that was not fun..
For me, AP isn't just about other states of consciousness, but about working through your own subconscious and being. As you progress through consciousness, you're making changes to yourself and discovering your personal truths, and you're bound to come across some nasty stuff in the process. So no, it's not all love and peace, but it leads to it.
Yes, it is all a duality, however, in my understanding of the astral looking at it from this viewpoint is the same as looking at the infrastructure of a large city. Around the outskirts (remember this is all intangible; this is a metaphor) you get the people trying to get into the center, but can't 'afford' it. At the center you get the pure 'telos' which is the city itself. But, in this case, there is no physical constraint. The only thing keeping the 'bad' out is the 'bad' itself. Love is centralization, this 'bad' is decentralization. The 'bad' can always afford it, but must shed it's veil of individuality.
So if you look for it or intend it, you can find bad, but just like my city metaphor, that bad is not an accurate description of what the city is meant to uphold. The bad exists around the outskirts, and can always become good if it just looks for love. This is what the center of the city is upholding. The 'city' in this sense can be related to Tom Campbell's AUM. This is my opinion about PUL.
Cheers,
Contenteo
nice i like the last two answers. that helps alot.
A fee weeks ago I saw a elderly man with bad intentions and a young boy, I f'd him up good, but there was collateral damage.
First time I saw bad, I like my solitude and being with nature.