join along

[vitorrio]

how do i pull a friend out of her body while she sleeps? shes having a hard time doing it on her own.

[vitorrio]

id like to let her know i was there. is there a way to do it besides giving her a description of the surrounding area? i d like to make my presence known to her.

[markulous]

I haven't tried it to anyone.  But in Astral Dynamics, I think I remember Bruce saying that he tried to do that but it didn't work.  And they usually don't remember seeing you while they are OBEing.

[Shzarnie]

I think the reason it doesn't really work is because it's hard to match vibrational frequencies or something similar.  Apparently from what I've read, everybody has their own vibe-frequency and altering that to match another person's is a hard thing to do.  Though I think it may become easier depending on how close you are to a person.

Sometimes, and it happens to me and my friends, you develop a sort of link an do stupid things like call at the same time, finish eachother's sentances and break out into song at the same time, singing the same song.  You could call it a Telepathic link of sorts but at the same time, I've never heard of lifting someone else out though you may have a better chance if you're in the same room when you try.

I've never heard of it happening though.

Shzarnie

[Dagalvyi]

Hard, but not impossible. There have only been three people in the 20 years of AP that have ever been able to join me in flight. The first, my little sister, the other, a man I spent 10 years with. If you wish to have an astral partner more than likely it would have to be with some one you live with. This is only my personal opinion from my experiences. My present husband of 9 years can AP also. But we have only done it together once.  I suggest that if you really want to do this with another person make sure they are with you in the physical to slip into AP together.                                       Good Luck!