Jewellery

[MisterJingo]

I'm curious as to others opinions on jewellery and if it can have an adverse or even positive effect on OBE attempts. I've been wondering if placing a foreign mineral (which might also have its own unique energy field) so close to the body (i.e. rings, necklaces) could somehow effect the bodies energy field, and could it effect energy raising or natural energy flows? I've no knowledge or opinion on this area hence this post.

[schotzi]

I personally have no knowledge.

My dad used to be into these types of things and he swore not to wear jewelry. He would even take it off when he would go to psychic or use his Ouija board.

I do know I wear my wedding ring and usually a necklace and have no trouble.

I would like to hear what others say.

[Tom]

I read that citrine helps with astral projection. I'm wearing a pendant of it. The effects being subjective, I won't go into detail, beyond to say that I want to keep it on a while longer.

It seems to be a very individual thing about metals and crystals. IMO, it depends on what you expect / believe / imagine will happen.

[schotzi]

I read that citrine helps with astral projection. I'm wearing a pendant of it. The effects being subjective, I won't go into detail, beyond to say that I want to keep it on a while longer.

It seems to be a very individual thing about metals and crystals. IMO, it depends on what you expect / believe / imagine will happen.

What is citrine? Where do you recommend getting it?

Thanks

[Tom]

Citrine is a type of stone which is related to quartz and amethyst. It has yellow instead of purple. You can get crystals online if nowhere near you sells them. Citrine is a fairly cheap stone. It is often compared with the more expensive topaz for the things it is supposed to do when worn. Both are yellow, so they are commonly associated with the third chakra. Citrine has the additional advantage of not having to have its energy cleaned ever. It has a tendency to transform negative energy to positive energy and it encourages relaxation in a way that helps remove energy blockages in the body.

[schotzi]

Thank you! I will check online.

[MisterJingo]

Thanks for the replies. I usually maintain that personal belief is paramount. But certain projectors (including Robert Monroe) have noticed certain energy forms interact with their energy body, an example being the previously mentioned Monroe being attracted to electrical wiring, and finding it very difficult to move through a grid of electrified wires. I'd assume that if one was OBE and had no trouble moving through physical objects, they would not have an irrational belief of electricity stopping them. Other board members have perceived this problem too. So this means that either electricity somehow interacts with the energy body regardless of personal belief, or that many people have unfounded beliefs of electricity being a barrier The point of this deviation is why I asked the original question, do some substances actually have an effect on our energy bodies irregardless of belief. And as jewellery is worn so close to our physical body, and is usually of a conductive material, could it also have some form of effect for the good or bad.

[Tom]

I bet a lot of people are afraid of electricity, and the idea of large power lines or lightning strikes can affect the emotional body (the astral body) more so than the actual electrical energy involved.

[MisterJingo]

Thats a good suggestion! I wonder how deeply a belief has to be ingrained to have an effect when in the astral. To clarify what I mean: I don't truely believe jewellery has an effect, but will my questioning and the resulting uncertainty of this belief make the jewellery I wear actually effect my OBE attempts?

[Tom]

It has to be deeper than your surface thoughts. It has to get to the point of being an automatic reaction. Of course, doing it on purpose is another matter.

[Gem]

Jewellery doesn't seem to make any difference to my OBE's at all, I have similar experiences whether i'm wearing it or not.

I was facinated to read about the wires and grids and electricity, i've never experienced those things or heard of them.

Gem

[MontanaHayseed]

Edgar Cayce wrote somewhere that Lapis Lazuli (something like that) taped or somehow affixed to the forehead would assist OBE, as I recall, or possibly prophecy... it has been decades since I read the passage.  I have not tried this.  If I do, I will simply wrap in a bandana around my head.

Casteneda speaks of sleeping with quartz crystals between the fingers to facilitate dreaming. (As I recall it was someone in a dream that told him of this method).

There are three things muddy understanding here.

1) The placebo effect: Simply by supposing something, we apparently tend to affect results after the fashion of the expectation.

2) Taking ANY action with the idea of intending a result seems to have the property of effecting results in the direction of the intent.  This is related to theplacebo effect but  that some action is initiated by the individual, as opposed to his being a passive experiencer. (Put three coins beneath your bed to facillitate dreaming.  Or three cans of peas. Or a small bud vas with a rose in in it.  You'll see.)

3) It should be expected that there will be some commonality across populations but that many things will not be universal:  Of 5 billion people, a palladium bracelet may send three people directly to the cosmic astral, not even passing "Go", while causing thirty others to develop a craving for pineapple, and give 250,000 others a mild rash. while the rest of the 5 billions would experience onlya modest diminuation of spending cash.

But, both on the authorities of the above stated remarks (Cayce, Casteneda) and others like then, and on the suggestion of logic itself (it DOES make sense), we might ought to take the suggestion that materials have effects seriously.  It would be great to have a separate board for the topic (The Uses of Materials), as fruitful as it might become. And maybe on such a board we could co-oridnate exploratory efforts.

MH

[Souljah333]

i have a massive lapis ring that i wear always (gift from my father who's a goldsmith). a family friend once had him make her a custom pair of earrings. she was really into the whole "kryon" thing, and lent me all her books to read. i was searching a lot a back then for answers. i had him make me a pair as well (kryon symbol that's on the cover of the books). i wore the earring constantly, but a lot of really weird and negative excrement started happening to me (more so than usual )...i remember one day just ripping the earrings off, binding them up, and tucking them away. i haven't touched them since. it did have an "alleviating" effect...but it could have been in mind.

i wear garnet crosses now, a hematite necklace with a sharks tooth (shark being one of my spirit guides)...and peridot (my birthstone). i also wear a lot of silver & turquoise. native americans believe it protects from lightening.

just my 2 cents.