How can I help my brother?

[Psypunk]

Sorry to hear about your brother.
I don't think anything on the astral level can help your bro.  Positive affirmation is probably the best way to help him. All pleasure has a price; sometimes that price is jail, or death. Nothing anyone else does will make him quit, it is his decision.  I wouldn't help him out by posting bail or anything like that.  Sometimes the best thing for a person is to receive the punishment they deserve. Just keep loving him as a person, and maybe he will come around.  
 Best of wishes in this matter

[Links Shadow]

The only thing that I can think of is to ask for either doctors, or former alcoholics during projection and ask them for any advise. They may be able to help indirectly, but I can't think of anything that someone can do directly because of freewill. Your brother has to make his own decisions, but he can be directed to the right decision. I am hoping for the best, in that you brother can get over his problem.

[eeb]

Man,
My brother has been an alcoholic (and still is a potential one) and (has been) addicted to heroine. He has been stealing, even from my family. If he 'borrows' money, you know you're not going to get it back.

Some years ago I used to think like you, what can I do for him. Problem is, people make their own decisions, based on their personal experiences, feelings et.al. In my opinion, the only thing you can do is talk.

My theory, based on the experiences with my own brother, is that they don't really have something to care for. There's no any reason good enough for them to change their lifestyle.

My brother now lives with my parents. He's past 30, but is doing fine at the moment. He's even working. But my parents are not going to always be there for him. They're almost 60. Once they're going to die and then he's on his own again.

Now i don't care anymore. I do in some way ofcourse, but he makes his own choices. Now he's doing good, but if he messes up again: bonk him. It's his selfish choice.


Regards,
Ebele

[lyn92]

Well if your parents get a lawyer or public defender instead of jail time make a settlement with the the court system to put him in a Halfway House for Alcholics, 6 months. Here he will have the counseling he needs to recover from this alcholism, he will also have the opportunity to discuss his problems with others like him and also receive the support from his new to be found friends. My friend went through this same ordeal and he is a recovered alcholic because of the support he received while in this Halfway House. He met his wife in Alcholics Anonymous and both straight for over 15 yrs.

Wish the best for you & your family.

[monicat777]

I don't know all the details of your situation but I have A LOT of experience when it comes to this sort of thing.  I just want to tell you that you are not obligated to help him..You do not have to support him..and you are allowed to turn your back on him. These are not ideas that are supported by Alcoholics Anonymous.
He is your brother and I understand this must be hard for you but you owe it to yourself to protect yourself from his selfishness. If he wants to quit drinking, I reccomend the book Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey. It promotes power over alchohol unlike A.A. Forced recovery (i.e. the judge says he must do a.a.) is an infringement on your constitutional rights (as it is a spiritual program ie. involved with religion)and rarely leads to permanent abstinance. Some people need that kind of structure and it does work for some.
The bottom line: He is grown and should take responsibility for his own life, your family should NOT support him in any way unless he makes a committment to get and STAY sober. And even then you should give him no more consideration or support than you would give any other grown and educated person. Sometimes we just have to fight our own battles. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Everytime he puts the bottle to his lips HE makes a choice. So don't take pity on him he NEEDS to learn about consequences.
I'm so sorry that you are going through all this. As the daughter of a dead drunk and myself a recovering alcoholic, I know how exausting and difficult this all must be for you. Sorry to be a bit off-topic guys!!! Don't hesitate to PM me if you need someone to talk to.

[lyn92]

maybe you can post this in the Healing section and send him healing

[AndrewTheSinger]

They released him today because he's primary and jails are crowded, they won't keep people there for 'petty' stuff. Didn't have to pay a bail.

He attended Alcoholics Anonymous in the past months but unfortunately it wasn't much of help.

Ebele, I know what you mean, I think the same, they don't have enough motivation to stop.

I couldn't turn my back on him, but I know he is making his decisions and I don't support him on his actions. We're not 'going through hell' because of him, but it could get worse if we omit ourselves.

All your thoughts and concerns are truly appreciated.

[jason]

I understand what it's like to have family members who are alcoholics.unfortunately,I've found that the individual with the problem has to be the one who really wants to change.nothing else,except love and support will be of much help.it would be nice if their was a way to change ourselves or another individual on a direct level,changing the structure of the energy body (which one?) in order to see positive change on a physical level.I don't know of anyone who can do that though, and I certainly can't.can anyone relate to that idea-like astral majick?

[weagle]

god works in mysterious ways, keep praying for him and like others say show his love and support.  it would be interesting to find out how he got into alcolism in the first place what was it that got him there, there had to be some emotion of some sort maybe he has to deal with first.  what is sad a lot of alcoholics may go to jail and stuff for fights and stuff for 6months or so but during that time they don't drink but because they dwell on thoughts of how it feels to drink when they go out thats the first thing they think of doing and they go and do it (was said in a psychology book).

[AndrewTheSinger]

My brother is an alcoholic, how can I help him through astral projection?

What can I do on the astral level that might help him overcome this problem? Also, how can I approach him to show this different point of view, bring him to a more spiritual life.

My family has been doing alot to help him but he always end up drinking again and getting in trouble. Today he was arrested for street fighting and he aggressed the police officers and bit the doctor who wanted to give him some tranquilizers.
He's 45 years old.